WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.700 --> 00:00:06.180 Rebeccah Goldware: We'll go ahead and do introductions and then 2 00:00:07.589 --> 00:00:20.520 Rebeccah Goldware: Brady, if you have anything to say to the group, we can and then break. I'm going to hand it off to Chris He's got a bunch of stuff to cover. So maybe we can go by college and Norco or we're in a valley. Let's go ahead and alpha order. 3 00:00:23.580 --> 00:00:24.210 Noelle Hansen: Moreno Valley. 4 00:00:25.860 --> 00:00:29.340 Sara Nafzgar: Hi, I'm Sarah NASCAR Communication Studies faculty 5 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.180 Jennifer McDaniel: Jennifer McDaniel a partnership director at rainbow Valley. 6 00:00:34.530 --> 00:00:36.990 Noelle Hansen: New all Hanson web applications technician. 7 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:40.560 We have a student 8 00:00:42.510 --> 00:00:43.770 Rebeccah Goldware: RCC are empty. 9 00:00:47.730 --> 00:00:49.950 Ashley Etchison: Ashley is an Interim Associate Dean ice. 10 00:00:52.050 --> 00:00:55.740 Brady Kerr (he/him): Breaker faculty co chair for this amazing committee. 11 00:00:58.860 --> 00:01:03.300 Ruth Leal: briefly outline multimedia and Marketing Committee co chair or normal college 12 00:01:06.870 --> 00:01:09.390 Rebeccah Goldware: Students from Norco so RCC 13 00:01:12.060 --> 00:01:12.750 Jason Graham: Isn't ground. 14 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:15.450 Jason Graham: Fine Arts. 15 00:01:16.500 --> 00:01:17.370 Jason Graham: Programs like all ago 16 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:24.450 Thea Quigley: Yeah, and the Interim Associate Dean of Faculty at RC. 17 00:01:26.820 --> 00:01:30.900 Chie Ishihara: And GA Ishihara I'm a faculty from business. 18 00:01:33.330 --> 00:01:36.570 Phillisha Kimbles: Alisa kimball's student Psychology major 19 00:01:38.100 --> 00:01:39.870 Rebeccah Goldware: And thank you, district. 20 00:01:43.440 --> 00:01:49.560 Chris Clarke: Although I'm Chris Clark, I'm the executive director of external relations and communications. 21 00:01:52.590 --> 00:01:53.460 M Knight: Mark Knight. 22 00:01:54.630 --> 00:01:57.300 M Knight: Marketing and Creative Services at the district. 23 00:02:00.210 --> 00:02:04.350 Peggy Lomas: And Peggy lameness Public Affairs Officer at the district in RCC 24 00:02:08.580 --> 00:02:12.120 Diana Meza: An amazing Public Affairs Officer for Norco College at our CCD 25 00:02:13.830 --> 00:02:17.370 rschmidt: And Robert Schmid Public Affairs Officer. 26 00:02:18.720 --> 00:02:21.870 Rebeccah Goldware: Awesome. Thank you, a FREE. Do you have anything 27 00:02:23.310 --> 00:02:24.360 Brady Kerr (he/him): Happy holidays. 28 00:02:26.760 --> 00:02:27.420 Chie Ishihara: To all of us. 29 00:02:28.020 --> 00:02:28.260 Rebeccah Goldware: Yeah. 30 00:02:28.410 --> 00:02:31.950 Brady Kerr (he/him): No I don't actually have any specific 31 00:02:32.490 --> 00:02:34.260 Rebeccah Goldware: That's okay. I'm sure we're getting our conversation. 32 00:02:35.340 --> 00:02:46.560 Rebeccah Goldware: This is mainly the Chris show. So he's used to interruptions, because I do it. So if you have questions, comments, go ahead and jump in, but Chris, go ahead and let's get started. Alright. 33 00:02:48.780 --> 00:02:52.410 Chris Clarke: I'm going to share my screen. First thing we're going to go over 34 00:02:53.460 --> 00:03:00.900 Chris Clarke: I know we've seen this now twice. So this will be the third time that we're reviewing the RCC the brand guide. 35 00:03:04.410 --> 00:03:10.650 Chris Clarke: And hopefully when we're done reviewing this right now, we will 36 00:03:11.940 --> 00:03:16.590 Chris Clarke: Be voting to either put push this forward. 37 00:03:17.910 --> 00:03:28.080 Chris Clarke: Or hold it back for further changes, but I'm hoping that we can get this push forward. So we can go through the approval process at the district and 38 00:03:28.440 --> 00:03:31.290 Chris Clarke: Be able to present it to the board in if 39 00:03:32.010 --> 00:03:37.860 Chris Clarke: If all goes well we present to the board in March or April disappointed because it has to go through 40 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:40.650 Chris Clarke: To other committees before it gets there. 41 00:03:43.110 --> 00:03:44.580 Chris Clarke: So if everybody can see 42 00:03:45.780 --> 00:03:47.100 Chris Clarke: This is the brand guide. 43 00:03:51.390 --> 00:03:57.570 Chris Clarke: And with your input. We've updated the brand identity, the brand positioning statement. 44 00:03:59.490 --> 00:04:14.910 Chris Clarke: Most of these I'm assuming that since we went through it last time I won't go through all the detail on it. But if you have questions, just raise your hand or or say stop Chris and we can look at something individually. 45 00:04:18.900 --> 00:04:30.390 Chris Clarke: I'll point out any changes that we've made them so then we go to the primary logos. We have the primary horizontal logos vertical logos. The monogrammed 46 00:04:32.220 --> 00:04:33.270 Chris Clarke: And 47 00:04:35.700 --> 00:04:37.440 Chris Clarke: We have the altar logos. 48 00:04:40.230 --> 00:04:47.700 Chris Clarke: This is with the college names underneath. Then we have the varsity level with the college logos. 49 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:50.610 Chris Clarke: In a vertical or a more vertical 50 00:04:51.660 --> 00:04:53.370 Chris Clarke: With our logos and service their names. 51 00:04:54.570 --> 00:05:00.120 Chris Clarke: And then we have the alternate logo or the postage stamp version that we're not recommending any longer. 52 00:05:02.430 --> 00:05:04.440 Chris Clarke: But it still exists in on 53 00:05:05.580 --> 00:05:16.350 Chris Clarke: Certain publications that we don't necessarily want to change at this point. So that one's there but for new publications, we would recommend that. And we have the CO branded logos. 54 00:05:18.060 --> 00:05:23.820 Chris Clarke: Showing either the monogram with the name of the department or division or the 55 00:05:25.200 --> 00:05:29.430 Chris Clarke: Full RCC logo and then the name of the department alone. 56 00:05:31.170 --> 00:05:40.470 Chris Clarke: We also have some branded logos. These are three examples that giving week the P tech some brand new logos just created. 57 00:05:41.730 --> 00:05:47.010 Chris Clarke: So this one just has the monogram and this one has the full logo and this one is that 58 00:05:49.650 --> 00:05:51.330 Chris Clarke: Those are just examples. 59 00:05:52.530 --> 00:05:52.830 Chris Clarke: Really 60 00:05:53.430 --> 00:05:54.540 Chie Ishihara: Chris, I have a question. 61 00:05:54.990 --> 00:05:55.320 Yes. 62 00:05:56.340 --> 00:06:13.680 Chie Ishihara: Do we know when and what type of logos are preferred to be used. So if it were a written document. But if it's a certain type of written document which ones are more preferred versus if you were to make a banner, which ones more preferred, etc. 63 00:06:15.840 --> 00:06:19.710 Chris Clarke: Yes, we put rules on, for example, the steel. 64 00:06:23.070 --> 00:06:30.510 Chris Clarke: Is only supposed to be preserved for ceremonial purposes commencement official communications from the Chancellor Board of Trustees. 65 00:06:33.780 --> 00:06:36.120 Chris Clarke: So that's the rule on that as a 66 00:06:37.200 --> 00:06:38.190 Chris Clarke: In general, 67 00:06:43.500 --> 00:06:45.720 Chris Clarke: These are the primary logos that should be used. 68 00:06:48.510 --> 00:06:50.400 Chris Clarke: On documents letterhead. 69 00:06:51.420 --> 00:06:52.200 Chris Clarke: Business cards. 70 00:06:55.080 --> 00:07:02.850 Chris Clarke: And remember, in addition to this guide. We're also creating a toolbox and the toolbox will be online and it will have 71 00:07:05.520 --> 00:07:08.400 Chris Clarke: GPS versions in JPEG versions or 72 00:07:09.540 --> 00:07:18.000 Chris Clarke: Whatever versions, we want to use on their of each of the Logos will also have examples of the Google logo is being used for 73 00:07:19.440 --> 00:07:23.640 Chris Clarke: letterhead or business cards for 74 00:07:25.530 --> 00:07:29.250 Chris Clarke: Zoom backgrounds PowerPoint presentations. 75 00:07:31.620 --> 00:07:35.190 Chris Clarke: We have several different iterations that we're working on with 76 00:07:37.170 --> 00:07:37.590 Chris Clarke: Us. 77 00:07:38.010 --> 00:07:45.900 Peggy Lomas: So Chris, are you saying that we get to choose which means we can choose based on whatever we're working on which fits best 78 00:07:47.220 --> 00:07:48.540 Chris Clarke: On these primary Legos. Yes. 79 00:07:50.250 --> 00:07:58.530 Peggy Lomas: Question is, and maybe it's there. So on the primary logos. They don't have the college names. That's an alternate logo. 80 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:09.300 Chris Clarke: If, if you're considered an alternate logo anytime, though, but it's including the college. Is it true or false names. 81 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:22.020 Peggy Lomas: So again, it's up to us to decide whether or not we want to use certain you telling us that the primary is what we should use all the time and on special occasions and guess I'm there. 82 00:08:22.860 --> 00:08:24.150 Chris Clarke: Right now. 83 00:08:24.180 --> 00:08:28.140 Peggy Lomas: I'm just, I guess I'm a little confused. She brought something up that made me think about that. 84 00:08:29.700 --> 00:08:38.520 Peggy Lomas: So this is our number one choice as the primary logos and then only when we need to use the ones with the names. We go to the alternate ones. 85 00:08:42.090 --> 00:08:51.420 Chris Clarke: My understanding, and again, this is a group decision, but my understanding is that if it's a district publication, that's just for the district as a 86 00:08:52.020 --> 00:09:09.840 Chris Clarke: As a district entity, then you would use the primary logo. If you're doing the communication that is from a college or colleges that would also want to include the district older than you could use one of the alternate logos with the colleges 87 00:09:17.370 --> 00:09:18.270 Chris Clarke: That answer your question. 88 00:09:18.870 --> 00:09:20.310 Rebeccah Goldware: I keep saying example. 89 00:09:22.290 --> 00:09:25.800 Peggy Lomas: I'm I know there's. I mean, I would say even just the annual report. 90 00:09:26.310 --> 00:09:33.990 Peggy Lomas: Mm hmm. If you didn't, and the way I look at it. He's saying to us. The primary the annual report would not have the college names on it. 91 00:09:35.160 --> 00:09:43.230 Rebeccah Goldware: It would. It would, because it's it's meant for college engagement and trying to find figure out. We've got a I've got a district pen, but 92 00:09:43.560 --> 00:09:47.550 Peggy Lomas: What would, what would be something that would not have college Association, Rebecca. 93 00:09:47.850 --> 00:09:49.050 Peggy Lomas: I guess would be the opposite. 94 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:53.850 Rebeccah Goldware: Centennial plaza celebration. 95 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:54.600 Sir, 96 00:09:55.980 --> 00:09:56.220 Rebeccah Goldware: Right. 97 00:09:56.910 --> 00:09:58.500 Rebeccah Goldware: Right, like it's 98 00:10:00.420 --> 00:10:13.350 Rebeccah Goldware: To your point, it seems like the word alternate means we won't use it. But the majority of the things that we do our college directed. SO WE'LL LIKELY use what we got nomenclature for alternate logo. 99 00:10:14.370 --> 00:10:31.980 Peggy Lomas: I guess my, my, my suggestion would be those alternate logos would be also included in the primary I guess my concern is that alternate means like secondary only used on special occasions when it sounds to me that can be part of the rotation of the ones that we can select from. 100 00:10:34.290 --> 00:10:35.130 Peggy Lomas: That's just a thought. 101 00:10:35.820 --> 00:10:36.390 Rebeccah Goldware: Anyone else 102 00:10:40.650 --> 00:10:41.040 M Knight: I can 103 00:10:41.700 --> 00:10:42.630 M Knight: Do a couple 104 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:46.380 M Knight: A couple of examples. Peggy would be 105 00:10:47.850 --> 00:11:08.280 M Knight: For social media, if we were putting images from social media. There are times where, because of size and or be just because of the the content just the, the district name without the college names is more appropriate just visually and also for whatever it's being communicated 106 00:11:09.300 --> 00:11:11.010 M Knight: Also, when we're doing 107 00:11:12.270 --> 00:11:23.670 M Knight: A either a publication or something that already has all three college logos, it would it would be most appropriate to not have the district logo with the college names under it. 108 00:11:24.390 --> 00:11:30.690 M Knight: Those are some examples of what we consider you know primary the use of those what we're considering primary logos. 109 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:39.870 Noelle Hansen: Would it be more clear if not only were there context for where the logos that include the colleges were appropriate so in 110 00:11:41.130 --> 00:11:48.540 Noelle Hansen: publications that involve college like statistics from the colleges or for for those audiences or referencing the college's 111 00:11:49.020 --> 00:12:01.920 Noelle Hansen: Those alternate logos could be used and then separating out the bench logo in particular because that may be adding some confusion that saying, Okay, well, this is something we don't recommend, but it's putting the same grouping. 112 00:12:05.040 --> 00:12:15.570 Noelle Hansen: So maybe say outdated logo or logos that aren't recommended or you know as needed. So it's something that takes it out of that group, so they know that the alternate logos aren't 113 00:12:16.620 --> 00:12:18.810 Noelle Hansen: Aren't with that, you know, not recommended. 114 00:12:24.300 --> 00:12:31.950 Brady Kerr (he/him): I don't understand why we have a benched logo there in the first place. If you're not supposed to use it shouldn't use it. Get rid of it. 115 00:12:32.880 --> 00:12:35.460 Jason Graham: His grandfather. So things that have already 116 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:38.430 Jason Graham: Incorporated, that can be 117 00:12:42.150 --> 00:12:47.730 Ruth Leal: Maybe could be cross it out then. And so that it's clear that it's not to be used anymore just kind of like cross out 118 00:12:50.190 --> 00:13:03.660 M Knight: It's not, it's not meant to be removed or not used. It's just one that we're we're recommending using other versions that was it's more of a historic one that we're not we're not at the point where 119 00:13:04.170 --> 00:13:11.370 M Knight: It, it can't be used any further. It's just that it, it's still in circulation. It's still available. 120 00:13:11.850 --> 00:13:15.390 M Knight: It's just one that we don't recommend at this time. 121 00:13:15.930 --> 00:13:18.240 Ruth Leal: So you're trying to phase it out and say, oh, 122 00:13:18.930 --> 00:13:20.370 Rebeccah Goldware: It's not being printed anymore. 123 00:13:22.170 --> 00:13:23.430 Brady Kerr (he/him): That makes sense, then, okay. 124 00:13:23.460 --> 00:13:26.850 Ruth Leal: I think that that I understand better now. 125 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:27.630 Brady Kerr (he/him): We 126 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:39.660 Peggy Lomas: Are CCS and we use the term non conforming identity marks and so maybe that could be something that's non conforming that's not necessarily not recommended but doesn't conform to our standards. 127 00:13:44.190 --> 00:13:47.730 Brady Kerr (he/him): I, I would recommend taking out the word alternate 128 00:13:49.170 --> 00:14:00.840 Brady Kerr (he/him): And just maybe replacing that with previously used or something that let you know that it's grandfathered in, like you said, Jason, but it's it's not part of the gig anymore. 129 00:14:03.510 --> 00:14:12.390 Jason Graham: Owners using older alternate for all the district college heading. So it seems like it's a nomenclature problem. 130 00:14:13.110 --> 00:14:26.670 Rebeccah Goldware: Why don't we create alternate low base to college like joint college that they change the word because we still need to utilize all of this. Yes. Yeah. So it seems like the header is our problem. 131 00:14:27.270 --> 00:14:29.460 Jason Graham: District global, local school 132 00:14:31.050 --> 00:14:33.660 Jason Graham: District logos or something from college logos. 133 00:14:36.630 --> 00:14:49.050 Ruth Leal: Just be the primary logos with college logos primary logo with college logos colleges or something, just simple that says this is the primary logo, but it includes the the colleges 134 00:14:53.130 --> 00:14:53.940 Chie Ishihara: Oh, sorry for the 135 00:14:53.970 --> 00:14:54.420 Four. 136 00:14:57.330 --> 00:14:57.750 Rebeccah Goldware: Criteria. 137 00:14:58.260 --> 00:15:01.830 Chie Ishihara: Oh, so for the locals with the colleges 138 00:15:02.910 --> 00:15:14.700 Chie Ishihara: Which one should we emphasize more and if all the colleges are right now working on their own branding and they're working hard to get there, the logos. 139 00:15:15.750 --> 00:15:37.080 Chie Ishihara: Disseminated isn't it better if I have a choice. I would always use the one with their logos, instead of just the name. So with that, with that individually with those individual colleges goals. How do we know when to use the one with the logo and then and just the names, print it out. 140 00:15:37.680 --> 00:15:55.320 Brady Kerr (he/him): For me it comes down to a taste thing where there's so many different colors, right, we've got the orange the aqua the maroon they don't look good together. Yes, we're together, but they don't look good on everything. And so it would make sense to just use the wording. 141 00:15:55.680 --> 00:15:58.410 Brady Kerr (he/him): For the color story of whatever you're producing 142 00:16:00.780 --> 00:16:06.420 Chie Ishihara: Do we have even a choice for the treatment of these colored 143 00:16:07.650 --> 00:16:19.590 Chie Ishihara: Individual school logos to be either black and white or blue to adhere to the RCC D blue so that you know a little bit more together. 144 00:16:19.890 --> 00:16:23.040 Rebeccah Goldware: Know the colleges have colors, long before we existed as a district. 145 00:16:25.650 --> 00:16:29.460 Rebeccah Goldware: Like that, that, that ship has sailed and 146 00:16:30.690 --> 00:16:40.980 Rebeccah Goldware: So getting any level of coordination amongst the three in terms of how the colors interact together. Yeah, that's, I will tell you, structurally I 147 00:16:41.700 --> 00:16:57.660 Rebeccah Goldware: Chris mark and the team us what fits what looks good to British point in terms of taste and we do use the what I would call the 44 names and regularly with the logos in there. Um, 148 00:17:01.410 --> 00:17:03.870 Rebeccah Goldware: But, you know, that also doesn't put well on a 149 00:17:05.550 --> 00:17:06.510 Rebeccah Goldware: On a tablecloth. 150 00:17:08.220 --> 00:17:08.610 Rebeccah Goldware: Right. 151 00:17:08.730 --> 00:17:09.210 So, 152 00:17:10.380 --> 00:17:13.650 Jennifer McDaniel: Rebecca, all of them do have the white approved, though. Correct. 153 00:17:15.270 --> 00:17:17.310 Jennifer McDaniel: So I don't know if we did white 154 00:17:20.760 --> 00:17:24.480 Rebeccah Goldware: Well, all, all of these technically none of these are approved. 155 00:17:25.530 --> 00:17:41.310 Rebeccah Goldware: So that's part of the structure that we're going through. I know many structures have gone through the colleges, but we're just part of this is going all the way through, so that we have something at the board level that's been validated and but all of these are what have been used. 156 00:17:42.390 --> 00:17:49.140 Rebeccah Goldware: And mark or any other peers can correct me. But all of these are pre me they're easily four or five years old. 157 00:17:51.150 --> 00:17:52.740 Rebeccah Goldware: Is there anything that's newer than that. 158 00:17:53.790 --> 00:18:00.210 Jennifer McDaniel: Well, and even at that the their colleges are rebranding the websites, but their logos are still virtually staying the same. 159 00:18:00.570 --> 00:18:00.900 Correct. 160 00:18:02.490 --> 00:18:19.350 Chie Ishihara: I just thought it would be a waste. Since each of the schools are really putting forth their branding to not eat. Take advantage of their effort and you know show their, their logos in as many occasions as possible because even as I'm. Oh, sorry. So even if it no 161 00:18:21.570 --> 00:18:22.920 Rebeccah Goldware: I think structurally we do 162 00:18:24.450 --> 00:18:24.930 Chris Clarke: Well, and my 163 00:18:25.770 --> 00:18:37.770 Chris Clarke: Colleges. One thing to remember is when we do a often when we do a district publication, like the annual report will show the district logo, but will also show each of the three college 164 00:18:38.430 --> 00:18:44.040 Chris Clarke: Separately, right. So they might go down the side or they might be in different places throughout the book. 165 00:18:46.530 --> 00:18:53.100 Chris Clarke: Just depending on the on the item. You might also just put the district logo in the bottom corner but have the 166 00:18:54.540 --> 00:18:56.520 Chris Clarke: The flyer, whatever it is, the 167 00:18:58.710 --> 00:19:07.530 Chris Clarke: With the with the college logo at the top center right see that top center the college logo and then you'd have the bottom just the district level. 168 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:15.630 Chris Clarke: If you're doing a college brochure or something, you don't necessarily want all the other colleges listed, but you would want the district so 169 00:19:16.770 --> 00:19:23.190 Chris Clarke: I think they each have their purposes and the designers have been very since we have a long established 170 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.150 Chris Clarke: Usage with us. I think we're 171 00:19:28.950 --> 00:19:38.760 Chris Clarke: Not trying to recreate something I would agree with instead of calling it alternate logo with the populace page. We can call it primary levels, including colleges 172 00:19:40.050 --> 00:19:48.570 Chris Clarke: And then we already have the RCC logo with college logos and then the order logo vertical, we can say a previous leave us 173 00:19:49.620 --> 00:19:53.370 Chris Clarke: Previous they use logo and then benchmark recommended 174 00:19:53.970 --> 00:19:56.490 Brady Kerr (he/him): That's what I was suggesting just previously used 175 00:19:58.230 --> 00:20:00.720 Chris Clarke: So we can make those two changes, and I don't think 176 00:20:02.070 --> 00:20:08.550 Chris Clarke: Those two things is a pretty easy to make and it doesn't work, our efforts to get this approved. 177 00:20:09.570 --> 00:20:10.860 Chris Clarke: We have those two changes. 178 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:24.600 Noelle Hansen: I think the only recommendation I would make would be for the RCC logo with college logos is to include a black version fullback all of the colleges have a full black logo that is approved to us so 179 00:20:25.140 --> 00:20:33.600 Noelle Hansen: You know having a full block version and not just white on a dark background would probably be an alternative if people want to feature all three logos. 180 00:20:34.560 --> 00:20:36.330 Brady Kerr (he/him): I agree with that. Noel. Yes. 181 00:20:39.210 --> 00:20:39.570 Chris Clarke: Okay. 182 00:20:42.030 --> 00:20:42.630 Chris Clarke: We can add that 183 00:20:46.770 --> 00:20:48.150 Noelle Hansen: Will make the colors less scary. 184 00:20:50.010 --> 00:20:52.650 Rebeccah Goldware: It does. It'll. It'll look really good on the table cloth, you 185 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:56.460 Ruth Leal: Are you wondering table cloth. See, Rebecca. 186 00:20:58.620 --> 00:21:02.190 Rebeccah Goldware: No, no, but it does seem to be a topic of conversation so 187 00:21:05.550 --> 00:21:05.910 Chris Clarke: All right. 188 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.240 Chris Clarke: He's the co branded logo is that whether it was there any more discussion on these 189 00:21:16.170 --> 00:21:17.460 Chris Clarke: Are the sub branded logos. 190 00:21:20.010 --> 00:21:25.170 rschmidt: I have, I have one question. When did RCC de get a given week 191 00:21:30.090 --> 00:21:32.520 rschmidt: We haven't had district hasn't had a given week 192 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:39.090 Chris Clarke: The foundation is to create that at the same time, we created the ones for each college 193 00:21:40.500 --> 00:21:45.210 Chris Clarke: Oh, can't really don't know if they ever used it so 194 00:21:46.260 --> 00:21:47.850 Chris Clarke: These are just examples. 195 00:21:50.910 --> 00:21:56.220 rschmidt: I'm not sure it's a good example. When you haven't actually held such an event. 196 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:03.060 rschmidt: When it make more sense to put the college given week logos. 197 00:22:05.310 --> 00:22:07.590 Rebeccah Goldware: And you'd have to have three this way. There's one. 198 00:22:08.340 --> 00:22:10.290 Rebeccah Goldware: Colleges are all listed underneath giving week 199 00:22:11.970 --> 00:22:14.400 rschmidt: That's not the logo. We used for giving weeks. 200 00:22:14.790 --> 00:22:22.230 Rebeccah Goldware: I know, because all the colleges had their own Atlanta could use this logo by us just putting the foundation name instead of our CCD 201 00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:30.180 Rebeccah Goldware: And I think she did use it. Chris, I feel like want to use day a joint 202 00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:33.780 Rebeccah Goldware: Maybe she didn't maybe show me send them out. 203 00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:39.120 Chris Clarke: I'm not aware of or using that it was just one of the ones that she asked the sport. 204 00:22:40.470 --> 00:22:40.890 Chris Clarke: And 205 00:22:42.780 --> 00:22:48.960 Chris Clarke: We can take that one out. If it's not a good example of how you would co brand and sub brand and logo. I don't know that it's 206 00:22:50.670 --> 00:22:57.780 Chris Clarke: Doesn't bother me that it hasn't been used. It's just an example of how you would do a sub branded logo. 207 00:22:59.670 --> 00:23:11.220 Brady Kerr (he/him): One small suggestion that I would have would be that bottom on it's all black. Are we trying to represent that you could do all black to or should that also be the blue and gold. 208 00:23:14.040 --> 00:23:15.300 Chris Clarke: It can, it can be all black. 209 00:23:16.470 --> 00:23:20.430 Brady Kerr (he/him): And so that's that's an example of that, for instance, okay. 210 00:23:27.510 --> 00:23:39.420 Brady Kerr (he/him): I guess another option here it and we might be beating a dead horse, but you could also do the white with the blue background, just to show the alternate version as well. 211 00:23:42.840 --> 00:23:46.650 Brady Kerr (he/him): But I don't think we're going to please everybody all the time anyway. 212 00:23:55.350 --> 00:23:57.750 Jason Graham: What I was some branding because 213 00:23:58.770 --> 00:24:08.040 Jason Graham: You're just sticking RCC on somebody else's mobile. Correct. So, forcing them into something, you know, by creating the white or blue 214 00:24:09.600 --> 00:24:15.330 That's more specifically the district logo and not to the real brand. Does that make sense. 215 00:24:16.830 --> 00:24:18.750 Brady Kerr (he/him): This is for the district, though. 216 00:24:24.690 --> 00:24:28.920 Noelle Hansen: Maybe know that color black and white version will be available. 217 00:24:29.760 --> 00:24:29.970 Not 218 00:24:32.580 --> 00:24:34.290 Brady Kerr (he/him): Like maybe just a disclaimer. 219 00:24:38.280 --> 00:24:38.520 Okay. 220 00:24:43.620 --> 00:24:46.320 Chris Clarke: So we'll either add a white version, or will add 221 00:24:47.550 --> 00:24:50.340 Chris Clarke: verbiage that says black or white. 222 00:24:51.240 --> 00:25:12.960 M Knight: Well, in one one note, you want to make on these are one offs. So they may not necessarily require a white version or or any alternate this this. These are typically ones that are done for a specific purpose or a specific event or in P tak a 223 00:25:15.360 --> 00:25:18.510 M Knight: Component of something that is tied to the district. 224 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:24.810 Brady Kerr (he/him): Are you saying then that potentially the way they designed it, they already know what background, they're going to use 225 00:25:25.470 --> 00:25:31.410 M Knight: That that's possible, yes it there, it, it's possible that different variations could be 226 00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:49.590 M Knight: Created but not that may not be the norm, it may just be every since every single one is going to be kind of unique and specific it I think just leaving it up to the the design team as to how to implement it is probably the best approach. 227 00:25:50.280 --> 00:25:58.770 Noelle Hansen: Though it is simple rephrasing of, you know, as long as the integrity of our CD logo, maybe padding and colors would be fine. 228 00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:05.100 Chris Clarke: And it's colors. 229 00:26:05.610 --> 00:26:06.810 Noelle Hansen: And approved color palette. 230 00:26:09.840 --> 00:26:11.490 Rebeccah Goldware: Say no outside. Say it again. 231 00:26:12.060 --> 00:26:24.180 Noelle Hansen: And so that that statement says, you know, the RCC primary logo or monogram may be used as a sub branded component of another logo as long as the integrity of the RCD logo. 232 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:37.500 Noelle Hansen: Is always maintained. So maybe just have our CCD logo and approved color palette so they can do you know whatever treatment they want as long as it falls within the guidelines, how that logo can be used. And that's a lot more open ended. 233 00:26:40.470 --> 00:26:41.340 Chris Clarke: Yeah, I like that. 234 00:26:41.820 --> 00:26:42.480 Brady Kerr (he/him): I like that to 235 00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:44.280 Chie Ishihara: Do we have any of those 236 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.420 Chie Ishihara: The like the Pantone number somewhere on here. 237 00:26:48.810 --> 00:26:49.920 Chris Clarke: Yes. Oh. 238 00:26:51.840 --> 00:26:57.660 Rebeccah Goldware: I mean, is that all of the colleges will have their version of this and they have a break down even further. 239 00:27:01.770 --> 00:27:12.960 Chris Clarke: Okay, so we're going to add in the language that Noel suggested and approve color palette there after the logo in that paragraph under some branded logos. 240 00:27:15.030 --> 00:27:16.380 Chris Clarke: And we have the official feel 241 00:27:32.370 --> 00:27:33.210 Chris Clarke: The color palette. 242 00:27:34.860 --> 00:27:36.030 Chris Clarke: And it's supporting towards 243 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:43.500 Chris Clarke: This was changed from the first version that we had. We had a lot more 244 00:27:44.610 --> 00:27:46.020 Chris Clarke: We showed every single color. 245 00:27:49.620 --> 00:27:52.680 Rebeccah Goldware: Chris I'm saying it's because I can't see things, um, 246 00:27:54.990 --> 00:27:57.360 Rebeccah Goldware: Do we reference the colleges 247 00:27:58.980 --> 00:28:05.460 Rebeccah Goldware: And guide in here or their colors, and if not, what are the thoughts on us. 248 00:28:06.510 --> 00:28:11.100 Rebeccah Goldware: Referencing them here and I'm thinking specifically the colors, maybe not. Some of the other things but 249 00:28:12.210 --> 00:28:13.020 Rebeccah Goldware: What was the group thing. 250 00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:14.580 Chie Ishihara: I like that idea. 251 00:28:15.690 --> 00:28:30.570 Brady Kerr (he/him): I feel like the district is an umbrella that stands on its own, personally, and then the college is have their own individual branding. This is his district period. 252 00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:45.480 Rebeccah Goldware: So I agree with you, my, my thought here is I don't have linkages to any of the other color. So that's the only reason I hesitated. I don't have the Burgundy's I don't have the fans the turquoise, I don't have any of those 253 00:28:46.830 --> 00:28:47.280 Brady Kerr (he/him): Because 254 00:28:48.030 --> 00:28:48.990 Rebeccah Goldware: There's so much history. 255 00:28:49.110 --> 00:28:50.250 Brady Kerr (he/him): Level. Right. 256 00:28:51.630 --> 00:28:52.680 Brady Kerr (he/him): They shouldn't be used on the 257 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:52.980 Rebeccah Goldware: Day. 258 00:28:53.310 --> 00:28:55.800 Brady Kerr (he/him): We co brand. So maybe it's 259 00:28:55.950 --> 00:28:58.590 Brady Kerr (he/him): Just maybe it's just those key. 260 00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:02.490 Brady Kerr (he/him): three colors. The, the burgundy the Aqua. 261 00:29:03.090 --> 00:29:04.560 Brady Kerr (he/him): And the orange. 262 00:29:04.830 --> 00:29:10.920 Brady Kerr (he/him): And it's just here's access to. If you're incorporating that color years college specific 263 00:29:12.060 --> 00:29:19.320 Brady Kerr (he/him): Because then with Norco College, for instance, we've got 20 ish approved colors right Ruth. 264 00:29:20.100 --> 00:29:30.750 Rebeccah Goldware: So structurally and I want to make sure that because this document is going to be a use to the people who work in and around it. So the 265 00:29:31.410 --> 00:29:47.700 Rebeccah Goldware: Marks team. And frankly, some of the folks that design things at the colleges so if centrally graphic, I guess, what if what if Norco changes something or NBC changes something but doesn't take it all the way up. 266 00:29:49.740 --> 00:29:57.420 Ruth Leal: Thinking, Rebecca. What you may be able to do just kind of like what you did with Noel suggestion before maybe in this area, you can reference 267 00:29:58.320 --> 00:30:07.050 Ruth Leal: To to look at the other all three colleges style guides for their color palettes and so maybe it's just something like that because you don't want to start putting in 268 00:30:07.470 --> 00:30:15.990 Ruth Leal: Our color palettes, because then that impacts your, your guide is you're right right changes. It changes, but you can reference that that's where they can go to get that 269 00:30:16.290 --> 00:30:17.940 Brady Kerr (he/him): I wouldn't do hyperlinks. 270 00:30:19.980 --> 00:30:20.670 M Knight: Reference it 271 00:30:21.930 --> 00:30:23.580 M Knight: Like, I agree with Ruth. 272 00:30:25.650 --> 00:30:33.780 M Knight: If if Moreno Valley wants to change their color and they go through that process. I don't want to have to change this document. 273 00:30:34.050 --> 00:30:38.010 M Knight: If all we're just saying is, please reference the college's 274 00:30:39.150 --> 00:30:42.360 M Knight: Approved brand guide for for official colors. 275 00:30:42.840 --> 00:30:44.310 Ruth Leal: And he can perfect statement. 276 00:30:45.030 --> 00:30:48.210 Jason Graham: And I thought we had agreed on something like that, at the last meeting, maybe not. 277 00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:58.350 Jason Graham: I saw somewhere, towards the end of the document to reference the individual colleges documents for for additional graphical colors. 278 00:30:59.790 --> 00:31:00.750 Rebeccah Goldware: Maybe Chris 279 00:31:02.310 --> 00:31:17.340 Rebeccah Goldware: If not, let's make sure it finds its space, either in the narrative and and then a couple of places like in on this page so that when all of us aren't here somebody else can still pick us up and go, oh, there's like a whole other set of colors we should be looking at to 280 00:31:18.180 --> 00:31:25.740 Chris Clarke: That I think we can put a sentence at the bottom. This is called college specific colors can be found in these poses brand guide. 281 00:31:27.930 --> 00:31:31.530 Rebeccah Goldware: It'd be great if we can have them linked like Brady suggested, because then it's 282 00:31:32.550 --> 00:31:38.400 Rebeccah Goldware: It's easy to find. But at the very least, in general thought, is this going to be will those be part of the toolkit or no. 283 00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:40.050 M Knight: Yes, say, well, 284 00:31:40.770 --> 00:31:41.250 Rebeccah Goldware: Thank you, Mark. 285 00:31:46.740 --> 00:31:48.090 Chris Clarke: Enough to put in that sentence. 286 00:31:50.220 --> 00:31:53.040 Brady Kerr (he/him): Well, it's not just the sentence. It's the hyperlinks. 287 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.850 Ruth Leal: Eventually the hyperlinks right because they're not already yet so you know 288 00:32:00.600 --> 00:32:03.060 M Knight: I'm. Can we can we get the college is not to change them. 289 00:32:04.740 --> 00:32:05.880 Brady Kerr (he/him): That's my thought. Yeah. 290 00:32:06.300 --> 00:32:18.240 Ruth Leal: I think you can have a hyperlink on a page that knows that that's the location where if the college for to update it. I think that should be agreed upon that that would be where we would place any updated versions. But we wouldn't 291 00:32:19.740 --> 00:32:22.350 Ruth Leal: So that you wouldn't have a broken hyperlink know 292 00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:31.020 M Knight: Maybe just went through that process and every, every single URL changed when they, when they updated their sites. 293 00:32:33.810 --> 00:32:40.950 Ruth Leal: Maybe they're not in the document Brady and I know I hate to say that, but maybe we just need to reference the page where you can district strategic community. 294 00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:46.710 Ruth Leal: Communication page and then maybe that's the page where the hyperlinks are located. 295 00:32:47.040 --> 00:32:50.340 Rebeccah Goldware: It's gonna be fine, because we're going to look at this document once a year. Okay. 296 00:32:51.390 --> 00:32:52.500 Ruth Leal: Whatever works for you guys. 297 00:32:52.830 --> 00:32:55.170 Rebeccah Goldware: Well, we'll, we'll figure it out. Okay. 298 00:32:55.710 --> 00:32:56.940 Chris Clarke: We do want to add the hyper 299 00:32:58.020 --> 00:32:58.410 Rebeccah Goldware: Yeah. 300 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:00.510 Okay. 301 00:33:01.560 --> 00:33:09.120 Rebeccah Goldware: Is at the end of the day, we're probably gonna. This is probably going to live on us on a page on the website and that page can also have the hyperlinks. 302 00:33:12.750 --> 00:33:13.740 Chris Clarke: Typography 303 00:33:18.810 --> 00:33:32.160 Brady Kerr (he/him): Question about this Chris the text for presenting each of the thoughts, is that the color at 80% as opposed to 100% and, if so, is that on purpose. 304 00:33:39.660 --> 00:33:49.530 M Knight: I, I honestly i can't i i don't have that document in front of me. So I don't know, I believe it was at 100% but it could just be 305 00:33:50.520 --> 00:33:58.350 Brady Kerr (he/him): It's, it's totally not a big deal. I'm just looking at it now. I'm like, wait, that's not the RCC the color that you know like this is an alternate 306 00:33:58.380 --> 00:34:00.300 M Knight: Oh, you mean the blue. Are you talking about the blue. 307 00:34:00.420 --> 00:34:05.520 M Knight: The blue. That is the one of the alternate colors if if you go back up. 308 00:34:06.060 --> 00:34:09.270 Brady Kerr (he/him): It's 80% and that's on purpose is all I was asking. 309 00:34:09.540 --> 00:34:13.710 M Knight: No, it's the I believe it's the sky color, it's not 310 00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:15.420 Brady Kerr (he/him): Oh I see, I see. 311 00:34:15.660 --> 00:34:20.310 M Knight: It, it's one of the supporting colors that we've identified in the previous page. Gotcha. 312 00:34:26.550 --> 00:34:27.030 Chris Clarke: The only 313 00:34:28.770 --> 00:34:35.250 Chris Clarke: Disclaimer. I would say the funds on on this page or recommended doesn't mean that those are the only ones who can use 314 00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:40.410 Brady Kerr (he/him): So what does that do to your people that are less tasteful 315 00:34:44.430 --> 00:35:00.720 Rebeccah Goldware: It is going to do nothing in the college's specifically tell people on their signature blocks. How many fonts and colors to put in their documents but on documents that go out and that are reviewed by humans before they are sent out to the populace, then 316 00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:03.120 Rebeccah Goldware: We would have to 317 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.120 Rebeccah Goldware: We need to think about how many fonts go into a document and 318 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:11.340 Rebeccah Goldware: That has 319 00:35:11.430 --> 00:35:12.090 Brady Kerr (he/him): Not nice. 320 00:35:12.750 --> 00:35:25.140 Rebeccah Goldware: Yeah, that's not addressed here and I'll be I'll be frank, there are some people who send out emails and their signature block has like four or five different fonts and four or five different colors and while it's pretty 321 00:35:27.450 --> 00:35:33.240 Rebeccah Goldware: It's a, it's pretty distracting and we need to be thoughtful about the communications that we send out 322 00:35:34.470 --> 00:35:44.040 Rebeccah Goldware: So that's, that's really where this comes every for me comes from. And I don't know how to limit people other than we could do it through the production side. Once this is 323 00:35:44.580 --> 00:35:57.360 Rebeccah Goldware: Approved and say no, your fire can't have 15 fonts and colors on it. And no, you can't use the Simpsons, because we don't have rights to use that and right we can lay out some of those things. 324 00:35:59.730 --> 00:36:06.240 Rebeccah Goldware: But other. I don't know how there's there's no enforcement mechanism, unless you all know of something that I don't know. 325 00:36:10.020 --> 00:36:11.160 Chris Clarke: Well, plus you have the 326 00:36:13.500 --> 00:36:18.150 Chris Clarke: I mean, we only have one sin, we only have one Sarah font shown your take on 327 00:36:19.290 --> 00:36:24.720 Chris Clarke: And so that when Sarah phone doesn't match. That's what we're doing. 328 00:36:27.090 --> 00:36:31.890 Rebeccah Goldware: I think we're more concerned with the other thousand or so and individuals that 329 00:36:32.970 --> 00:36:38.460 Rebeccah Goldware: erupting have a.at RCC d.edu or something. Their 330 00:36:39.570 --> 00:36:40.170 Rebeccah Goldware: Address. 331 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:41.250 And they 332 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.480 Noelle Hansen: Just have a recommendation for we recommend that you have 333 00:36:45.510 --> 00:36:50.730 Noelle Hansen: One headline font and one you know body font for the both of you. 334 00:36:51.330 --> 00:36:57.960 Rebeccah Goldware: Know, specifically, there's a right there faculty that send out things via the all list serves 335 00:36:58.050 --> 00:36:58.260 Noelle Hansen: On 336 00:36:58.560 --> 00:36:59.310 Noelle Hansen: So excited 337 00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:05.580 Rebeccah Goldware: I'm so excited to get to that conversation and. But how, how would 338 00:37:06.690 --> 00:37:18.780 Rebeccah Goldware: Through the colleges. I mean, thinking about where you and really from the PA O set. How would you, how could we brace you to say hey staff person X faculty person why 339 00:37:19.830 --> 00:37:21.420 Rebeccah Goldware: Can you update your signature block. 340 00:37:21.810 --> 00:37:23.820 Noelle Hansen: I mean, just having a document that we can 341 00:37:24.060 --> 00:37:39.600 Noelle Hansen: You know what to eat to serves that purpose. So if I get flyers and and I know that Robert hasn't reviewed them. I'm like, well, this does not fit district writing style, you need to go have it reviewed, because I'm not sending this out, it's frankly not not okay. 342 00:37:41.040 --> 00:37:43.710 Ruth Leal: Having guidelines is is good because I think 343 00:37:44.940 --> 00:37:55.140 Ruth Leal: It's one thing for items that we're creating and I think you're right, Rebecca, if somebody's sending something to the print shop, they're looking at it and they're going to correct a lot of that anyway. 344 00:37:55.590 --> 00:38:05.220 Ruth Leal: So that's not really where you're you're needing to have something like that. But, you know, so if it's something that's outside of that, but those of us that are designing we already know. 345 00:38:06.210 --> 00:38:18.840 Ruth Leal: So we're going to follow the guidelines, which I think are are good to have there and. But when you start venturing into the other side of the house. I think if we that that's that can be a little touch here and and telling people 346 00:38:20.190 --> 00:38:31.680 Ruth Leal: Their signature. I think everything has to be maybe more of here's guidelines and showing how and then educating and then trying to, you know, share. Oh, here's our here's our 347 00:38:32.100 --> 00:38:40.050 Ruth Leal: The style guide and here's, you know, this is what we recommend. It helped me a lot of people are willing to, oh, I didn't know that. Or, thank you for helping and so 348 00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:51.060 Ruth Leal: I like to do it more as opposed to not punishment but you know the positive reinforcement of how we can encourage people to follow the guidelines without 349 00:38:52.560 --> 00:39:00.840 Ruth Leal: Acting like we're gonna they're going to get a demerit. It's like, I think it, you know, the more that we we provide the information help educate i think is helpful. 350 00:39:01.380 --> 00:39:02.610 Ruth Leal: I agree with you. I think 351 00:39:02.730 --> 00:39:03.630 Ruth Leal: I'm can do that. 352 00:39:04.170 --> 00:39:18.960 Brady Kerr (he/him): I have an issue, I go back and forth because my brain works more clean but I don't want to take individuality away, either. So there is a struggle there was like this is how I choose to express myself. 353 00:39:19.590 --> 00:39:28.470 Brady Kerr (he/him): And we don't we don't want to take that away, necessarily. So I think the idea that you're saying, Ruth with here's what we'd love for you to do if you could 354 00:39:29.580 --> 00:39:32.190 Brady Kerr (he/him): But we understand that you are an individual 355 00:39:32.790 --> 00:39:41.880 Jason Graham: Well how craziness make things like templates available not everybody's creating that it really is a graphic designer know some people are sitting down, creating documents and such. 356 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:51.870 Jason Graham: They're just doing whatever. But if we made templates available to have things kind of sort of laid out any signature template for people to download 357 00:39:52.290 --> 00:39:52.470 Jason Graham: That 358 00:39:52.770 --> 00:39:54.480 Brady Kerr (he/him): We're doing Norco yeah 359 00:39:54.630 --> 00:40:06.630 Ruth Leal: That's what we're doing. And I think that's probably Jason, the best way because you're right. Those that don't have the ability to create that probably helps them the most. I don't think people mean to squeeze logos and things like that. They just don't know how to do it. 360 00:40:07.140 --> 00:40:19.590 Ruth Leal: And if you provide them templates. I think that makes it the easiest way possible. But there are a lot of people they they recognize that they aren't creative and then they just put a 361 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:28.770 Ruth Leal: Ticket into production printing to say here. Can you create this for me. And I think a lot of people do take advantage of Creative Services to say help 362 00:40:29.820 --> 00:40:34.290 Ruth Leal: So, you know, again, I think guidelines encouragement and then templates would be great. 363 00:40:34.890 --> 00:40:46.470 Rebeccah Goldware: I think that's, in theory, what the toolkit is meaning to provide. So I do want to let Chris get back to this because I do want to go through these other topics but I'm 364 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:53.430 Rebeccah Goldware: The. One of the things that I'd like this group to think about specifically at your colleges is 365 00:40:54.630 --> 00:41:06.510 Rebeccah Goldware: On this topic as things are getting created. Is there a process in which things go through and get approved or does it just land on Noel's desk and it says, Put this on social media. 366 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:16.080 Rebeccah Goldware: Because that's part of where the structure of flyers like I get signature blocks, people can do their own. I like to change my 367 00:41:16.890 --> 00:41:30.690 Rebeccah Goldware: Quote, everyone smile because do people notice and right but these other things that are coming through the suppliers that are coming through and I anticipate as we come back in person that will increase, but even digital fires. 368 00:41:32.610 --> 00:41:39.060 Rebeccah Goldware: They're not necessarily being produced in one single place, which means people are creating them without structure without 369 00:41:39.600 --> 00:41:50.010 Rebeccah Goldware: An approval mechanism for lack of a better phrase, does it go through a department is is it structurally set up that way and and that's not something for the district to 370 00:41:51.030 --> 00:42:04.650 Rebeccah Goldware: You know, implement at the college is not something for the college's to decide. Yes, it's important we want to do this, the district could say you should, because it's a good idea to have a group of knowledgeable people review things 371 00:42:06.150 --> 00:42:16.890 Rebeccah Goldware: But that's something that collectively as and I say that because I I'm finally cleaning out things that I just brought home from March and and 372 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:23.550 Rebeccah Goldware: I never got a chance to dig into it, but on January 29 there was a rebel message from 373 00:42:24.270 --> 00:42:42.060 Rebeccah Goldware: Public health, Renee. And then on the 28th. There was another one. And on the 29th from NBC from envy all went out and then a different one came out from Sue turkomen two days later, and then a different one came out from normal. They were all on posted. And they all said something different. 374 00:42:44.610 --> 00:42:53.940 Rebeccah Goldware: And that came out to faculty and staff around the colleges and all they all said basically the same thing. 375 00:42:55.230 --> 00:42:56.190 Rebeccah Goldware: But they were all different 376 00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:07.590 Rebeccah Goldware: And multiple messages from the same institution with not conflicting but just different. And lots of information WERE OVERWHELMING people 377 00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:14.190 Rebeccah Goldware: Through our list serves through our events through and we're trying to get messages out and they're not hearing us 378 00:43:14.520 --> 00:43:26.430 Rebeccah Goldware: And part of it is because we're overlaying our own messages on top of each other. So that's something that I posit to the colleges for something we can continue to discuss and think about, but it goes back to 379 00:43:27.030 --> 00:43:32.910 Rebeccah Goldware: The style guides and frankly the typography and everything. Everything else we're talking about 380 00:43:33.180 --> 00:43:45.510 Jennifer McDaniel: So Rebecca touch on that a little bit. I think there's some regulations and some expectations. But as far as anything being 100% standard, I wouldn't say there's a specific thing. 381 00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:52.470 Jennifer McDaniel: So like for flyers, especially in the CTE department and Moreno valley. It is very clear. Nothing goes out until Robert has 382 00:43:52.980 --> 00:44:08.550 Jennifer McDaniel: reviewed and approved it so that as far as flyers go but as far as overall correspondence. I don't know what the regulations are with that. But for flyers, there is an approval process for that. And it's very, very clear. It has been very clear. 383 00:44:09.750 --> 00:44:10.260 Jennifer McDaniel: I could not 384 00:44:11.100 --> 00:44:27.420 Rebeccah Goldware: Play playing playing devil's advocate in December of 18 that process didn't exist. It was not clear. It was not clear in May of 19 when I got here and I'm super glad to hear that it's clear. I don't 100% I'm glad you're clear on and I'm not 100% everybody else's but 385 00:44:27.510 --> 00:44:37.290 Jennifer McDaniel: Right, and I speak for the CTE department, but for the CTF they they have made sure that that is specified. But as far as overall correspondence 386 00:44:38.040 --> 00:44:48.150 Jennifer McDaniel: You know those are going on at different levels and different departments and so um I think that should definitely be addressed because it was looking back, it was very, very confusing. 387 00:44:50.370 --> 00:44:56.880 Noelle Hansen: At it at Moreno Valley College has the benefit of having a dedicated designers as well. So Veronica Valdez does all 388 00:44:57.630 --> 00:45:06.360 Noelle Hansen: 99% of their marketing collateral. So there's consistency among what is produced, which makes it easier, she's aware of the district writing sales. 389 00:45:07.140 --> 00:45:13.170 Noelle Hansen: Aware of the district guidelines aware of branding guidelines and when it goes to Robert there's a lot less to change. 390 00:45:13.500 --> 00:45:26.190 Noelle Hansen: That's not true when it comes to faculty sending in their own flyers or wanting to advertise their class and there's there's a limit to say, you know what I don't like your design. I don't think it reflects the college 391 00:45:27.270 --> 00:45:42.630 Noelle Hansen: I can't send it out because you know what battle. Are you going to fight. Are you going to alienate them or you just want to say okay well please fix this text, so it conforms to our writing style guidelines, then use the logo correctly here. And then we have to roll with it. 392 00:45:44.070 --> 00:45:55.410 Ruth Leal: Yeah, I think that's why we're moving more towards templates and things like that. Because if you feel like if we provide them the tools. So I kind of like Chris your toolkit. I think that idea works. 393 00:45:56.490 --> 00:46:02.100 Ruth Leal: Better plus two. I think it can be very challenging if we're also delaying a lot of times 394 00:46:02.550 --> 00:46:17.280 Ruth Leal: Especially with faculty if they send you a flyer to put out, it's because you know it's probably something. The next day, and it's it's not like it's three months in advance and you have time to do that. And so that's the other thing you know you can't bog it down. 395 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:19.950 Rebeccah Goldware: We can't. We 396 00:46:20.220 --> 00:46:23.340 Rebeccah Goldware: can't continue to promote bad behavior. So 397 00:46:23.580 --> 00:46:27.390 Ruth Leal: Well in but that's why we've got to do more education up front. 398 00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:37.080 Ruth Leal: provide more information and help them and then again if we provide templates and easy things where they just have to change the text, the logos are already there. The colors are there. 399 00:46:37.410 --> 00:46:47.670 Ruth Leal: And the fonts are already in place. I'll just change your text and then all of a sudden we're making it easier for them to to be in line with what we want, as opposed to 400 00:46:49.290 --> 00:46:54.000 Ruth Leal: Trying to do it. The you know you're denied way, kind of in the, the, the, the way that 401 00:46:55.290 --> 00:46:59.940 Ruth Leal: It has, you know, must be because I think we're just going to get pushed back, especially from faculty. We're going to get pushed back 402 00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:14.100 Ruth Leal: And then it becomes the, you know, this is a big long conversation and I definitely think it's worth having. But I think we should look at ways we can assist those that are creating and 403 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.220 Ruth Leal: To to follow within the guidelines. 404 00:47:17.910 --> 00:47:26.100 Thea Quigley: If we had just the library of templates that would be world changing because I think we also have to look at the capacity 405 00:47:26.700 --> 00:47:38.700 Thea Quigley: You know, we only have so many graphic designers in our, in our colleges and district and tourists point. I think so many times you know we're creating this flyer because you know 406 00:47:39.210 --> 00:47:48.330 Thea Quigley: Things are last minute and things came up and we realize that, you know, we actually didn't have a piece or whatever. And I know that there would be a lot of people would be very appreciative of this 407 00:47:50.340 --> 00:47:55.680 Chris Clarke: You know, this is a really this is a really good discussion for us to have, I think, for the 408 00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:07.710 Chris Clarke: For the district. I'm comfortable with these poor fonts is recommended funds, when we talk about specific college documents and things it 409 00:48:08.190 --> 00:48:15.690 Chris Clarke: Becomes there's a lot more variety and but i but i think each college needs to carefully consider which funds they recommend 410 00:48:16.200 --> 00:48:24.270 Chris Clarke: And then there has to be an education process, we have to. And I like the idea of us being educators, rather than gatekeepers. 411 00:48:24.780 --> 00:48:34.530 Chris Clarke: You know, as far as how we view ourselves. This is, this is how we can help you to make this a more effective flyer browse and don't please go back and change it to 412 00:48:35.790 --> 00:48:36.540 Chris Clarke: That font. 413 00:48:38.190 --> 00:48:44.940 Noelle Hansen: Has there been any consideration as far as you have these four recommended fonts, three of which are paid for. 414 00:48:45.180 --> 00:48:53.700 Noelle Hansen: Any consideration to distribution. So if someone wants to, hey, I want to make a flyer and I'm trying to file, follow your guidelines, but I don't have these funds. 415 00:48:53.940 --> 00:49:02.220 Noelle Hansen: Have you given thought to that. Have you like. Is there any thought to mentioning how you can get hold of these with proper license because some of them aren't free 416 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.550 Brady Kerr (he/him): Or Norco College, we have 417 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.020 Brady Kerr (he/him): provided them for them. 418 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:14.310 Noelle Hansen: Okay, so, so there's an IT component as far as making sure they're installed on district devices. 419 00:49:15.390 --> 00:49:18.720 Brady Kerr (he/him): No, not, not that they're installed, but they're available for download. 420 00:49:19.260 --> 00:49:21.180 Ashley Etchison: The packages are on the site to download 421 00:49:22.140 --> 00:49:26.070 Chris Clarke: Okay yeah yeah means everything in our toolbox. 422 00:49:26.340 --> 00:49:30.780 Brady Kerr (he/him): You make a great point, though, about them not being free like beavis news not free. 423 00:49:30.930 --> 00:49:32.040 Noelle Hansen: To get the correct license. 424 00:49:32.640 --> 00:49:34.050 Brady Kerr (he/him): But once you've got it. 425 00:49:34.110 --> 00:49:46.740 Brady Kerr (he/him): If you're able to, are we cheating could be a question if we're making it available. We bought it once or whatever. And now we're making it available to everybody, or we'd like doing something wrong. 426 00:49:47.640 --> 00:49:54.300 Noelle Hansen: That's my concern is because fonts have very specific licenses, as far as installs and users. 427 00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:55.350 Brady Kerr (he/him): Though, you're totally right. 428 00:49:55.680 --> 00:50:08.190 Noelle Hansen: So it's something to look into and to understand, like, how can we distribute these fonts. If we need to make them available if they need to be limited to designers, like, hey, if you want it consistent send it through printing and graphics. If 429 00:50:08.670 --> 00:50:14.940 Noelle Hansen: Else you know you have to follow these guidelines or here are free alternatives that are already installed on your machines. 430 00:50:15.540 --> 00:50:16.830 Brady Kerr (he/him): No. Well, you're amazing. 431 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:18.480 Thanks. 432 00:50:22.020 --> 00:50:24.630 Rebeccah Goldware: Yeah, Christian need to look into all that stuff that she just said. 433 00:50:25.710 --> 00:50:27.060 Noelle Hansen: Sorry for making more work. 434 00:50:28.590 --> 00:50:30.930 Rebeccah Goldware: It's something we should move on to the next page. 435 00:50:32.040 --> 00:50:32.370 Rebeccah Goldware: Yeah. 436 00:50:32.520 --> 00:50:34.470 Chris Clarke: We can address that in your toolbox. 437 00:50:35.790 --> 00:50:37.230 Chris Clarke: But I think you make an excellent point. 438 00:50:45.570 --> 00:50:49.320 Chris Clarke: Then we have examples of correct usage. 439 00:50:54.870 --> 00:50:55.710 Chris Clarke: Misuse 440 00:51:02.130 --> 00:51:08.220 Chris Clarke: We thought about adding in all the different ways that people can distort these things. 441 00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:11.730 Chris Clarke: I think they get the idea. 442 00:51:17.160 --> 00:51:20.880 Chris Clarke: And then here we refer to the brand and the brand toolkit. 443 00:51:25.080 --> 00:51:25.920 Chris Clarke: Right now we're planning. 444 00:51:29.490 --> 00:51:32.700 Brady Kerr (he/him): Is that an active link or they have to type that in. 445 00:51:39.660 --> 00:51:43.800 Chris Clarke: Right now it's not active, we'd have to copy and paste. If we can make it. 446 00:51:44.820 --> 00:51:47.430 Brady Kerr (he/him): I think it'd be cool to make it active. 447 00:51:54.840 --> 00:52:04.650 Brady Kerr (he/him): And I don't see an I could be wrong. But why can't all three colleges just agree to this as well. Slash brand. And then we're cohesive 448 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:06.000 Brady Kerr (he/him): And we see that 449 00:52:06.030 --> 00:52:09.030 Brady Kerr (he/him): Never has to change because it's the brand. 450 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:16.110 Noelle Hansen: That's the redirect the NBC is this, but it's a redirect. It's not the actual location. 451 00:52:16.170 --> 00:52:17.820 Brady Kerr (he/him): Okay, but 452 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.730 Brady Kerr (he/him): But that could work like forever and always right. 453 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:27.570 Noelle Hansen: Yeah, that's, that's what I'm planning for our redesign is to at least just have a redirect their whoever its place. 454 00:52:28.140 --> 00:52:32.340 Brady Kerr (he/him): Yeah, I don't see why all of us can just do that. 455 00:52:37.560 --> 00:52:38.190 Chris Clarke: That'd be good. 456 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.030 Ruth Leal: So we have previous document today, Chris. 457 00:52:43.590 --> 00:52:48.060 Chris Clarke: So we made. We made some changes. But I've made notes of all those changes. 458 00:52:49.380 --> 00:52:52.560 Chris Clarke: And as it goes through the committee process. I suspect that there will be 459 00:52:53.640 --> 00:53:03.360 Chris Clarke: Other changes discussed that may come back to this. I don't know how that approval process is going to go forward. So I would suggest that we do make a motion to 460 00:53:04.770 --> 00:53:05.490 Chris Clarke: Accept this 461 00:53:06.600 --> 00:53:08.790 Chris Clarke: To go for the approval process. 462 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.890 Brady Kerr (he/him): I emotion. I think the changes are minor enough states not going to change the world. 463 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:17.070 Chris Clarke: We have a second. 464 00:53:18.180 --> 00:53:18.540 Chris Clarke: Second, 465 00:53:22.830 --> 00:53:26.310 Chris Clarke: Second, I'm sorry, Jason. Thank you, Jason. 466 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.290 Chris Clarke: Won't do a roll call, or do you want to 467 00:53:34.290 --> 00:53:35.190 rschmidt: Just say yes. 468 00:53:35.310 --> 00:53:36.900 rschmidt: Yes or no. In the chat. 469 00:53:39.060 --> 00:53:40.410 Brady Kerr (he/him): Reactions were to 470 00:53:43.980 --> 00:53:46.320 Renee Vigil: To motion. First, I'm sorry. I didn't catch the name 471 00:53:46.830 --> 00:53:47.550 Chris Clarke: Oh, Brady. 472 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:49.020 Renee Vigil: Brady. Okay, thank you. 473 00:53:52.500 --> 00:53:54.570 Chris Clarke: So in the chat during the 474 00:53:59.400 --> 00:53:59.640 Chris Clarke: Chat. 475 00:54:04.020 --> 00:54:04.860 Rebeccah Goldware: Now, forget about 476 00:54:06.540 --> 00:54:07.050 Rebeccah Goldware: Voted 477 00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.330 Chris Clarke: Looks like it more. I can tell. We've 478 00:54:14.430 --> 00:54:14.850 Chris Clarke: got approved. 479 00:54:18.270 --> 00:54:18.840 Rebeccah Goldware: Thank you. 480 00:54:21.330 --> 00:54:21.750 Chris Clarke: All right. 481 00:54:23.640 --> 00:54:26.160 Chris Clarke: stop sharing or I just like 482 00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:29.340 Chris Clarke: To go to our next 483 00:54:31.020 --> 00:54:33.060 Chris Clarke: Item, which is the social media guide. 484 00:54:37.470 --> 00:54:49.800 Chris Clarke: All right, let me start this conversation by saying this is not approved it's, I don't even know where this came from. This was the first draft, though, that we thought we could 485 00:54:50.340 --> 00:55:01.290 Chris Clarke: Discuss as far as a social media guideline document and it's not bad. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. I just don't know how old it is or how 486 00:55:02.100 --> 00:55:11.580 Chris Clarke: How much revision, there is. So I'm going to present what we have and then we can go from there. But this is not this is our first read and this is, like I said, a rough draft. 487 00:55:30.540 --> 00:55:31.530 Chris Clarke: Okay, so we have 488 00:55:34.140 --> 00:55:36.360 Chris Clarke: How social media can advance your message. 489 00:55:39.450 --> 00:55:42.420 Chris Clarke: Again, this would be a guideline that would accompany 490 00:55:44.100 --> 00:55:45.690 Chris Clarke: Our policies and procedures. 491 00:55:47.370 --> 00:55:54.540 Chris Clarke: And this document will go through the approval process right after we make our changes and 492 00:55:55.680 --> 00:56:04.980 Chris Clarke: We have our Howard, we have just a brief description of how social media can use the photo guidelines. 493 00:56:08.340 --> 00:56:09.780 Chris Clarke: Photo release forms. 494 00:56:16.110 --> 00:56:17.370 Chris Clarke: Use of the logos. 495 00:56:19.080 --> 00:56:22.350 Chris Clarke: The District style and the other style guide for the list out 496 00:56:31.350 --> 00:56:33.930 Chris Clarke: Administration best practices. 497 00:56:38.130 --> 00:56:40.650 Chris Clarke: Standards copyrighted content. 498 00:56:45.210 --> 00:56:48.900 Chris Clarke: Removal of user posting content media inquiries. 499 00:56:50.040 --> 00:56:50.850 Chris Clarke: And the school. 500 00:56:52.980 --> 00:57:08.370 Chris Clarke: And I believe we have our district. This will also be included. Now I just breeze through this, because I would like to open it up to discussion. And I would also recommend that right after this meeting, we send out this document, the way it is. 501 00:57:09.450 --> 00:57:18.030 Chris Clarke: That you'd make edits to it with a PDF copy, send them back to me and then we can go forward from that. 502 00:57:19.110 --> 00:57:20.010 Chris Clarke: For our second round. 503 00:57:22.020 --> 00:57:22.770 Chris Clarke: We have next 504 00:57:25.020 --> 00:57:27.990 Chris Clarke: So over to Europe for discussion, we think 505 00:57:32.250 --> 00:57:41.220 Ruth Leal: I think that's a good idea. Chris for us to be able to give feedback. I'd also like to take it back to, to my college. And then, you know, 506 00:57:42.300 --> 00:57:45.120 Ruth Leal: Maybe also get feedback from some of the departments that are 507 00:57:46.500 --> 00:57:54.300 Ruth Leal: administrating a social media page get their feedback as well and then take it to our marketing committee or bringing it back to you guys. 508 00:57:56.310 --> 00:57:58.320 Jason Graham: style guides be renamed it all. 509 00:57:59.940 --> 00:58:02.940 The hyperlink the readability of the hyperlinks are better. 510 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.420 Jason Graham: At this rate of 20% 20% one 511 00:58:07.470 --> 00:58:08.460 Hard to read sometimes 512 00:58:11.010 --> 00:58:11.310 Second, 513 00:58:14.190 --> 00:58:20.790 Noelle Hansen: Yeah, and the NBC link is update. I can see that from looking at it or hyphenated Mr. Your underscores that 514 00:58:23.940 --> 00:58:25.500 District style guide. Yeah. 515 00:58:29.010 --> 00:58:37.350 Ashley Etchison: Maybe ideally you are branding pages where they can access, not just the style guide, but the supporting documents and templates and things like that. 516 00:58:39.030 --> 00:58:44.400 Ashley Etchison: Like Brady suggestion of a local college.edu slash brand nbc.edu slash brand or however it looks out 517 00:58:44.850 --> 00:58:45.330 Ruth Leal: Yes. 518 00:58:45.930 --> 00:58:50.340 Ruth Leal: Yes, Ashley, because then they can have access to all of the items, not just the guide, but 519 00:58:50.430 --> 00:58:50.790 Ashley Etchison: Yeah. 520 00:58:50.970 --> 00:58:52.260 Ruth Leal: We got a better idea than 521 00:58:52.950 --> 00:58:57.180 Ruth Leal: And plus, do that way. Wouldn't these links. If the guides were to be updated. They won't 522 00:58:57.180 --> 00:58:57.450 Break. 523 00:58:59.310 --> 00:59:01.290 Brady Kerr (he/him): Yeah, we absolutely have to do that. 524 00:59:01.350 --> 00:59:06.060 Brady Kerr (he/him): And we need to bit URL moving forward. This is so gross. 525 00:59:08.430 --> 00:59:08.850 Chris Clarke: Here. Yeah. 526 00:59:10.770 --> 00:59:21.750 Noelle Hansen: One thing to think about is what networks are approved. So where are we going to draw the line as far as you know as the college or as a district, we don't 527 00:59:22.140 --> 00:59:34.020 Noelle Hansen: Want our departments using these particular networks because they're hard to monitor and there's no way for us to back you up. And so things like that we have at NBC. I can't like 528 00:59:35.250 --> 00:59:44.820 Noelle Hansen: Speak for all of the all of the networks, but the ones that are approved and are listed on our website we require that they're updated, you know, 529 00:59:45.600 --> 00:59:56.820 Noelle Hansen: Maybe like every month or so or I take them off the list. And we recommend daily posting, but a lot of times that doesn't happen. And we also say, you know what 530 00:59:57.450 --> 01:00:03.870 Noelle Hansen: We only really approve the Instagram, Twitter and Facebook at this time because they're easy for 531 01:00:04.170 --> 01:00:16.050 Noelle Hansen: You know me to maintain access to and to backup. So like Snapchat. The college has reserved our name. And I know that as NBC has reserved their name and they use it, but no one else uses Snapchat, to my knowledge. 532 01:00:17.040 --> 01:00:29.190 Noelle Hansen: So there are few things that that we just have guidelines around like what is, you know, quote unquote sanctioned and that's simply stuff that is easier for me to monitor because it falls onto my plate. 533 01:00:31.260 --> 01:00:32.460 Ruth Leal: Me you agree. 534 01:00:34.260 --> 01:00:34.380 With 535 01:00:37.140 --> 01:00:43.560 Chris Clarke: Identifying specifically which Meteor sanctum or approved for general college 536 01:00:44.610 --> 01:00:53.700 Noelle Hansen: And being more exact about the process. So, like, you know, approach your webmaster to be to make sure that you understand what's involved in making a network. 537 01:00:54.660 --> 01:01:07.350 Noelle Hansen: That you get the resources like the proper logos, things like that, in order to set up your profile that you follow the correct process of making a business profile so you can add other administrators and you don't share passwords. 538 01:01:08.010 --> 01:01:14.880 Noelle Hansen: That you know that students should not have posting access to it. So yeah, so there I think there are a lot of things that you could 539 01:01:15.270 --> 01:01:24.030 Noelle Hansen: Make sure that they understand this is the process and then that will still facilitate the college's having their own like specific you know yeses or nose. 540 01:01:25.290 --> 01:01:36.150 Brady Kerr (he/him): Is that a conversation. We should have to where we decide as a committee which ones are sanction, or do you want to leave that up to the individual colleges 541 01:01:43.020 --> 01:01:44.520 Rebeccah Goldware: I have mixed feelings about that. 542 01:01:46.140 --> 01:01:51.330 Rebeccah Goldware: Because what what works for one college may not work for another. They may have just because of 543 01:01:52.170 --> 01:02:02.970 Rebeccah Goldware: The base population. I don't know why it would be that different 13 miles apart but it seemingly is in some situation. So I could say, I could see within the 544 01:02:03.630 --> 01:02:15.810 Rebeccah Goldware: District as saying these are the primary channels for communication anything outside of these, you should check is no i was saying with your webmaster on how they can support I 545 01:02:16.710 --> 01:02:17.460 Preferred 546 01:02:20.580 --> 01:02:27.990 Rebeccah Goldware: I just, I, I hate all social media. So I say that in full disclosure to this group, but 547 01:02:28.980 --> 01:02:29.940 Brady Kerr (he/him): Is it go see 548 01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:34.140 Brady Kerr (he/him): I don't see the district using Snapchat, for instance, right. 549 01:02:34.170 --> 01:02:41.670 Rebeccah Goldware: Right. But I also don't know what platform is going to exist because I'm you know my space used to be a thing right like 550 01:02:42.690 --> 01:02:44.850 Rebeccah Goldware: And maybe Facebook's going to go away. I don't 551 01:02:45.870 --> 01:02:47.820 Rebeccah Goldware: But I mark. You had your hand up. 552 01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:51.870 M Knight: Oh, I, I don't know if the call if 553 01:02:53.070 --> 01:03:04.980 M Knight: We're, we're kind of in the process of trying to do an inventory. Just, just for example, we found 92 Instagram accounts that are associated, just with RCC 554 01:03:06.300 --> 01:03:09.540 Noelle Hansen: Oh yeah. It's insane. It's insane. There's no controlling the clubs. 555 01:03:10.140 --> 01:03:13.260 M Knight: And that some of these are clubs. Some of them are programs. 556 01:03:13.290 --> 01:03:16.080 M Knight: The marching tigers career closet. 557 01:03:17.790 --> 01:03:24.720 M Knight: Some of them are, you know, and then then you go into the ones that are just that are that were created by students if 558 01:03:25.200 --> 01:03:25.800 Ruth Leal: We don't have any 559 01:03:26.130 --> 01:03:28.080 M Knight: Control over though there's there's 560 01:03:28.140 --> 01:03:33.210 M Knight: Yeah, do you name it right you so name of the district with our permission. 561 01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:39.480 Noelle Hansen: I've contacted like a network before and say, hey, these they're using our name without permission. Please pull it down. 562 01:03:40.080 --> 01:03:58.200 Noelle Hansen: So maybe having guidelines in there about how that's done would be, you know, helpful as well. You know, if you don't use our name, then we will make sure that it is pulled username correctly and with approval will make sure that pulled down and then provide information on how that's done. 563 01:03:58.980 --> 01:04:03.030 Rebeccah Goldware: There's a reason the FCC urban farm Facebook page doesn't exist anymore. 564 01:04:04.260 --> 01:04:08.820 Rebeccah Goldware: It's now called something different because they're not allowed to use RCC 565 01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.790 Rebeccah Goldware: They didn't want to give us control. So they changed the name 566 01:04:16.650 --> 01:04:17.070 Rebeccah Goldware: That's OK. 567 01:04:17.580 --> 01:04:21.810 Brady Kerr (he/him): COO, who has, who has to like monitor all of this crap. 568 01:04:23.580 --> 01:04:26.820 Rebeccah Goldware: Peggy, the PA is depends on apologies. 569 01:04:26.970 --> 01:04:29.460 Peggy Lomas: I mean, you're actually doing that this week ready 570 01:04:30.390 --> 01:04:32.820 Rebeccah Goldware: Well, I mean, you know, job. 571 01:04:33.180 --> 01:04:34.770 Peggy Lomas: Just had a conversation about it. 572 01:04:35.070 --> 01:04:35.490 Noelle Hansen: It. 573 01:04:35.610 --> 01:04:36.990 sucks up so much time. 574 01:04:39.540 --> 01:04:39.900 Ruth Leal: We do. 575 01:04:40.530 --> 01:04:43.890 Ruth Leal: To look at see what the students are putting and things like that. Brady, but 576 01:04:43.890 --> 01:04:44.310 Ruth Leal: Though, yeah. 577 01:04:45.420 --> 01:04:54.090 Rebeccah Goldware: It's a, it's a student club. If it's a a last student club by the institution. There's a faculty member is they're not 578 01:04:54.870 --> 01:05:03.570 Noelle Hansen: Yeah, so the problem is what I run into with as NBC is that they set up some of them go through the process because Frankie has been like really proactive about 579 01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:18.390 Noelle Hansen: Having me go over and actually present to them like this is what you should do. This is what you shouldn't do for social media. These are the metrics that we approve and but beyond that there are some clubs that just don't follow that process. 580 01:05:19.470 --> 01:05:19.950 Noelle Hansen: And 581 01:05:20.040 --> 01:05:21.030 The faculty advisors. 582 01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:29.130 Rebeccah Goldware: Well, and that's the education part that rich talking about a if they don't know, then we need to inform them. But part of it is we need to write our roles. 583 01:05:29.790 --> 01:05:44.460 Rebeccah Goldware: And that's, that's really where the bigger breakdown and I think has happened. So all of the feedback or input here is going to be really important to give that structure so that we can help people stay in the swim lanes that we don't, we can look like a grown up organization. 584 01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.290 Rebeccah Goldware: And people can get streamlined. 585 01:05:46.290 --> 01:05:55.920 Brady Kerr (he/him): Messaging. I think that that faculty that advise these organizations give power to the students to do whatever they want. 586 01:05:56.310 --> 01:05:57.450 Noelle Hansen: 100% yeah 587 01:05:58.320 --> 01:05:59.040 Ruth Leal: I have a 588 01:05:59.160 --> 01:06:00.870 Ruth Leal: Listener that information. 589 01:06:00.870 --> 01:06:08.100 Ruth Leal: I'm with Noel like I would go to each semester I would go to the inner club council meetings where all of the club. 590 01:06:09.690 --> 01:06:17.010 Ruth Leal: Chairs presidents wherever they are club leads attend and then the student activities coordinator, which is faculty position. 591 01:06:17.520 --> 01:06:32.640 Ruth Leal: They are the ones that kind of oversee and help, but I provide them the style guide I go through everything I talked to them about things. So it would be really great if we had some, you know, guidelines for them written down that we can share. And then I have a lot of this club. 592 01:06:34.620 --> 01:06:41.130 Ruth Leal: Presidents contacting me. And so, you know, I've worked with a couple to say, okay, that's probably not something you should be posting, that's something 593 01:06:41.460 --> 01:06:48.240 Ruth Leal: You know, but for the most part, you know, the they do pretty good, but I didn't make sure every semester because they can change. 594 01:06:48.510 --> 01:06:56.700 Ruth Leal: So sometimes, it'd be for us to do it once a year, thinking it's going to stay the same, but it would, you would change in, you know, mid year. So I come every semester. 595 01:06:57.480 --> 01:07:07.560 Ruth Leal: While obviously not now, but before and give them that information. So I think having guidelines for the clubs would be not only helpful for us, but the Student Activities coordinators are also 596 01:07:08.040 --> 01:07:13.800 Ruth Leal: Keeping an eye on what those clubs are doing. And then, you know, the student government in your club council, you know, 597 01:07:14.910 --> 01:07:18.840 Ruth Leal: Their position that they oversee the clubs. I just think it would be helpful for all of us. 598 01:07:20.700 --> 01:07:31.800 Noelle Hansen: In part of my concern comes in from the cyber security aspect and, you know, sharing the email and password that's associated with that account what roadblocks are going to be on there who's on the hook for that. 599 01:07:32.910 --> 01:07:41.880 Noelle Hansen: So, and then, what's, what is the turnovers that changed every semester or is it changed every year when the club president. You know how many students have access to this information. 600 01:07:42.270 --> 01:07:54.210 Noelle Hansen: So that that comes into what some of the questions that I asked when they go through the approval process, but I can't answer that for every single random Instagram that's been created for such and such club. 601 01:07:57.240 --> 01:07:57.750 Points. 602 01:08:00.150 --> 01:08:00.600 What's next, 603 01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:07.800 Chris Clarke: Well, I think that there's obviously a great need for this and I'm looking forward to people penning these 604 01:08:09.300 --> 01:08:12.630 Chris Clarke: Suggestions in the draft that wasn't going to be creating 605 01:08:13.950 --> 01:08:15.180 Chris Clarke: We've tried to capture 606 01:08:16.500 --> 01:08:33.930 Chris Clarke: And we've recorded this conversation, but all of those changes are all of those things probably won't be implemented by my team. So it's going to be critical for everybody to take a hard look at what we've got at in your two cents and then some 607 01:08:35.310 --> 01:08:41.430 Chris Clarke: We can always edit down. It's really hard to edit up if we don't have at least the ideas expressed so don't worry 608 01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:42.000 Rebeccah Goldware: Can you make 609 01:08:42.480 --> 01:08:57.930 Rebeccah Goldware: Can you make sure that this document is out to the group. This week, knowing that we won't be back collectively until February, because I know some folks are leaving, they may want to take a look now and then I'll look again early February before we all come back. 610 01:08:58.320 --> 01:08:58.500 Yeah. 611 01:09:00.420 --> 01:09:01.740 Ruth Leal: Well, maybe in the meantime. 612 01:09:01.770 --> 01:09:18.480 Ruth Leal: Chris, maybe with Mark pulling those of us that are the social media administrators together and having some conversations because like things that no I was bringing up maybe bringing Tony Rizzo into it if he does social media for RCC No, okay, whomever does it 613 01:09:19.710 --> 01:09:27.960 Ruth Leal: And then, you know, so that maybe we can also fine tune. Some of the things working on it. During the winter in preparation for when everyone turns 614 01:09:28.290 --> 01:09:28.500 Your 615 01:09:30.540 --> 01:09:30.960 Chris Clarke: Your idea. 616 01:09:32.400 --> 01:09:32.700 Chris Clarke: Right. 617 01:09:38.550 --> 01:09:42.690 Chris Clarke: Next document that we're considering is listserv guidelines. 618 01:09:53.520 --> 01:10:03.240 Chris Clarke: Initial read or initial walkthrough. And we'll do the same thing with this one will send out copies of it so we can all edit it. 619 01:10:04.350 --> 01:10:07.470 Chris Clarke: But this is the starting point, it's not it's not intended to be a 620 01:10:08.700 --> 01:10:16.020 Chris Clarke: fully functional document. Yes. These are the RCC list guide on this certain guidelines. 621 01:10:19.320 --> 01:10:30.300 Chris Clarke: We would expect each college to do something similar for their listeners, but the intent of this is to regulate and 622 01:10:31.320 --> 01:10:36.600 Chris Clarke: make recommendations on how the district ministers work and 623 01:10:38.430 --> 01:10:40.410 Chris Clarke: Which ones we keep them, which ones we don't 624 01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:44.820 Brady Kerr (he/him): You've got a small misspell in that red underlined. 625 01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:47.640 Chris Clarke: Said, again, sorry. 626 01:10:49.020 --> 01:10:50.340 Brady Kerr (he/him): Miss fell under number three. 627 01:10:51.630 --> 01:10:52.170 Well, thank you. 628 01:10:53.790 --> 01:10:54.120 Chris Clarke: Got it. 629 01:11:02.280 --> 01:11:18.330 Ruth Leal: Chris this lines up with the one Medical College in and on number five. Be we changed ours to its instead of being well ours is MC. So you guys are are CCD. It's not staff we change that to classified professionals. 630 01:11:19.380 --> 01:11:22.080 Ruth Leal: So it's classified pros, I think, is our it's shortened. 631 01:11:28.050 --> 01:11:30.060 Ruth Leal: Yeah you changed it. 632 01:11:31.740 --> 01:11:33.690 Ruth Leal: Sounds like classified pros. 633 01:11:34.440 --> 01:11:37.080 Chris Clarke: We have a CS yay as well. 634 01:11:39.570 --> 01:11:39.690 Chris Clarke: As 635 01:11:40.950 --> 01:11:44.070 Rebeccah Goldware: PSTN classified staff are different. One would be union. 636 01:11:44.400 --> 01:11:46.680 Rebeccah Goldware: And the other one is everybody else. Yes. 637 01:11:46.740 --> 01:11:49.560 Rebeccah Goldware: So because just just just because you're a member of CCA 638 01:11:49.860 --> 01:11:51.090 Rebeccah Goldware: Just because your staff does 639 01:11:51.090 --> 01:11:51.900 Rebeccah Goldware: Not mean you remember 640 01:11:52.020 --> 01:11:52.770 Rebeccah Goldware: Yes. Yay. 641 01:11:53.280 --> 01:11:55.440 Ruth Leal: Yes, thank you. Great. 642 01:11:57.570 --> 01:11:59.070 Rebeccah Goldware: Giving this example about 643 01:11:59.070 --> 01:12:02.070 Rebeccah Goldware: yams and sweet potatoes for a very long time. 644 01:12:02.310 --> 01:12:05.070 Ruth Leal: P R OS, I think. There you go. Yeah, I think I'm 645 01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:09.690 Peggy Lomas: Tired occasion between the two completely different communication. 646 01:12:10.170 --> 01:12:16.350 Ruth Leal: Completely different. So I'll double check that crystal to confirm. It's an ass or not an ass but I'm pretty sure it's classified pros. 647 01:12:17.040 --> 01:12:18.030 Noelle Hansen: Is there a reason why 648 01:12:18.120 --> 01:12:21.360 Ruth Leal: Ours is ours is already in existence and we're already using it. 649 01:12:21.900 --> 01:12:27.090 Noelle Hansen: Is there a reason why staff was removed because I'm not really seeing an issue with seizing staff. 650 01:12:28.260 --> 01:12:28.500 Ruth Leal: As 651 01:12:29.010 --> 01:12:33.660 Ruth Leal: Well, because staff. Lot of times when we think of staff at that could be more than one constituent group. 652 01:12:34.170 --> 01:12:36.510 Ruth Leal: And so when we did our discussion. 653 01:12:36.780 --> 01:12:45.780 Ruth Leal: Was if you're breaking it out by constituent group, then you have faculty and management. So then that would be classified employees, which would be classified professionals, so 654 01:12:47.100 --> 01:12:47.550 Rebeccah Goldware: And then 655 01:12:47.610 --> 01:12:50.160 Rebeccah Goldware: It didn't make sense for the RCC do is everybody 656 01:12:51.540 --> 01:12:51.900 Ruth Leal: Yes. 657 01:12:51.930 --> 01:12:54.300 Rebeccah Goldware: Because then that's really, that's really all stuff. 658 01:12:55.230 --> 01:12:56.700 Noelle Hansen: Yes, I just I just tend to 659 01:12:57.030 --> 01:12:59.760 Noelle Hansen: refer to them as employees. Yes. 660 01:13:00.030 --> 01:13:00.570 Rebeccah Goldware: Stop it. 661 01:13:00.630 --> 01:13:03.360 Rebeccah Goldware: No while you and I are in agreement staff and employees are the same thing, but 662 01:13:04.590 --> 01:13:09.390 Rebeccah Goldware: That we call faculty out separately and their staff their employees. 663 01:13:09.660 --> 01:13:25.860 Ruth Leal: Right, same thing. Now, that was our discussion. So basically it's the same thing. No. Well, what you're saying are all is everybody and then they wanted specific constituent group listserv that would only go to those. And so then, that's why. So it just a line it up. So it's the same as ours. 664 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:32.130 rschmidt: Rebecca question are all all all five of these monitored. 665 01:13:34.050 --> 01:13:34.230 No. 666 01:13:36.300 --> 01:13:36.750 Rebeccah Goldware: No. 667 01:13:37.770 --> 01:13:44.820 Ruth Leal: I think in ours. The only monitor. One was that I think where we changed it to not know again if I going down. 668 01:13:44.850 --> 01:13:49.470 Ruth Leal: Right normally monitor one we had was, I think our president's office and maybe something else. 669 01:13:49.530 --> 01:13:59.970 Rebeccah Goldware: Robert, that's not fair I answered that correct, yes. They're all Managed Accounts. The question is whether or not they have open access and that becomes the request of 670 01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:11.460 Rebeccah Goldware: Fill in the blank on CCA to fill in that are CCD all is obviously moderated and the faculty list serve would be moderated by whoever the faculty 671 01:14:12.210 --> 01:14:21.150 Rebeccah Goldware: Direct. They may say no. Anybody who's in this list or can have open access and then which case it's unmoderated so it's a that's a mixed bag. I don't know how to answer that. 672 01:14:21.420 --> 01:14:27.540 rschmidt: Like, like I guess that leads my ultimate question is, they be identified as 673 01:14:28.950 --> 01:14:39.570 rschmidt: Monitored or on monitored and if they're monitored reference person behind it as a contact. I mean, I'm just 674 01:14:41.490 --> 01:14:44.280 rschmidt: You know, because so many people will send emails. 675 01:14:45.390 --> 01:14:53.580 rschmidt: And then it becomes. Where's my email. So, I mean, if we're going to go to this step of having a lists or guideline. 676 01:14:54.150 --> 01:14:56.040 Ashley Etchison: I think it would be helpful. 677 01:14:56.400 --> 01:14:58.470 rschmidt: To say unmonitored 678 01:14:58.530 --> 01:15:03.000 Rebeccah Goldware: Monitored will scroll scroll down a little bit, because you have 679 01:15:04.860 --> 01:15:09.240 Rebeccah Goldware: Like number five of our managed mustards. 680 01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:16.230 Brady Kerr (he/him): While you're wearing your at Chris delete the S Ruth said it's just pro 681 01:15:19.080 --> 01:15:19.860 Ruth Leal: I was confirming 682 01:15:20.340 --> 01:15:23.160 Ashley Etchison: Does it say someone here, their list that you are not allowed to opt out. 683 01:15:24.660 --> 01:15:29.130 Ruth Leal: I think it's the constituency groups. You're not allowed to opt out of and I think 684 01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:31.350 Ashley Etchison: We want to just write that in there. 685 01:15:32.100 --> 01:15:35.670 Rebeccah Goldware: Like number five. Yeah. Once you're in a group, you're in a group. 686 01:15:36.240 --> 01:15:37.170 Ruth Leal: Yeah, your 687 01:15:37.620 --> 01:15:38.850 Ruth Leal: Nose noticed by a drama. 688 01:15:39.360 --> 01:15:41.580 Ruth Leal: Unless you're not an employee anymore, then you're out and 689 01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:47.430 Brady Kerr (he/him): Rebecca knows my drama with this because I still got part time faculty listserv. 690 01:15:49.590 --> 01:15:56.520 Brady Kerr (he/him): It was like, are you not aware of where I'm at, who I am, like what's going on and I couldn't unsubscribe without permission. 691 01:15:58.020 --> 01:16:03.780 Noelle Hansen: Interesting okay I manage manage the membership of the the marina Valley College Ones. 692 01:16:03.870 --> 01:16:11.580 Noelle Hansen: And network has to send me updates and that doesn't always happen. So someone transitions to like full time. 693 01:16:13.020 --> 01:16:28.860 Noelle Hansen: It is entirely dependent on me getting a notification that their email has changed. And then I have to assume. Okay. Well, that means that they're full time. Now I need to remove them from this listserv. And sometimes people want to stay on it. Most of the time, they don't. But yeah. 694 01:16:31.140 --> 01:16:35.490 Brady Kerr (he/him): I don't know how to fix that for everyone, but I can't be the only one in pay 695 01:16:36.480 --> 01:16:37.560 Ashley Etchison: Now, I think we've all had that 696 01:16:38.250 --> 01:16:48.450 Rebeccah Goldware: It's because it's because the left and the right hander and talk to each other. So HR and the place that takes you in and make sure your employee and the place that pays you don't talk to each other. 697 01:16:49.290 --> 01:16:50.490 Rebeccah Goldware: And so one day. 698 01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:52.260 Rebeccah Goldware: I'm going to say what the RP 699 01:16:54.390 --> 01:17:03.390 Rebeccah Goldware: Those two things are going to happen. In which case, when you update your address with payroll HR will also find out which is not the case. Currently today. 700 01:17:03.810 --> 01:17:06.540 Brady Kerr (he/him): Yeah, I don't mind being the guinea pig. 701 01:17:08.550 --> 01:17:10.140 Rebeccah Goldware: So I'm gonna mess up the paycheck. Right. 702 01:17:11.700 --> 01:17:14.700 Brady Kerr (he/him): You gotta do what you gotta do, Rebecca, you've got my back. 703 01:17:15.180 --> 01:17:15.960 Rebeccah Goldware: Right. Thank you. 704 01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:20.040 Rebeccah Goldware: Um, what else 705 01:17:20.040 --> 01:17:20.700 Rebeccah Goldware: On your on 706 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:25.320 Renee Vigil: Rebecca and also carries over to with each rave and those type of issues when people 707 01:17:25.320 --> 01:17:28.980 Renee Vigil: Are entities and stuff like that. So it's a huge 708 01:17:30.030 --> 01:17:31.830 Rebeccah Goldware: I didn't even realize that more on the back end to 709 01:17:32.700 --> 01:17:35.310 Renee Vigil: There's a lot more conversation that we can talk about with that. 710 01:17:36.540 --> 01:17:40.680 Rebeccah Goldware: I don't, I just want the list serves to I don't want 45 emails elite. 711 01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:42.450 Noelle Hansen: Contacting 712 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:43.080 You 713 01:17:44.280 --> 01:17:55.260 Noelle Hansen: If your employment situation changes and you need to be removed from a list and you can't do it yourself like here, contact the webmaster and they can manually remove you. After verifying 714 01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:56.340 Rebeccah Goldware: In theory, 715 01:17:56.610 --> 01:17:59.730 Rebeccah Goldware: That's in there somewhere, but yes. 716 01:18:00.030 --> 01:18:08.850 Brady Kerr (he/him): A small thought to because Rebecca, you and I have talked about this, the idea of dis allowing replies to all 717 01:18:11.040 --> 01:18:13.200 Rebeccah Goldware: Chris, I think structurally. That's the way it's set up. 718 01:18:13.770 --> 01:18:21.360 Ruth Leal: Right, you can remove that function, Brady. You can just have it so that they can't reply, all it would just be and I think we added 719 01:18:22.500 --> 01:18:30.090 Ruth Leal: We added a list a list or for our president's office so that there was official announcements that those would come from there. And that way, people wouldn't 720 01:18:30.810 --> 01:18:45.240 Ruth Leal: That I think we separated are all from our president's office and I don't know if you want to do that. Maybe for the Chancellor and some official communications that you guys have coming out that really is, nobody. You can't reply all. It's just information, I'd have to look it up. 721 01:18:46.380 --> 01:18:51.480 Rebeccah Goldware: So you guys were okay but not everybody is going to respond to poly and that she's 722 01:18:52.470 --> 01:18:52.770 Brady Kerr (he/him): Well, 723 01:18:52.830 --> 01:18:53.310 Here just 724 01:18:54.480 --> 01:18:55.800 Ruth Leal: Love it, love it. 725 01:18:55.980 --> 01:19:05.070 Brady Kerr (he/him): Here's, here's an interesting thought. Ashley just became a new dean, it went out to normal. Congratulations, actually. 726 01:19:06.150 --> 01:19:17.220 Brady Kerr (he/him): Do we or do we not want everybody to be able to say congratulations. And then we get the emails or can we just congratulate her 727 01:19:18.510 --> 01:19:30.810 Brady Kerr (he/him): And not have to hear everyone else say things is that disrespectful. I don't know. But the email blast is disrespectful to a certain degree, Ashley. How do you feel because you're the newest 728 01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:44.790 Ashley Etchison: Experiment. Everybody has a difference of opinion on this subject. So I think some people enjoy it, it's a it's a culture that climate and other people. It fills up your inbox. So I think it's just, you're never going to find a perfect answer to that question. 729 01:19:44.940 --> 01:19:48.960 Brady Kerr (he/him): So there are people that enjoy that being able to see all of that. 730 01:19:50.700 --> 01:19:51.270 Ruth Leal: But I think 731 01:19:51.570 --> 01:19:53.280 Ruth Leal: The point of the list serves was 732 01:19:53.550 --> 01:19:57.150 Ruth Leal: Those would go under announcements, like we created the announcement when 733 01:19:57.510 --> 01:20:08.190 Ruth Leal: To where you could send out. That would be like announcements, it would go out separately and people can I think they can opt in or out of those ones like we separated it a little bit more than what you guys have here. 734 01:20:08.670 --> 01:20:19.260 Rebeccah Goldware: So I guess request is a question in space, Tara just posted if people like is your. Is it a reply doesn't have to be a reply all or will they were only reply. 735 01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:30.750 Rebeccah Goldware: To the center in the new setup, because the way I understood the listserv. Is it if if it's open its open. So if one person can respond, they can respond. Anybody can respond 736 01:20:31.260 --> 01:20:40.050 Rebeccah Goldware: And so like RCC do is not you can't respond if if it comes if you try to respond to it. Well, that's not fair. Robert can respond to 737 01:20:40.050 --> 01:20:40.770 rschmidt: It. Yeah, I can. 738 01:20:41.100 --> 01:20:43.290 Rebeccah Goldware: Respond to it. That is an accident. 739 01:20:43.320 --> 01:20:43.950 rschmidt: If we do 740 01:20:44.220 --> 01:20:49.200 Ruth Leal: That is not a lot of conversations about this revenge is 741 01:20:49.980 --> 01:20:52.860 rschmidt: Anybody can respond. They just don't get out 742 01:20:53.070 --> 01:20:59.490 Rebeccah Goldware: Right, because it's moderated and that's the point. So ignore the college all are not moderated 743 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:09.000 Rebeccah Goldware: And Sarah, to answer your point or your question. I don't know if it could be a non reply or because everybody has rights to send to it. 744 01:21:09.360 --> 01:21:10.440 Rebeccah Goldware: So my 745 01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:27.210 Sara Nafzgar: My question wasn't to get rid of the reply, it was I think outlets outlooks setting defaults to reply all so I think sometimes the reply was accidental. I think if the default setting more reply, we probably see a lot less reply all's I know 746 01:21:28.230 --> 01:21:31.740 Rebeccah Goldware: My deep thoughts from the center in the center is the college all 747 01:21:32.190 --> 01:21:48.600 Rebeccah Goldware: Yeah, that's, that's the problem. If the deeper in the example that really used was Ashley, then all of the responses in theory would go to actually only but normal sent the message so normal is going to get into and distribute all the messages. 748 01:21:48.750 --> 01:21:51.390 Ruth Leal: Yeah, most of our listeners are not moderated 749 01:21:51.690 --> 01:21:59.490 Ruth Leal: And we started having a heavy discussion about moderators, because then our faculty pushed back and said up 750 01:22:00.150 --> 01:22:10.560 Ruth Leal: You know, free speech and moderating speech and we started having that conversation. So we kept so we separated. Our president's office and official announcements to one moderated 751 01:22:11.040 --> 01:22:21.450 Ruth Leal: listserv. That was moderated by our president's office and so nobody can send to that you'd have to submit to that listserv and at get permission but it really has to be official things only 752 01:22:22.020 --> 01:22:28.290 Ruth Leal: And then everything else. If we have considered so like if the faculty want to send something that they can send to their faculty lists or 753 01:22:28.650 --> 01:22:39.660 Ruth Leal: They can reply all if they want, because it's only just to their constituent group. So it was it was more than just having a constituent group one and then in all it was separating them to 754 01:22:40.380 --> 01:22:47.970 Ruth Leal: More than that, so that eventually you know if you do want to make an announcement of something, it goes to a separate listserv. And people can opt out. 755 01:22:49.170 --> 01:22:55.140 Ruth Leal: You can't. The only ones. You couldn't have that were constituency group ones so that all wouldn't be a constituent group listserv. I 756 01:22:55.950 --> 01:23:05.520 Ashley Etchison: Like the idea of maybe I'm like a chancellor email like we have Norco for the president because then it elevates the importance of that email. So if it pops into your inbox, like, Oh my gosh, I gotta read this one. 757 01:23:06.150 --> 01:23:13.680 Ashley Etchison: Because there are few and far between. And it's, it's going to be an important announcement for the district and unless that's the purpose of the RCC deal 758 01:23:13.860 --> 01:23:23.160 rschmidt: That's what the purpose of our CCD all is the whole idea behind is when you see an RCC the all message, you know, sort of importance. 759 01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:23.880 Ashley Etchison: In 760 01:23:24.390 --> 01:23:25.530 rschmidt: And you should open it. 761 01:23:26.790 --> 01:23:36.870 rschmidt: That was the whole idea from the beginning is not to separate the Chancellor into a whole nother group want 762 01:23:37.710 --> 01:23:40.590 rschmidt: The RCC to all and know that it's important 763 01:23:42.060 --> 01:23:51.480 rschmidt: Into into that Chris, you're actually missing two other groups. There's a centennial plaza only group and a district only group to 764 01:23:52.650 --> 01:24:13.050 rschmidt: That breaks out. So if something happens downtown and we need to clear out Centennial Plaza. There's that listserv and and then there's a district only and that's for all district employees that the Chancellor has access to and stuff. So you're going to need to add those 765 01:24:13.590 --> 01:24:25.110 Chris Clarke: Now I'm sure there's there's others, we have a list of all of those that are currently active and we we need to decide which ones are those who want to continue. I think the list was over 100 different lists. So 766 01:24:26.310 --> 01:24:30.840 Chris Clarke: We certainly have a list of all of them. We need to identify which ones we want going forward and which ones. 767 01:24:31.980 --> 01:24:33.420 Chris Clarke: We need to combine 768 01:24:36.030 --> 01:24:39.810 Brady Kerr (he/him): I do you think we could streamline to a certain degree. 769 01:24:45.750 --> 01:24:58.470 Rebeccah Goldware: So we're going to send this out in this can go to for discussion again February. Yes, that's the time yeah okay and brief is Norco have you already rolled out 770 01:24:59.970 --> 01:25:03.570 Rebeccah Goldware: Norco hasn't rolled this out, right, because I'm like right probably just talking so 771 01:25:03.750 --> 01:25:07.140 Ruth Leal: So it's we so we have it all created so 772 01:25:08.910 --> 01:25:11.550 Ruth Leal: Oh my goodness. His name just dropped from my head. 773 01:25:12.090 --> 01:25:14.220 Ruth Leal: At the district and network care. 774 01:25:14.850 --> 01:25:24.540 Ruth Leal: He's already created all of ours for us and we weren't we're already set up so the only thing was, is it happened with the pandemic. So we didn't get to 775 01:25:25.380 --> 01:25:34.800 Ruth Leal: To roll out the education but we the list serves are already active and we're already some groups are already starting to use theirs, and we just haven't done it college wide yet. 776 01:25:35.850 --> 01:25:46.770 Ruth Leal: But I'm assuming that you know because obviously we're dealing with other things. But that is something that we will start rolling out, but it is already all in place, everything is ready and we already 777 01:25:48.030 --> 01:25:50.640 Rebeccah Goldware: Do you think that the intent for Fall is to make this switch 778 01:25:52.500 --> 01:26:02.580 Ruth Leal: You know, right, I'd have to ask on that and when we're doing it because it's already there. It's everybody can start using those list serves and a lot of, like I said, a lot of groups already on 779 01:26:04.080 --> 01:26:07.620 Rebeccah Goldware: To the other two colleges structurally assuming that 780 01:26:09.450 --> 01:26:13.110 Rebeccah Goldware: Chris kato has to as he he's only been to the building. 781 01:26:13.110 --> 01:26:13.440 Ones. 782 01:26:15.630 --> 01:26:16.620 Chris Clarke: Who knows what 783 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:17.550 Rebeccah Goldware: To eighth 784 01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:41.460 Rebeccah Goldware: Structurally, does this work for at least concept wise for NBC and RCC, and if so, what are the next steps. I mean, we can repurpose this and have copies to have it go through whatever process, you need it to go through 785 01:26:42.390 --> 01:27:00.630 Noelle Hansen: I think it would be fine. I think my only concern would be how do we empower people to actually use the listserv site and understand how to use it and how do I access, you know, add and remove themselves from lists, because the moment that I point them to that website. They're like, what 786 01:27:01.950 --> 01:27:04.680 Rebeccah Goldware: So Jared had or has um 787 01:27:05.790 --> 01:27:11.310 Rebeccah Goldware: I think that's pretty complete structuring what to do, how 788 01:27:12.540 --> 01:27:16.800 Rebeccah Goldware: And that could be part of the rollout. If we decide to have a all in 789 01:27:18.270 --> 01:27:23.460 Rebeccah Goldware: If it's possible to do something over the summer pro roll out in the fall and 790 01:27:24.270 --> 01:27:28.530 Ruth Leal: Do a song, Rebecca. I think he puts it on any of the list serves whether you can opt in. Now, 791 01:27:29.670 --> 01:27:34.080 Ruth Leal: So like the constituent when there is no at the bottom. It doesn't say you can opt out. 792 01:27:34.650 --> 01:27:37.740 Ruth Leal: Of any of the ones that you can will have 793 01:27:39.390 --> 01:27:49.980 Ruth Leal: A thing at the bottom that says, you know, if you wish to opt out, click on this and stuff. Because when he was setting up our list serves. He was checking on all of that, about which ones were opt in, which ones were opt out. 794 01:27:50.400 --> 01:27:58.980 Ruth Leal: Who the administrators were who would be able to with was moderated or not. So he was going through when we did ours and was checking on that when he was setting them up. 795 01:27:59.460 --> 01:27:59.850 Okay. 796 01:28:03.810 --> 01:28:08.340 Rebeccah Goldware: It's not forget the stuff. It's almost 430 I want to be conscious of people's time so 797 01:28:09.300 --> 01:28:17.220 Chris Clarke: So this will be sent out and then we need comment back before we meet again, which this point is planning. 798 01:28:20.970 --> 01:28:22.470 Rebeccah Goldware: In February, okay. 799 01:28:25.200 --> 01:28:30.180 Rebeccah Goldware: Anything else for I know we didn't get to update. Anything else for the good of the group. 800 01:28:32.250 --> 01:28:34.890 Brady Kerr (he/him): Norco approved our Branding Guy, 801 01:28:38.220 --> 01:28:41.070 Ruth Leal: It's in marks capable hands. He's working on it right now. 802 01:28:42.870 --> 01:28:43.740 Rebeccah Goldware: Excellent. Okay. 803 01:28:45.090 --> 01:28:51.930 Rebeccah Goldware: Well, I'm may migrate appreciation to this group. There was a lot of stuff that was talked about. We've got a lot of work to do and 804 01:28:52.380 --> 01:29:02.970 Rebeccah Goldware: I probably won't see your talk to most of you. Until 2021 and be safe. We will. And if you need anything for me. You know where to find me. Otherwise, I look forward to working with you all, and 21 805 01:29:04.410 --> 01:29:05.430 Rebeccah Goldware: Holiday. Thank you. 806 01:29:06.690 --> 01:29:06.990 Noelle Hansen: Everyone