WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.000 Can I do that? 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:04.000 we, we real quick, Leo Mckenna. Are you guys Okay, typing in in the chat? Or do you need help? 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:09.000 There we go and 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:11.000 I can type your names in if you need me to 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:15.000 Thanks for 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:24.000 Thank you. And Rcc. 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:25.000 Well, I I I guess I can jump in. She is Shhhara. I'm a faculty in the business department. 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:39.000 Then I'll jump in at once 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:43.000 And I don't know if we have a student from Rcc. 00:00:43.000 --> 00:01:05.000 So we'll work on that and district office that leads, I think Mark and Chris 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:17.000 Thank you. Did I miss anybody? Okay, excellent. And we're gonna go a little bit out of order, cause I know why couple of people need to leave early. 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:25.000 So I do wanna roll through some of the I'm standing information 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:30.000 Recess or question in Arnold. I don't know what all of that is 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:36.000 I'm just asking, Do we have a classified professional representative for Rcc. 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:37.000 No. A a Csea appointed, classified professional. 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.000 Peggy. Saturday apples currently 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:43.000 You should have one from each college 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:47.000 That was somebody to no somebody else declined in the meeting, and now I can't remember who it is. 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:54.000 What I thought it was Tony Rizo, but no 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:55.000 Thank you. 00:01:55.000 --> 00:02:00.000 Jason Graham was supposed to be, I thought, the representative, but I think that's on your agenda to talk to Cassandra tomorrow about 2 Sorry I'm in the meeting. So I was. 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:01.000 Okay, Okay, thank you, Renee. That's what I was asking 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:12.000 If he had. Thank you. 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:16.000 Yeah, she and I are chatting soonish. So I'll I'll address that. 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:21.000 So thank you. And 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:33.000 approval, of minutes. So if we can look at, we had to table the March 8 min March 8 and May 10 are attached to the agenda that was sent. 00:02:33.000 --> 00:00:00.000 Out that was attached to the meeting. I don't know if people had a moment or wanna take a minute now to scroll through them and see if there are any comment changes, or if we if I can ask for a motion then we've got through 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:30.000 no Well, Hansen College Webmaster 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:55.000 Thank you. Brady. 00:02:55.000 --> 00:03:07.000 Thank you, Noel. 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:08.000 excuse me, I don't have the the agenda meeting 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:14.000 Is there any anybody who needs a minute, or has any questions, comments 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:15.000 The meeting. 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:23.000 Within within the attachment. The meeting announcement, it should be attached in there, and if not, let Reno and she can forward it to you. 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:33.000 Yeah, So I'm gonna ask if there are any maize 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:38.000 Or abstentions. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:43.000 Does that mean? T. Are you abstaining? Okay, I just something. 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:51.000 thank you, Noel. Go providing the file, And I'm Is it okay to assume that everybody else is a Yes. 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:55.000 Then got everybody turning their mics off. Excellent! Thank you. 00:03:55.000 --> 00:04:07.000 So minutes are approved. I'd like to move to the Rccd all guideline topic for conversation, and then we'll move into the college drafts. 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:08.000 I'm and that may take a little bit, but I wanna make sure we get to that before 2 weeks, because we have we have worked for her to take back to her college. 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:09.000 Just like, wait, I know that's on a topic. So yes. 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:10.000 Rebecca Just a reminder. There's 2 min sunny to be approved. 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:16.000 So there's March, and there's May, so I don't know if you need to take a vote for both 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:39.000 I know very exciting. 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:47.000 If there's anyone concerned with the motion B together for the 2 sets of minutes please let me know, and we can break that up. 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:56.000 Okay, we'll carry it as one. Then, Renee, can you go ahead and pull up the last screen version with the comments for the Rc. CD. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.000 All, and the last time we met we there was some back and forth discussion. 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:04.000 There were, I think, 2 outstanding questions on this. 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:14.000 I one was Ruth. I think you had mentioned it relative to disparage, and how we were gonna define that. 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.000 And the other was some questions, I think, relative to Hr. 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:25.000 This is not the final place. So where this will go through. 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:38.000 So I wanted to have that conversation about if we need another review and approving it. 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:46.000 In December, or if we're in a spot now where we think that this can move forward to, and I think the next step would be. 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:52.000 Districts are too big planning council because we would need another round of view. Again. 00:05:52.000 --> 00:06:13.000 This is for our Ccd. All, and then we'll talk about the college individuals, because each of you are in a different place on your list serves but I think every seems to be open to the conversation of engaging in the flow and what makes sense for everybody's Inbox 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:19.000 Hmm. 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:24.000 Oh, too far 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:29.000 Everybody can see R. C. CD. All 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.000 Are there 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:33.000 Renee. Can we keep it larger? I apologize. 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:40.000 Okay. 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:45.000 Is that is that a good size for everybody 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:51.000 Okay. And I think all of the comments have been addressed throughout lead. 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:56.000 Leaving these last 2. I don't know if everyone wants to take a moment. 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:59.000 Start from the top, and just make sure we haven't missed anything. 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:00.000 I'm 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:18.000 I just can't see. Thank thank you so much. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:27.000 I think, clarification for the the items where asterisk are, cause it looks like the comment is on Number 5. 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:33.000 But the asterisk address the moderator, and then I think there's like a second asterisk. 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:38.000 I'm not sure if we, if we want to have those, be like a footnote number one. 00:07:38.000 --> 00:08:05.000 But note number 2, just for clarity, and beyond that, if we're talking about, you know it's is it the moderator not going to supersede you know anything sent out by one of the bargaining, units. 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:10.000 Yeah, I think that's a good suggestion. No? Well, that would probably answer, because that was what Vc. 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:29.000 Few had said that she was concerned with that. The the contract language, so that this wouldn't and that's why we put that. 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:30.000 so both I I wouldn't use asterisk. 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.000 It does not supersede the negotiated use. So maybe your no while are you saying like, Keep the asterisk, or just add the asterisk language to number 5, 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:40.000 I would use footnotes so actually number them. So we're clear about what applies where, because we have one right after the list. 00:08:40.000 --> 00:09:01.000 Serve name, and then one right after asterisk, and I'm not sure which applies where, if we're using so, and then beyond that, because it's specifically talking about a moderator, in this case, address that to be the moderate moderators assigned to that list will not you know 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:11.000 over right, or filter any any messages sent on behalf of the barking unit, with an agreement with the district that has posting rights. 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:12.000 Whatever whatever language is used. 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:13.000 Okay. 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:24.000 At this point I'm going to be quiet until somebody has a comment that they'd like to contribute 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:30.000 Renee, did you capture that 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:31.000 That's why I'm recording the meeting. I'm gonna yeah, we're good. 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:36.000 Cool. That's fine. On on the asterisk. 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.000 It should. Csea shouldn't be listed there 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:42.000 Right. 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.000 It should just say collective bargaining agreements. 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:51.000 Period. 00:09:51.000 --> 00:10:00.000 Okay, Thank you. 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:01.000 Just a question, Rebecca. Was it just the collective bargaining agreements? 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.000 Products. 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:06.000 Or does the Senate also have the Okay. So it's just the bargaining agreement, the bargaining units 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:19.000 Well, the Senators, the Senates are sending out. The Senates don't have separate agreements, and what they're sending out by definition has to fit within these things cause they're right. 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:20.000 They're part of us. 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:24.000 Okay, Just checking okay. 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:28.000 And I'm sure you know Dspc. Mark may disagree. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:29.000 Well, I was just trying to avoid that. Us happy to do that. 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:35.000 No, it's far more fun to do it in a collective space. 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:36.000 Okay. 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:40.000 I. It's more fun for me. I don't take that from me 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:46.000 What what else? 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.000 So I think. At this point the group's gonna want to see this one more time. 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:53.000 Yes. 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:55.000 So we'll bring it back into December. 00:10:55.000 --> 00:11:02.000 clean, no comments, And then from there I hopefully move that forward to Dspc. 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:07.000 At whatever the next Dspc meeting is Okay, awesome. 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:16.000 Are we good with our Ccdo: Yeah, I'm moving into the college drafts and no. 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:29.000 Well, just because we like to go in alphabetical order I'd like to ask you to share renewal will pull them up, based on what we have of what we think are the list serves All 3 have different structures. 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:40.000 And reason. I'm gonna call on you to talk about Norcos when we get to that one, and I want to share these so that she knows what the draft of our Ccs looks like versus what these other colleges and we? 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:41.000 Can send them to you all. No, I don't know if yours has been through. 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:44.000 Okay. 00:11:44.000 --> 00:12:00.000 I the gauntlet, but I believe Ruth Doors has gone through all of shared governance, so we're all kind of in different places, so Noel, if you could kind of give a high level and share where we are and when you're run ready renee can pull the 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.000 the list up if you want, or you can do it. 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:24.000 yeah, Well, for renovate college. We do not have any moderated lists, so we have for ours 5 primary ones based on which group the users in which campus group so we have our Mv all which is not moderated I don't believe that that is the case 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:32.000 for Norfolk, but we had discussions prior and faculty association, and all that. 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:37.000 They weren't fans of having not moderated so as of right now. 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:41.000 The only moderation that occurs within Mv. All is individual employee. 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:58.000 Moderation. At request of a manager, and you know whatever moderated employee has a message that sent out that sent to one of the moderators on the list which would be myself and I didn't know from the presence office it's referred to their manager their supervisor and the 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:07.000 supervisor signs off on whether or not it can go through, or whether or not it needs to be adjusted or or declined, or anything like that. 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:23.000 So you know, we we keep our hands off of individual approval of that faculty includes all of our faculty, and whether fuller part time, management, is only for administration staff for any classified professionals, and then we have individual. 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:35.000 What's up, I would say. A sublist for basic divisions at at the college, whether it's a department there's also a student services that I don't think is on here. 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:36.000 lists serve. Those are actually not moderated by me, and I think that the those particular ones are moderated by either or the faculty or the administrator within that either that division or that department or that area and we haven't really established any guidelines, aside 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:56.000 You know how to run all this stuff 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:57.000 from as ascribing to for policy and regarding computer use things like that 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:58.000 Who manages the list participants is that you 00:13:58.000 --> 00:13:59.000 Yeah, Okay, is there? I noticed there's only one faculty list. 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:29.000 It's not portal versus full time. It's just everybody collective. 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:40.000 there are 2, so there's one full time. There's full time early on Yeah, full time are only on the Mv. 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:41.000 Faculty, but part-time are also on there, and if there's any communications that go to part, time only to decrease any confusion, because some things do not affect full time faculty. 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:49.000 Okay, got it. It wasn't scripted on portal 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:55.000 They have a separate list, serve that way. They're agile representative can communicate directly with them. 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:56.000 Okay, these these are all the Mv lists that are listed under the Rc Cdl. 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:04.000 Are these all the Mv lists 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:05.000 Umbrella. Well, that means they were created at district level. 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:06.000 What does that mean? 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:11.000 Yeah, locally, Okay? Sure. No. With the local. Yeah. But people can be manage their. 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:12.000 So if these, if there's others that were created at the college level, they won't be 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:13.000 That's management of their own list. Done 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:23.000 Okay, questions. For Noel Nbc 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:24.000 Correct. 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:49.000 Is there talk at all about notation or a digest, or sending the amount of emails that come out 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:50.000 no, not not really! No, I don't think that Mv. 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:51.000 Okay. 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:52.000 Okay. 00:15:52.000 --> 00:16:17.000 Yeah, any questions for Nbc. Norco does a lot more congratulations than Nbc. 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:18.000 Rebecca's like 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:23.000 Does a lot more so so I'm like there's a lot of communications come out of orco roof. 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:24.000 It. It's our it's our culture. It is 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:37.000 Yeah, it is. So. Re: please share, because your you're working at emphasis on this at with radium The marketing group has been back many, many moons. 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:44.000 Yeah, our our our lists. Serve Group bye. Is that one? 00:16:44.000 --> 00:17:03.000 Okay, yes, sorry. Our lists of proposal. It was probably the first one to get us started, and really what it was this is: Try to to like, you're saying, Rebecca, Is to try to minimize how much put traffic you're seeing in the emails and things. 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:24.000 Like that. But we actually have an implemented this. The list of proposal went through our entire shared governance, and we approved it into 2020 and and then, it didn't get implemented so the only actual lists serve that we have is, our Nc: classified pro 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:45.000 viscerf. Everything else is still, nor nor fact, nor this there still be The old is, we haven't moved over and separated now. We did have conversations about moderation, and the only lists serve that we approve to move to be a moderated one would be the I think it would be 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:50.000 the President listserve, And I think, Okay, I can remember correctly. 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:53.000 My goodness has been so long, everything else wouldn't be moderated. 00:17:53.000 --> 00:18:10.000 the same conversation with our college wasn't too excited about having a moderator, and so they thought if we separated and created all of these different lists that that would actually minimize all of the we'd move all of the announcements to somewhere else so there's, where the congratulations would 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:14.000 be and you wouldn't have it in our, and see all categories. 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:23.000 So that that was the goal. Let's let's put them in in different subcategories in that way that minimizes people can subscribe and there's only if it's an employee. 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:27.000 Lister. So management faculty those ones. You can't opt out. 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:32.000 But all the other ones you could. So then, if you felt like I don't want to be part of the announcement group. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:35.000 I you know I can opt out, and then I don't have to receive those emails. 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:40.000 So that was kind of the goal behind it. But the implementation hasn't happened. 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:47.000 Probably something we should follow back up on, and it might have just again with the pandemic hitting at the right time. 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.000 we just didn't come back and address 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:54.000 wasn't there also conversation at like the district, and the it level that they wanted to use a different system. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:19:07.000 yes, yes, they Then they're they're talking about, you know, not wanting to create these these lists and us to do them on I can't remember now what they and then we could create our own, and then. 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:13.000 office. 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:16.000 Well, they would be dynamic at that point, like Miss Serve. 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:34.000 Technology in general is an outdated technology. It's not dynamic, and if you're using this within the same organization, it makes more sense to use a dynamic directory but then, we go down that hole and it ties to the erp, right like there's always some other project that it seems 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:46.000 to tie back, to Doro hasn't been able to move forward because the technology upgrades that were going to be made, and then pandemic And right, so, there's there's a stumbling block that seemingly is holding this up in lots of places so I 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.000 don't know if this now has to. The Dorcas specifically because you have a breakdown of various lists. 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:55.000 We would. So Yes, I think that that's something 00:19:55.000 --> 00:20:19.000 I don't know if the erp changes what this looks like, but that's not happening tomorrow. 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:38.000 can I have a question technology question? So you know how Ruth was saying that they're trying to strategize and kind of group him so that people who want to subscribe to one of the list but mine mine this is just from a user point of view mine all goes to color first and I have to go fetch for 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:47.000 it so, even if it says faculty or revolver, whatever I have to go fetch for all the messages is that this technology that we are using right now? 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:48.000 Is it possible to break it down even to like? Maybe a headline that is specific. 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:49.000 And so if we could make a meaningful impact on people's, email fatigue, you know, before Erp comes on board whenever that is, and we can shift to a dynamic system then fine, So thanks, Ruth absolutely. 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:54.000 Right. 00:20:54.000 --> 00:21:00.000 So if this is like health, then you know, like, or maybe regulations or parking. 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:04.000 Oh, the answer is, Yes, we're choosing a 100%. 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:10.000 We are choosing how we distribute information, and not in a deck. 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:11.000 The format. We send emails whenever we want, instead of what would be manageable for the recipients. 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:17.000 Yes. 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:20.000 And the audience receiving it. So we just look at it differently. 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:21.000 We did have the con, we 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:26.000 Huh! 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:27.000 Hmm. 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:36.000 We did have a conversation when we were doing this about just it inbox control, and and I'm sure no Wells probably understands all of the technology. 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:42.000 Better But how you can set the rules to say emails from this can go to this folder emails from here. 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.000 And so they were talking about. Do we really need to do this? 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:51.000 We could simply do that. And so, you know, and this was just a suggestion at the time for us to do it. And who knows? 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:52.000 Like you're saying Rebecca maybe with the new erp, maybe things change. 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:53.000 lots of other places do a weekly digest, or if you're not interested in x, you don't get X 00:21:53.000 --> 00:22:07.000 Hmm. 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:19.000 Right. So what the next step is for Norco? I'm not sure, because of the technology conversation, what the next step is for Nbc is to go through the process. 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:24.000 we did have a draft of the Rcc. 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:32.000 guidelines pulled together to give you a starting place that we can send you. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:37.000 I don't think it's helpful to have a discussion in this group of it, but we can send you something. 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:45.000 So I just don't know. I I want you to review it and have your feedback, you know. 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:52.000 Maybe via can help you take a look at it from a management perspective, and then we can help clean it up. 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.000 But then, it's gotta go through whatever process at Rcc. 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:59.000 Makes the most sense, and I don't know what that is, and then we can take it back up through this group as part of the just like we did with the district branding guide. 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:18.000 yeah. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:19.000 Hmm. 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:22.000 Right? We had the district branding guide. Then all of the colleges took their through, and now we have 3 branding guides that sit underneath to provide guidance and support for I all of our all of our staff, regardless of what level, so that's what i'm I'm hopeful for 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:30.000 I think I need see is help in it, because I think we're kind of reliant on Peggy right so I don't know where we are. 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:31.000 I don't know what even to to talk to you about who we get this, you know, Guideline approved. 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:40.000 so 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:41.000 That's like the I could. That's a senate like you have to take it through, cause I don't believe Rcc. 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:46.000 Within within our college. 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:47.000 Has a marketing committee, so I don't know if it goes to the president's office, and then goes to because there has to be agreement on on the administrative. 00:23:47.000 --> 00:24:03.000 yeah, I know there's 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:04.000 of course. 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:12.000 Side before we take it to the good right to the faculty to go through the your government side, so we can talk about it. But it'll be something we want your help to carry through absolutely 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:25.000 Go ahead. Chris! 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:31.000 Okay, So maybe the you and I can have a conversation offline and we'll keep moving it forward. 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:33.000 I know it's gonna take up a little bit of time. 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:39.000 But, Ruth, when did you guys start this? 2018, 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:40.000 Okay, okay, Okay, Okay, I'm just I knew it was Premi, but I just didn't know how many months. 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:46.000 20, I think. No, at 2019 I mean. I don't think it took us that long, but probably about a year 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.000 Premi. It was so. I'm really yeah. 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:57.000 Premi: yeah, I really appreciate moving this forward because it provides the structure. 00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:58.000 I, as we continue moving through this, so any questions, comments on, I'm gonna list serves in general awesome. 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:19.000 right. I see Rcc. Does have a marketing resources committee, so that may be the first place to start. I know that's where Peggy was talking with that group 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.000 yeah, I actually should put some context on this. This is the acronym guide. 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:31.000 this is something that I my appreciation to Peggy and Ruth, because and Noel, actually you may have sent in a few of these. 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:35.000 We have a very long list now of acronyms. 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:36.000 Chris, can you provide kind of a high level of the writing guide, and what we're going to be trying to do? 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:44.000 Are they gonna bring that one up so we can 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:51.000 Sure I actually might invite Robert to talk a little bit about it as well. 00:25:51.000 --> 00:26:04.000 originally. When this was designed or drafted, the the writing guide was a writing I for people that were communicating with outdoor or outside agencies, such as the press. 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:15.000 So when writing, a press release, or when writing an announcement that went out to the general public, This was a guidelines for writing those messages. 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:22.000 It was not intended to be a writing guide for all things produced at the college. 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:35.000 So it's not intended to be a faculty writing, style, guide, or or something that we'd use specifically for marketing th. Those are smaller audiences that usually we have. 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:46.000 that we usually have professionals working in those capacities, and so they have their own set of guidelines and rules that they use for that. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:27:15.000 so this was intended for the most part, for those types of announcements and press releases, that being said, I think it's expanded in usage and a lot of people rely on it to tell them common things like wind to capitalize district or college when to use an 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:26.000 no, I think you've touched on all the important parts, you know, 90 90% of its usage is really for media relations and and so forth. 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.000 So No, I think you I mean I think it's pretty self explanatory, but anyone's got questions. 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:38.000 acronym, and how how to use that throughout the document. Robert, do you want to say anything more about the guide itself? 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:46.000 And then the acronym guide is is actually an appendix or appendix to this writing style. 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:53.000 Guide, and that was suggested by this group. We had Norco and Rcc. 00:27:53.000 --> 00:28:02.000 Submit list that they had worked on previously. We combined those lists into one acronym guide and that's what you see here. 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:19.000 again, the acronyms are things that would be specific to our district, so you might have something like the Nsf. 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:20.000 no, it can not. Nsf. Is always the National Science Foundation that happened yesterday. 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:29.000 Which could be the National Space Federation, or it could 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:34.000 Just just saying there may be other acronyms are used in other industries that wouldn't be reflected here. 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:41.000 That's what. That's what my point is. So I don't know if people had a chance to read through this. 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:42.000 We've sent it. We sent it after the last. The Mcc. 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:43.000 So, but the Endsf is always the National Science Foundation 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:56.000 The good news. With this and many. The reason that we're doing these things structured in a guide, is so that at any point this committee, which is meant to be a standing ongoing committee we can bring things back so unless there's concern we'll go ahead and include these 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:26.000 things They will be part of these ongoing toolkits that are available on the website for anybody who comes in because we're not the only ones who will utilize and benefit, from these resources So if there's a new acronym cause there will be I we can just slip it 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:40.000 I have a question, Rebecca, so I I appreciate. 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:48.000 I think whomever Chris Rebecca whomever added our C Pros abbreviation. Thank you very much. 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:55.000 I would ask, though, if you could remove the parentheses of staff, This is this is just an abbreviation on the acronym. 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:56.000 Guide. If we were going to add anything in the writing guide to where you want to have it. 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:57.000 in there and go from there. So Bruce: Yeah, yeah. 00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.000 Sure, Renee, you got that Well, it's in that. I don't have to ask them anymore. 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:10.000 Definition we can help with the definition. But I think if for the acronym C pros just should be classified professionals, no print 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:11.000 Thank you, but thank you for adding that cause. I think that just like today, I think, as we start to use that acronym people are going to go what is that? 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:18.000 In the recording, we'll get it. Yeah. 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.000 And we want to be more helpful on having them understand that. 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:20.000 Absolutely yeah, anything or else. Acronym: we're gonna come back to the writing Id when we get down to the toolkit in a few minutes of building the list of other things that we need to work on collectively. 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:26.000 As a group. So at this point I'd like to move to updates, and I'd like to go with Rcc. 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:34.000 First for timing So, chiefia, What what updates do We have Nothing. 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.000 There's nothing happening 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:53.000 Are either of you involved in this committee that Chris mentioned. 00:30:53.000 --> 00:31:05.000 I I have no update sorry 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:06.000 yeah, maybe yeah, our update is that we can work more together. 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.000 No. 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:08.000 I'm guessing, not based on okay done. We'll have to find out about that 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:14.000 I like it 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:15.000 I I did, actually was invited and attended their last meeting. 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:16.000 yes, yes, thank you. 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.000 How did it go? Do an update for 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.000 So it was fun. It was great mostly was talking about their brand guide, and you know specifically what the process you know, kind of trying to define a process for for how logo and and visual identity, and as well as the process for additions and changes to that 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:28.000 Good, excellent. We'll have to get you to hooked into that that other group. 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:51.000 Thanks, mark questions, comment for Rcc: Since we're going. 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.000 okay, I think that marketing group, if I'm not mistaken, I think the marketing resources group and Rcc. 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:58.000 Oh, go ahead! Chris! 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:09.000 Is is only like 3, maybe 4 people, and it was originally set up by Chip as an advisory group when they were doing their marketing plans. 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:10.000 And so yeah, and I don't. I don't think it was elevated to a committee status or a subcommittee status. 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:11.000 Okay. 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:36.000 Yeah, that's cool. And we'll follow up no problems. 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.000 let's say we'll let you take this one. 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:43.000 Oh, I know we've got so much really good stuff in in all of our areas. 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:55.000 I was just telling Ashley's day, though her people are just rocking it with their cur education, marketing, putting flyers, brochures, but also, you know, the outreach that they're doing really getting the message out in the community about career. 00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:01.000 Education. They have a job Speaker Series video series that they have up on our Youtube channel. 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.000 So they're they're really kind of putting that out. 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:19.000 So we've kind of started incorporating outreach, really to share out in our meeting, so that we're incorporating that as part of what we're doing and we're really moving into that not only enrollment marketing but retention we're trying to showcase student life 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:29.000 and what makes Marco College special. We're really engaging our students with showing a lot of student photos of activities showing campus life because we want to entice them that why would they want to come here? 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:48.000 This is a great college, And so we're increasing that we're also increasing our organic marketing with putting out about classes that are open, available more information touting financial aid, tutoring and that the fact that our classes are flexible they can do hybrid online or in 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.000 person, we're gonna try to increase some more student testimonials. 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:58.000 We worked on that last end of the curtail of end of the spring with Chris getting some student testimonials to put out. 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:16.000 So we're really gonna try to increase that, because we feel like students talking about their experiences really resonates with other students And then we're really kind of putting some information out about some of our clubs and some of our resources working on a unity, zone video that talks 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.000 about the our students in that area, our dreamers and our LGBT. 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:24.000 Q; Students so really kind of showcasing with our brand pillars. 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:33.000 Our student communities, and then still not forgetting the fact that close and affordable is a a really strong message, and every student that I talked to and asked them that question. 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.000 It's always as close to home, and it was portable. 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:45.000 So some of those things that we're doing we're trying to engage our students to, really that, And we are gonna be working on some upcoming videos. 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.000 We did We have a lot of swag now with our come as you are. 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:55.000 Campaign that Chris and and Mark are kind of heading over there with the district, but we've got some swag on our campus. 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.000 We're really kind of starting to push those things that we have a video. 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:14.000 We we've just put now and then and then we're gonna start doing some marketing with some of our career education programs. Ashley and I were just working today on getting scheduling such to start working on manufacturing and some of the other programs so really trying to get our message 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:20.000 out about. You know. Why Why should students pick us? Why should They come here and and and supporting that? 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:21.000 Yes. Apply now in one now, but telling them why and so we're. We're. 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.000 since we're going backwards. Noco here you get to. We'll get to stay backwards in the alphabet 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:23.000 Thank you. Actually, No, you can 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:36.000 Okay, Brady. 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:37.000 we're killing it. 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.000 It just sounds like it, I mean, when I when I come on campus. 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:41.000 No, everything's going to act and 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:42.000 It's lovely, so that people are happy 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:59.000 What else? Anybody questions for Norco 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.000 sure. Just a few updates, I think, very similar to what Narco is doing. 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.000 A lot of a focus on our marketing outreach, but and really trying to manage. 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:22.000 you know, the not only the admissions funnel, but really thinking about the retention piece as well We're continuing our work with the interact group in terms of helping us with our digital marketing campaigns, the analytics have been very strong to date and we've seen an 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.000 uptick in our in our enrollment for taking our great weeks classes. 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.000 We also did a lot of target outreach for those classes as well. 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:35.000 So I do know that the outreach people have been, you know, in full force, trying to get you know, that message out to everybody about the value of Nbc. 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:40.000 That we're in your backyard, and you know this is an untapped treasure, and if you forgot about us, we're here. 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:45.000 If you didn't know about us, we're here, and if you used to be with us, we want you back that sort of thing. 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:55.000 One of the things we wanna do. We know. Aesthetics really matters, and on our campus there's not a lot of sort of visuals around students student life and the and the like. 00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:10.000 So our marketing group met this morning. We've talking about developing a series of banners for different sort of seasons, if you will, across the campus that highlights, you know, the programs we have really directing students in this sort of sense of belongingness directing them into campus and then have 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.000 the banners change in the message. Change as they get to campus. 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:17.000 We also talked about signage on campus and doing a better job of directing students where to go. 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:22.000 And we're gonna be in the midst of a major renovation, And we have had to spread people across campus. 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:26.000 So making sure students know where to go, how to get to their engagement center. 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:40.000 So we've been talking about doing that. Some of the empty spaces that we have along campus along some of the fencing to do, some long banners that really sort of tell students stories and provide that information all sort of under the the umbrella. 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.000 Of How do you get on? Stay on and get off the path? 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:59.000 kind of thing. So we've been doing that. We've also and work with the the folks at college app. And we ask them for a full download of our data, so we can start to do more a targeted outreach particularly focused on adult students and individuals who have 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.000 expressed interest in and and career fields that we offer. 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.000 And how do we do a better job of of getting outreach to them? 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:20.000 And really also to in in our work with, interact also, we've we've done some work in terms of taking a look at the collateral that we've already developed, and really thinking about what we need to do moving forward so as we're having more events on campus wanting to get photos 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:30.000 of students that don't have mass sign. Cause a lot of what we currently have is older, so wanting to do that and take advantage of a lot of the events, or we have a lot of you know a heavy student life on. 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.000 Campus So those are number of the things we're doing. 00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:42.000 and like I said, our marketing group has just been reconvened, and so we've already got some projects on on deck, and we have references from across campus to make sure that. 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:51.000 You know, all of the different areas have their chance to input to make sure that we're presenting our face as best we can. 00:38:51.000 --> 00:39:01.000 thanks, for too 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:16.000 Oh, I different code. I did forget one thing. We also have our 3D tours that are finally done incomplete, and so we do have a Youtube clip of those of those, and they're gonna be incorporated into our website. As well, So that's another way for students to be 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:17.000 easier easier for them to to learn about the camps without having to physically get here and do that. 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:32.000 If there's imagery great 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:38.000 That's awesome. Good. If there are images that you want, and you don't have, I'm you know. 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:43.000 Let Chris's team is so that we can and get potatoes done for you. 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:57.000 So that's great. Yeah, questions for Nbc 00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:14.000 sure. Well, first let me just give a a quick update on some of the marketing efforts that are happening right Now, I think this group knows about The 16. Page brochures that we're doing actually in the case of ours You see this time it's and it's a 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:34.000 24 page brochure. So Norco is about 95% complete with their 16 pager It's expected to go to press next week, so it can mail and hit doors mid november just in time for open enrollment for both winter. 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:40.000 In the spring. Yeah. Rcc's 24 page booklet. 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:47.000 Is it a similar stage by 95% complete? And that particular book clicked. 00:40:47.000 --> 00:41:09.000 We're still determining what the mailing list will be if it'll be the edm that goes out to every door or if it's gonna be a more refined list essentially when you send to every door direct meal, because you're mass producing these booklets, your cost per 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:17.000 piece on printing is way down, and your cost for the postage, and even the mail prep is way down because you don't have to in anything. 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:23.000 You don't have to bundle them. They go in bundles of 100 by carrier route, and that's it. 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:39.000 So the cost to process those is is really low. When we compared that with a targeted list for the 24 pager for the Eddm version at 135,000 for Rcc. 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:51.000 It was about 40 cents each for the direct mail on a targeted list, with the shorter print run, and and doing it with the nonprofit bulk rate. 00:41:51.000 --> 00:42:01.000 Your Cost goes up to almost a dollar a piece, so you can mail a 135,000 with Ebdm or mail. 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.000 50,000, with nonprofit bulk, and it will cost you the same. 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:12.000 But you'll get more than almost triple the exposure by doing it with Eddm for the same amount of money. 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:32.000 So if you go even more select, if you, if you really dive into the numbers and you want to use the algorithm that they've used at the Gia campus app, then or college, app, you can refine the list. 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:54.000 You can say, Well, I want people that have scored a 6 or above on their intent to start college, and you can get the good list down the higher the higher the likelihood that they're going to a test going to attend attend college the smaller the list right so and We ran a list of at the 00:42:54.000 --> 00:43:04.000 55% or 55 score, and came up with a list of 48,000 for Rcc. 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:22.000 In their service area. So it's about the same to mail that as it was for the home 35, so they would have to go to a higher, maybe 60, or score a 70 on that likely to attend college list and that and that would make it make thank you so might make sense, to go 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:33.000 with the smaller list, although in this time where we're facing huge shortages in our enrollment, getting out to a bigger list is often a good idea. 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:50.000 So anyways, we're still. We're still deciding on which list to use, and how many to send out with that the brochure itself is about 95% complete for Marino Valley. 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:58.000 They decided to postpone that mailing to the spring, and so that book hasn't been built yet. 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:25.000 but that's the plan on that one. And then for extended learning, we have the content coming this week for the extended learning, for winter and spring terms, and we're gonna be sending that out to the full circulation edm list and that'll go out the first week of december 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:33.000 so a month or 3 to 4 weeks after the ones from the colleges go out, extended learning, brochure will go out. 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:37.000 Then then we're this month in November. 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:42.000 Well, this right now, we're planning on a postcard that will be designed for each college. 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:50.000 that is our re-engagement or reactivation postcard. 00:44:50.000 --> 00:45:01.000 Yeah, the idea behind that one is that we look on our own database at students that attended one of our colleges in the last 5 years. 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:20.000 But haven't attended in the last 6 months, and haven't earned a degree yet or certain, so that list for sending out the postcard to encourage them to reengage to become activated and enroll again, and that postcard will go out in november toward the end of 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:26.000 November to that specific list. We're estimating in about 40,000 total. 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:33.000 Now that that list will go out to 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:40.000 The one after that is our 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:55.000 The the idea of personally so people that were that have been in enrolled in the fall that we wanna make sure enroll in the winter or spring. 00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:12.000 So we have that continuance. We're sending an email an email and a postcard out to those people in December encouraging them to yeah, and we're using some algorithms to figure out which ones are likely to continue And which ones aren't but we're sending you 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:32.000 that, second postcard, we'll go out. And in December, and then we have 2 more postcards that are planned for after the first of the year, one on financial aid yeah one on going out to all alumni that also includes that a prompt or a encouragement for them 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:38.000 to encourage their friends to go to their, to go to their first college. 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:51.000 we also have a social media campaign that will begin, and November about mid November we have a limited budget on that. 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:55.000 So we're we're gonna be targeting just our service area. 00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:06.000 And just the specific service areas for each college and and the ads will go out based on the colleges, campaigns, Norcos come as you are. 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:12.000 Campaign, Nbc. And Rcc. Rccs. Is still yeah. 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:21.000 The new campaign has hasn't been fully developed yet, so we don't know what that is yet And Nbc we're still working on that one. 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:25.000 unless Mark has more information than I do right now. 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:44.000 I also wanted to give you kind of a an update on upcoming guidelines that this group will be working on the next one on our list is the social media guidelines we've been collecting social media guidelines. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:55.000 From other community colleges in California. We're compiling those, and then we're comparing it to a booklet that Nope. 00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:01.000 Sorry, So So forms You have the links to the forms. 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:16.000 There for photography, requests, or publicity requests, and for design requests Anybody in the district can use those to request those from our district marketing team. 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:34.000 If a project, that's requested through those forms belongs at the college instead of the instead of the district, will forward those requests onto the appropriate people at the colleges, for example, if there's a video, request, for Norco college but it. 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:42.000 Comes in through our photography request, we would forward that to Norco College and have them take care of that. 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:49.000 those forms are already in use. We've already sent out an email about them. 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:58.000 We have not included the on our website yet, because we're still in kind of a not beta, but alpha testing mode right now. 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:02.000 we're just doing some fine tuning and tweaks. 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:16.000 The other problem with the other challenge that we have is that those forms, when we do a request, it's not tied electronically or digitally to the printing services. 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:24.000 So people are having to fill out a a design request, and then also a print request, and we're trying to make it so that can be seen. 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:31.000 But at this point it's 2 different functions that still have to happen I don't know, Mark. 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:41.000 Did you have any anything, or does anybody have any questions on those forms? 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:42.000 I don't have a question Chris, but I know you said if you got a video request that you will refer to the appropriate person. 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:58.000 we might be able to answer 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:22.000 It's certainly an option, and we'd love to to help in any way that we can on design records, especially for those colleges that don't have a full team built out if they don't have a a designer specifically they could do the project then of course, they could that would come to the 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:36.000 and I would just add that as everybody here starts to to use those forms, we'd love feedback and anything you see here like don't like. 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:43.000 or linked, I think, in the agenda. But if anybody needs to know where they are, we can send them out. 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:44.000 So questions on the forms or the general update Chris Gate on the marketing 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:58.000 District 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:09.000 Okay, click couples with project. Okay, pardon me, Clickup is a project management software tool that we're using. 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:17.000 It's an online software tool, we're able to assign our design projects to specific designers within our department. 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:28.000 And then those designers, once they're assigned a project we're able to contact and work with anybody requesting a project directly. 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:39.000 it's also it allows us to keep track of how we're doing on deadlines, how we're doing on collaboration with other departments. 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:48.000 So it tracks all of that for us, and and we're able to see how many days, or weeks, it takes to finish projects and run reports on that. 00:51:48.000 --> 00:52:18.000 So very useful tool. It's not one that you see from your vantage point, but whenever you spill out a a print request that requires some design or a publicity request or a photography. Request those projects all get entered into the clickup system 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:29.000 questions, comment 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:39.000 Okay, I don't think there are any other district updates that may be something good. 00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:51.000 I'm so as we get to the end of the agenda, I think the the next meeting is on there is already scheduled for December. 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.000 There We're gonna keep a running list of completed items. 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.000 Just so. People know where they're at, and they're easily accessible. 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:09.000 But it's fun to keep a list of things you've already done so, but the future items we really should talk about and build out of what it is that's needed. 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:17.000 it could be at the college level that we there's maybe an umbrella that just says refer to, and then have that conversation. 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:34.000 Chris had mentioned the social media guidelines. I know there's been some work that's been done at Reno Valley around that space Logo creation has been talked about and at various colleges and various times so we wanna this Collective we'd like help in setting kind of that 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:51.000 overarching structure, so that the colleges can then maneuver accordingly within it, and then know what the path is to get it to, if it needs to go to board for approval because it is a likeness of our institution so, we have to think about how we move it through the processing 00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:55.000 system, at this point. We've got a couple of items, but I wanted to kind of open it up. 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.000 I kind of for a brainstorming prefrontal and just. 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:17.000 Not everybody contributes to what we should be thinking about across the next, let's say, year to 3 years of what we wanna make sure we have to do, list, to do And then I if we've got, to have time talk about priority order, and what we want to task staff with to hit first to bring back to this 00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:45.000 committee to keep us moving through 23 and beyond. 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:51.000 what happens when you give us a blank slate, Rebecca. 00:54:51.000 --> 00:55:06.000 so I I'll throw I'll throw I'll throw a question out, since I'll be that kid in class, so I know that we have all of our individual causes and things are working on I know that there's support from the district but in terms of thinking about our collective district how do 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:16.000 we talk about the district in terms of the 3 colleges, instead of us talking about our 3 individuals, And what is that gonna look like, or what can it look like moving forward Because for me? 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:19.000 The way I think about it from this region. These are our students. Collectively. 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:26.000 They make decisions based on schedules, their life circumstances where they're going to go, They do have a home institution, but I could have an Rcc. 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.000 Student who's wholly at Nbc. For one term or more. 00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.000 So I'm just curious how we're gonna start to do this. 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:37.000 So it the collective R. Ccb. With our distinctive identities. 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:42.000 But how do we sort of help that value, either for all of us, as we're each also trying to do the same thing. 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.000 so part of that is in the part of that is in the messaging. 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:50.000 I I wanna hey? Out beyond that with this group, and look at structure. 00:55:50.000 --> 00:56:02.000 Like. We have no general guiding principles in any space to provide classified professionals in this specific instance, with kind of those swim lanes. 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:12.000 People have asked me, What what's the procedure on, and then fill in the blank Logos as a big one, and there's no overall structure to even get to the conversation. 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:26.000 Of how do we allow the individual identities of the 3 colleges to develop while still having one governing board that manages our or likeness and messaging that goes out? 00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:40.000 There is absolutely a way to do it only because I watch 10 uc campuses and 20 plus, you know, Csu's do it because there are overarching programmatic policy procedure guidelines, whatever the right? 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.000 Word is So that we don't get lost in the nuance. 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:47.000 But we don't have a lot of that, so like we could. 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:52.000 We could get lost in the list service, and that becomes a thing, and we should put that down. 00:56:52.000 --> 00:57:07.000 but one of the questions that came up early on was putting pronouns on business cards and because it wasn't formalized anywhere, people didn't in a at the classified professional level We're like Yes, we want to, do it no we're not add to where does it say what do we 00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:17.000 print, like those nuanced questions come up because there's no path to answer the question of, How do we approve this? 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:20.000 So that's why this committee didn't exist 3 years ago. 00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:32.000 We didn't have. So that's where these So I agree with you, Mark, that conversation should come up, But I think part of that conversation should come up with the college level of how we want to be perceived. 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:39.000 And then you all tell us i. E. Chris, at the district level as you're marketing things. 00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:42.000 These are the messaging, these are the nuances that we want to focus on. 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:52.000 These are the programmatic areas, and then we can pull the what seemingly appear to be disparate points together to tie the bow like. 00:57:52.000 --> 00:58:03.000 I I think we can do that, but I'm I'm more concerned about making sure the people who come after us have a foundation to continue building upon. 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:04.000 As opposed to trying to recreate the wheel. 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:08.000 hmm. 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:17.000 I like your question, Mark, because we've had this conversation a lot like at the district strategic planning level about the district being the the colleges. 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:22.000 And how do we build that from there? And then? The district office supporting? 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:26.000 Whereas we've historically had it the opposite way. 00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:36.000 but I think also, too, maybe the fact that we don't all get together like some of the people that you know were working like, How, mark you guys had some Gosh! 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:41.000 You shared some really good ideas like we don't actually all get together organically. 00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:48.000 And to say, Okay, Well, the people at the colleges why don't we talk and kind of, say, okay, what is it worth thinking? What are some ideas? 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:56.000 What are you guys doing? What could we be doing And like we, we're kind of still working separately at our 3 individual colleges. 00:58:56.000 --> 00:59:01.000 But maybe that needs to be a little bit more kind of. 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:09.000 Maybe we need to meet more We need to have, you know, brainstorming sessions that maybe we can bring to this group kind of Then we wouldn't be on the spot, Rebecca. 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.000 We'd actually have some suggestions for you. But we've not had time to sit down and talk together. 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:33.000 The the the people in the areas. I only see no while when I come to these meetings, maybe once in a while, I see an email, But you know, there's an opportunity where we could start having conversations across the colleges and working more together, to kind of even just to get ideas and into start 00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:43.000 figuring out, Where are the gaps like? What Rebecca saying, Where do where do we need? 00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:44.000 Yeah. Rcc: Recently did a branding survey, didn't they? 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:48.000 Every time, and that's what it seems to happen. 00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:49.000 Would that be something that we could have done? I did. Yeah, So was that. 00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:58.000 It was for Rcc: Yeah. 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:09.000 Chris, let's talk about it. I have 0 idea what the cost on that would be, and you know, it all comes down to the dollars. 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:13.000 well, even if it's you know, let's go ahead and and get a framework in place. 01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:14.000 Of when the questions we want to ask, but then have office of institutional effectiveness at each college handle. 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:19.000 And you know we can actually talk it out, and then come to this group with suggestions and ideas 01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:23.000 Noel. It would that, sir, was that survey, for to the students 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:27.000 I think that there's merit in doing both. Staff. 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:35.000 I I mean I I would like to to kind of sometimes, and and we looked at this from the equity audit. 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:44.000 When the findings come back we tend to talk to ourselves, and it would be really good to hear from the students to kind of what what actually is resonating with them. 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:49.000 What is what are we doing? That's working what's not working, and and our messaging. 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:53.000 And I think one of the big things we talked about at our marketing committee is with this equity audits. 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:56.000 We're talking about being equity-minded. 01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:04.000 What does that mean in our areas? How does it? And and and maybe that's something this group could actually help us with, and figuring out, What do we do? 01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:21.000 How does it? How does that? X, being equity, minded impact our messaging our visuals are things and guidance to actually help us all to implement something and not just saying, we're equity minded So I don't know sorry mark 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:22.000 We do too. 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.000 yeah, so we do. We do a an annual technology survey here, and it goes out to both employees and students. 01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.000 And it's handled by office of institutional effectiveness done in Microsoft Forums. 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:29.000 So there's no real associated costs other than you know. 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:45.000 We do too. 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:49.000 You're right. No? Well, we do that, too, and we do ask some questions amazingly enough, when we get the responses. 01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:53.000 Students say that it the best way they hear about things is their student. 01:01:53.000 --> 01:02:03.000 Email And and then everybody at the college goes. No, no, they're not checking this to an email But I think a lot of actual students are actually forwarding their call email to their personal email. 01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:12.000 So that's probably when they're saying that. But yes, I I do. You're right. 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:19.000 you know. I think this is a great discussion, and as a district we participated in the Lever survey. 01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:25.000 That was just done, and it will be reported in the November. 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:37.000 Hi. Board of trustees meeting what was found. As a result of that beaver survey, and then we're also participating right now in the media preferences. 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:46.000 Survey that is nationwide It's a nationwide survey, but it's also done on the local level. 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:50.000 So we get the local results. We get state results, and we get national results. 01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:55.000 And there's about a 100 100 plus questions on that. 01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:01.000 Tell us a lot about what the students prefer for media and how they like to get the messaging and stuff. 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:10.000 So those 2 efforts are are ongoing. I I really like the the idea of serving the and finding out. 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:17.000 Maybe even expanding beyond branding and and talk about the reputation of the colleges and go out. 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:32.000 Yeah, talk to the community and and find out the perception of no, how we're perceived as institutions. 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:40.000 Well, I just wanna question. So you guys just spent 5 min talking about surveying Our students. 01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:49.000 You know our students leave? Do we ever survey our high school students on how they want to find out about the colleges? 01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:55.000 I mean, we're targeting a group that we already have. 01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:01.000 We really need to be looking at the next generation of college goers. 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:06.000 What are, How are they going to assume their information and gather their information? 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:24.000 So. I mean, I I would really suggest that we look at surveying sophomore, juniors and seniors at our high schools to find out how they want to get information about college and programs over surveying our current students there. 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:28.000 Are! They're you know. They're already a customer. 01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:29.000 We've got to look at the next generation of customers. 01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:32.000 We do the same thing. We use Microsoft forms. And so it's not costing us anything either. 01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:43.000 So I mean, if we're gonna put money into something, I think we should look at our to our high school students to find out how they want to get their messaging 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:52.000 Who? Well, sure you can do both. You just said it doesn't cost you anything, but you know my my bottom. 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:57.000 My point is your surveying a student that maybe be graduating in June. 01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.000 Nothing against that student. But do we really care how they want to get their messaging? 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.000 They're not going to get anymore. They're moving on 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:08.000 Would we devote? Robert? I said, could we do both 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:30.000 Good that I mean messaging, sure, but messaging and students, their student experience to me, or 2 separate things, I mean, if you want to find out if they got, you know, they were able to access tutoring and financial aid and and all that's that's fine, But but my point, is 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:39.000 as I mean. I look at this as a business. We need customers to come in in and get our services. 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.000 That's not good to be from the people that you currently have in your business. 01:05:42.000 --> 01:06:01.000 Area. It's it's our softball juniors and seniors, you know, and I'm not sure how 1516, 1718 year old individuals today want to get their information It might be different than a 22 year old. 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:25.000 So my point is, I mean, and I talked to Mark and Chris about the We need to go back to the old days of going to the high schools and interacting with the students at the high school level and So forth, and we've we've really, have lost that in the last 8 to 10 years 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:35.000 And so forth. So I mean I just wanna make a point that I really think we need to reach out to our future customers to find out how they want to be reached. 01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:36.000 It might be different than what our 20 to 24 year olds are saying. 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:41.000 Maybe they're 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:46.000 Yeah, I think there's value in both Robert. To be honest, I mean, we're looking at enrollment, but we're also looking at retention. 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:52.000 You know we've gotta you know. We talk about this at the college a lot that we've got a funnel, and we're, you know. 01:06:52.000 --> 01:07:03.000 We get them, in and then they're leaving at the back door, and we're not keeping them and then we have to go get more new ones, and then they leave and so it it's it's got to be both it's got to be it's got to be an enrollment and retention but also 01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:04.000 we have a lot of returning students that come back, and they want to change their careers And so I mean, you know, we've got, you know, the all of our students aren't just coming in from from high school. 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:13.000 that's true. 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:14.000 But it is really good to I even ask our current ones like, Why did you choose to come here and and maybe find out why they made those those choices? 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:22.000 Bye. 01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:32.000 Well, no, I, and and that's fine. But the same time those students you talk about that are leaving Do you think they're leaving because they're not getting messaging? 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:45.000 Or are they leaving because they got a job opportunity? They have a crisis at home that you need to get a job I mean, if you're gonna serve the survey people I mean, let's pinpoint it. 01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:46.000 If it's if this goes back to what Chris is just talking about the postcards that are going to go out to are non completers. 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:54.000 I just think there's value in in all of it. 01:07:54.000 --> 01:08:01.000 You. Know Why did you leave? I mean, survey them. Why did you leave Why didn't you finish your studies? 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:06.000 You know? Because maybe then we can remove some of those obstacles for that group. 01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:21.000 So people are me, huh? Okay, Okay, But my point is so if you've got students are leaving that are enrolled in the fall, and they don't come back and roll in the spring I mean, we should be serving them. 01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:22.000 Why you know. Why do you leave Why didn't you finish? 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.000 too. Don't we care about understanding what their student experience was like, and whether or not we made a viable impact on their life and it. They feel good about being an alumni 01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:24.000 I believe I believe that would be further within retention, and something that is handled. 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:25.000 I think, by a different. I think we're moving into an area that is not strictly marketing. 01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:46.000 It's student retention, and I don't think that that is the the point of this committee 01:08:46.000 --> 01:09:01.000 I don't know that I agree with that. No, because we send a lot of meetings, and at the end of the day, and until we were talking and sending direct mail pieces across our community, they had no idea who we were so I appreciate that like to robert's point to all They're 01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:13.000 They're all valid good points. We have to be talking to everybody because at the end of the day we are supposed to have a 2 year rotation on our customers I mean our students. 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:23.000 We're supposed to move these people to and through whatever they're doing, at whatever age the majority of our client base is 18 to 24. 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:31.000 The next largest group jumps us into the 30 to fiftys, so we we do have people who are coming back. 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:41.000 So while a decent number amount of focus is on new students, because that's where new client Low is coming in. 01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:48.000 we are a community college. We are meant to be here for retraining We are meant to be here for senior training. 01:09:48.000 --> 01:10:03.000 I made a very clear point. I would not register at this institution as a grownup, because it is too, hard, to apply, and Michael Peterson heard that loud and clear, via heard that loud clear when she got here it is too hard to apply for adult head classes which is why they Don't go 01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:09.000 through and set it up the same way, and we are making it easier and easier for that community. 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:19.000 LED. Adult LED. Side of the house to function so that we can keep the non traditional students engaged in their community college. 01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:30.000 but we we, Susan and I I are working more closely together, You're seeing workforce and economic development with the Cte folks pull more closer. Together. 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:38.000 So on the enrollment marketing side They're they're not overlapping, but man are those boundaries. 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:47.000 In a couple of areas come in pretty close. So while I don't want to get into semantics in this committee, because that's really what is meant from the programmatic level. 01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:55.000 At the colleges like we'll have a conversation with Mark and say, Hey, this is what we're doing in terms of digital media advise. 01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:00.000 You tell us what programming and where that direction should be, where work with Nbc. 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:22.000 On content, creation, and place it accordingly. But to have the overarching umbrella of we're gonna have and focus on retention. 01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:32.000 let let me clarify. Is I brought that up solely because I know that there are already surveys that are going out so there's overlap at least at Marina Valley college. 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:35.000 For institutional fact. This is already talking to these students. 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.000 So I'm I'm not sure that, like Hmm! 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:40.000 Our efforts. We want to try and like have them answer those questions twice. 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.000 We're gonna focus on new enrollment. We're gonna focus on returning students whether they relievers a non-completeers or they went on and finished. And Now they're back and wanna take underwater basket waiting that'd be a cool class but 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:45.000 I want to be very clear. We are not doing those surveys. 01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:47.000 If we can already leverage, what's being collected? 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:51.000 We are working with Susan David Torres, and that full team we are. 01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:52.000 We are waiting on them to come back with the data which they already have. 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.000 Correct: yeah. 01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:59.000 We are using their data, we are not creating and doing an additional survey. 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:04.000 yes, agree with you. No, we're not. We're not do both. 01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:07.000 You, I I've worked in government for far too long. 01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:15.000 I appropriate steel. Whatever you want to use the word wherever I can cause I don't like to duplicate work It's unnecessary. 01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:37.000 So to that point, as there are things that come up in your colleges that you think of in the middle of the night, and write on your posted note, and either send them individually or bring them back to this group so that we can build this future items out because again the 3 colleges have their 01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:45.000 own look, and feel. They have their own identity and culture, and that gets captured in what goes out. 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:49.000 Social media, what looks or what it looks like in your brand guide? 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:54.000 all of those things are the nuance within the colleges, and I don't want to lose that. 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:57.000 That's why I wanna make sure it comes up through the colleges. 01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:04.000 Whatever we're doing to include, not make edict, or this is the way we're gonna do it. 01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:07.000 That's why these are none of these are called policies. 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:15.000 Right It's meant to be an active dynamic resource for frankly, the people that come after us. 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:23.000 So we want to keep that toolkit. Future items continuing to grow until the completed items is just filled out. 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:32.000 And we've done it all and then we can be like did it next. 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:39.000 there's 2 items so I'd like to respond to, or or look on a little bit more. 01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:44.000 One is as far as the surveying of the high school students. 01:13:44.000 --> 01:14:05.000 The media preference survey does actually include the high school students and one of the age groups that they study extensively of the 16 to 18 year olds and but they prefer that way, and we get a lot of that from our dual enrollment and middle school type middle college type programs 01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:09.000 so we are surveying those students and they are getting that information. 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:15.000 The second question I wanted to address is something that I heard what Mark Figuro said. 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:30.000 That I think is very exciting, and that is the idea that even if somebody is principally enrolled at one college, that they can take classes at other colleges, especially within our district. 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:52.000 But they could even go outside of our district in the whole State of California, and still get credit toward the degree at that particular college And I think it's important for us to remember they are that the student needs or the student success is the number one thing that we need to go for on here it's not 01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:58.000 Institutional Separation. And I think that's what Mark was alluding to, is it? 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:03.000 We need to make sure that people know that they can get people at Rcc. 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:10.000 Know that they can get dental hygiene type program programming through this district that's available at Nbc. 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:14.000 Or any of the other. You know specialty degrees that they have. 01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:17.000 There we're especially courses that they might have there. 01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:26.000 So. I think the idea of us working together about ways that we can better serve the student. 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:34.000 is a great idea. I mark I don't wanna you know. I'm not trying to say that for you with it, but that's kind of what I heard. 01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:49.000 yeah, I mean, I you know, when we get down to the bottom line, our collective fts and our students success are owned by all of us, right And So I do think and to roost point, I do think that we need to spend more time together, because there's there's cool things. 01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:54.000 That each of us are doing that might be applicable for us, or might be a sort of a modification. 01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:59.000 If there's resources and things that we're learning, you know, why why can't we have that opportunity to share? 01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:07.000 And I and I just and again I've I've not even been here a year yet, but I just wanna make sure that we understand collectively. 01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:16.000 We all have sort of responsibility to support one another as well, and I have whatever changes we need to make moving forward I also want to sort of put this in the appropriate context. 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.000 You know, the more and more research I've been working around sort of the crawl out of Covid. 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:24.000 If you will, One of the hardest things is, how do you re-engage with people? 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:27.000 How do you get this sort of the human touchback when there's people they're like? 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:33.000 I don't want that anymore, but we also know that belongingness is an absolute imperative for our students. 01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:47.000 Right. You know. What are the big, bold ideas we have here that came out of our sort of our guided pathways Institute was what would it look like if every student on campus had their person I could identify my one person on on the campus we know that's hugely important but what does 01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:55.000 that look like, And how do we start to communicate to our students what that looks like when you get here, and how that happens? 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.000 And I really want to start hearing students talk about our colleges. 01:16:58.000 --> 01:16:59.000 That That's my college, or those are my colleges. 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:00.000 quick question. 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:07.000 Not That's where I go to school There's a very different mentality of I take classes there versus This is my school right, and that could be any one. Of our 3 schools. 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:21.000 Hmm. 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:28.000 is there a Is there a I mean? Look, if you all want me to convene a meeting more frequently. 01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:29.000 So you all have a real reason to get together and chat. 01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:33.000 I like that mark 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:37.000 I think maybe subs. I think it's a subgroup or work group. 01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:43.000 I think of, of of of us, I think would be. I don't necessarily need to know that we need to have more district marketing committees. 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:44.000 I think subgroups of, you know, like like it might maybe Mark wanted to, you know, get some, you know, with some at Norco, and then you know, we can pull somebody I don't know if anybody Rcc. 01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:54.000 I'm happy to do it. But is there a forum 01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:55.000 But 01:17:55.000 --> 01:18:07.000 Mark. Maybe you want to talk to your your counterparts and figure out the best way to do it, and if if we can support and happy to do it, but like, I'm not happy to put meetings on people schedules unless you all, want it, but if you want me to convene meetings, so you can 01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:11.000 No, I 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.000 I think operational work group be type of stuff, just, you know, organic having discussions. 01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.000 get together, I'll do it. 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:19.000 I think I kinda like what Mark was saying, like we should compare notes. 01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:20.000 What are you guys doing over there? Let's see. Maybe we can, you know, or maybe there's something where we can kind of collaborate. 01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:25.000 Agreed. 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:26.000 And and do stuff. I just think you know that I know that other groups across the district do that, you know Ir people all meet together and talk like we. 01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:42.000 Yeah. 01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:46.000 Well, if there's something that you all want to talk about collectively, we'll throw it on that feature. 01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:47.000 Items list and we'll talk about it, but otherwise we'll let the the organic conversation talking. 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:48.000 Could you know, kind of pull ourselves and say, Hey! But informal and just, you know, to have conversations. 01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:53.000 Not necessarily. 01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:59.000 Okay, cool. 01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:06.000 That's a good point. Yes, Okay, Anything else for today. 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:12.000 For the good of group. I appreciate all the conversation on a water rate of topics. 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:17.000 We're moving forward, and I really appreciate that it started a little slow in the middle of Covid. 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:18.000 but I appreciate you all sticking with us and and keeping it moving, so I will talk again in December, unless you need us before you. 01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:27.000 There you go! 01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:31.000 Know we're find us otherwise. I appreciate the time pretty well. 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:40.000 Thank you.