WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.256 --> 00:00:03.864 Goldware, Rebeccah: Good morning! Everybody! 2 00:00:05.910 --> 00:00:06.699 Agah, Hussain: Good morning! 3 00:00:07.510 --> 00:00:14.490 Goldware, Rebeccah: I will be on screen in a minute after I get what clearly is jelly off of my screen. 4 00:00:16.198 --> 00:00:22.260 Goldware, Rebeccah: and I know that Renee is laughing at me right now. Oh, good! She's not online. Okay, Ginger's laughing. That's good. 5 00:00:23.190 --> 00:00:24.660 White, Virginia: I'm here here for you 6 00:00:24.660 --> 00:00:30.090 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. I'm like I can only hear Renee saying hot mess something to that nature 7 00:00:30.090 --> 00:00:33.496 Vigil, Renee: Can't with you. I was gonna text you that you said it out loud. 8 00:00:35.720 --> 00:00:42.417 Vigil, Renee: Happy Friday, everybody happy. Friday. This is an official recorded meeting, too, jelly and all, girl 9 00:00:44.130 --> 00:00:45.850 Goldware, Rebeccah: This meeting is being recorded. 10 00:00:46.820 --> 00:00:48.560 Goldware, Rebeccah: It's for note reasons. 11 00:00:49.730 --> 00:00:51.720 Goldware, Rebeccah: Good morning, everybody 12 00:00:53.490 --> 00:00:54.270 Jeff Kaatz: Morning. 13 00:00:56.470 --> 00:01:05.760 Goldware, Rebeccah: So I there clearly aren't enough boxes yet for everybody to be here. So we'll wait, maybe another minute or 2. If that's okay. 14 00:01:07.670 --> 00:01:08.350 Goldware, Rebeccah: cool. 15 00:02:16.100 --> 00:02:18.089 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't know if we have more people coming. 16 00:02:18.870 --> 00:02:23.950 Goldware, Rebeccah: Rene, can you give me a an idea of who is missing? 17 00:02:27.880 --> 00:02:31.709 Goldware, Rebeccah: I got some weird thing on here where I can't see everybody 18 00:02:33.770 --> 00:02:38.950 Vigil, Renee: Jennifer did. Rsvp. It looks like the bulk is here already, though 19 00:02:39.180 --> 00:02:42.510 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, I forget. I guess this is a smaller committee. So okay. 20 00:02:42.510 --> 00:02:47.570 Vigil, Renee: This is a baby committee compared to the larger one. So yeah, I think you're pretty good, and you have forum 21 00:02:47.570 --> 00:02:50.620 Jeff Kaatz: I think read is not here. That's the only one I can think of. 22 00:02:50.620 --> 00:02:58.017 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, I think it's part of the discussion today. So we'll go ahead and call the meeting to order. 23 00:02:59.600 --> 00:03:15.579 Goldware, Rebeccah: it's not on here, but I feel like we should just do introductions. I don't know that everybody gets to see and talk to everybody else. So I'm Rebecca older. I'm the Vice Chancellor for institutional advancement and economic development. Jeff, do you want to go? And then, Hussein? And then we can roll through the colleges in whatever order you want to 24 00:03:16.160 --> 00:03:21.129 Jeff Kaatz: Sure Jeff. Cotts, executive director for the Riverside Community College District Foundation 25 00:03:22.090 --> 00:03:26.780 Agah, Hussain: Good morning. This is Hussein Associate, Vice Chancellor, facilities of planning and development. 26 00:03:28.700 --> 00:03:29.710 Agah, Hussain: Virginia 27 00:03:32.110 --> 00:03:35.749 White, Virginia: Virginia White Faculty Biology at Rcc. 28 00:03:38.746 --> 00:03:42.420 Goldware, Rebeccah: Or Vivian, whoever is to or Janelle. Whoever gets to unmute faster 29 00:03:43.270 --> 00:03:47.589 Wortman, Janelle: Janelle Wartman. Facility, utilization Coordinator for Rcc. 30 00:03:53.010 --> 00:03:57.590 Bell, Travonne: I am Trevon Bell. Go by, trey. I'm the director of facilities at Norco. 31 00:03:58.160 --> 00:03:58.870 Bell, Travonne: Sure 32 00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:00.939 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you, Vivian. 33 00:04:02.270 --> 00:04:07.179 Harris, Vivian: Morning. Happy Friday. Vivian Harris, public Services librarian at Norco College. 34 00:04:07.180 --> 00:04:11.110 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you and Rene, just to chime in with more than a last 35 00:04:11.830 --> 00:04:22.990 Vigil, Renee: I'm Rene Vigil Executive Admin assistant to the Vice Chancellor of Institutional Advancement of Economic and economic Development. You know we love long titles at the district. So happy. Friday! Everybody 36 00:04:23.150 --> 00:04:38.069 Goldware, Rebeccah: So thank you. We'll go ahead and do previous minutes from the November meeting. I don't know if anybody has questions comments, but if we could get a motion a second and move that one through 37 00:04:38.260 --> 00:04:41.499 White, Virginia: I moved to accept the minutes from the last meeting. That's Virginia. 38 00:04:41.500 --> 00:04:42.420 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. 39 00:04:43.010 --> 00:04:43.420 Agah, Hussain: I see. 40 00:04:43.420 --> 00:04:44.300 Harris, Vivian: Parents. 41 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:49.690 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. And I'm going to do it the way that Dr. Esoc does it. Are there any abstentions. 42 00:04:50.010 --> 00:04:51.410 Goldware, Rebeccah: Emmy Mace? 43 00:04:52.450 --> 00:04:58.330 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, then we can move those forward. See? Vivian gets to see that. Dspc, right? 44 00:04:59.084 --> 00:05:06.199 Goldware, Rebeccah: That guy's funny sometimes. Okay, topics for discussion. We one of the things that 45 00:05:06.690 --> 00:05:18.300 Goldware, Rebeccah: the collective the district is doing is going through all of the Aps be some of the Bps haven't even been updated. All of Chapter 4, which is the area under advancement has been reviewed. All the those Bps were done. 46 00:05:19.460 --> 00:05:22.380 Goldware, Rebeccah: I think, right around 21 47 00:05:22.988 --> 00:05:37.779 Goldware, Rebeccah: was the last update. Actually, I could probably see what. Sometimes, when you have a hard copy in front of you, you can look at things. Yeah. The 1st one is when it went through board approval. So the Aps haven't necessarily been update. 48 00:05:37.910 --> 00:05:57.590 Goldware, Rebeccah: And so now we're going through again collectively across the district. And I'm trying to get those that are in Chapter 4, 10 facilities. Naming is a board approved committee separate from most of the Dspc. Committees. There's an Ap. That attaches, and it talks about all of our roles and responsibilities and what we do. 49 00:05:58.336 --> 00:06:09.754 Goldware, Rebeccah: So wanted to bring it forward to this group. I'm gonna hand it over to Jeff so that he can. Kind of lead us through this conversation. He's got some talking points. 50 00:06:10.350 --> 00:06:27.779 Goldware, Rebeccah: this is not going to be your only opportunity. So as things come up. Please let us know. I mean they're Ap, so we can always go back and review them, but would like to try to move a draft forward so that general counsel knows that we're working on it. So at this point I'm going to be quiet, and, Jeff, the floor is yours. 51 00:06:28.610 --> 00:06:34.309 Jeff Kaatz: All right. Okay, I'm trying to share my screen. Is it the the board? Okay? 52 00:06:34.540 --> 00:06:35.525 Jeff Kaatz: Alright. 53 00:06:37.090 --> 00:06:50.434 Jeff Kaatz: so I don't know how many of you had a chance to read through this already. But there's there's a few few places where I think we could do some editing, or suggest some edits to to strengthen the document. 54 00:06:51.170 --> 00:07:02.699 Jeff Kaatz: and Rebecca, I know you have a few items, too, that that you'd like to point out the 1st page here. I don't. I don't see anything that that really needs any attention. But if anyone else 55 00:07:02.850 --> 00:07:04.940 Jeff Kaatz: does under items, one or 2 56 00:07:05.513 --> 00:07:07.380 Jeff Kaatz: it's pretty straightforward, I think 57 00:07:07.940 --> 00:07:13.880 Goldware, Rebeccah: So I have like lawyerly questions which I am gonna have separately with Keith of 58 00:07:14.470 --> 00:07:17.189 Goldware, Rebeccah: what is what is the facility? 59 00:07:17.350 --> 00:07:20.869 Goldware, Rebeccah: And I think Hussein would appreciate having a definition there. 60 00:07:21.361 --> 00:07:48.010 Goldware, Rebeccah: And part of that came from a conversation with folks at Norco relative to does the Bench qualify as a facility. Right? So I think that's a side question. I don't think we need to delve into that right now, because we did. We do have a separate path for the colleges to follow. But I think we want a definition at some point or other aspects, which is also in that 1st line of item one. So that's the only 61 00:07:49.060 --> 00:08:05.950 Goldware, Rebeccah: only thing that I would point out there. And that's just a i i mentioned it to Hussein when the 1st question came up from Norco, and we both went. What's the facility? And we went? Dang so. But we still think we've got a path. It's not a problem on Number 2. 62 00:08:06.300 --> 00:08:13.250 Goldware, Rebeccah: I didn't know if we wanted that to match the other Dspc committees, or if this should be a small group. 63 00:08:13.350 --> 00:08:15.380 Goldware, Rebeccah: so there's not 64 00:08:15.700 --> 00:08:29.427 Goldware, Rebeccah: broad representation in the Board Ap. And it could happen that there would almost be no representation from all 3 colleges. We happen to have it. Thank you, Felipe for joining 65 00:08:30.230 --> 00:08:36.870 Goldware, Rebeccah: We happen to have it. But it's not the way that it's written. It doesn't have to happen that way which is different 66 00:08:37.220 --> 00:08:51.840 Goldware, Rebeccah: than the way the Dspc. Committees are set up. But I also don't know if this committee should be the size of some of those Dspc committees. So I want to deposit that for maybe discussion, maybe not determination today. But I don't know if anybody has any thoughts. There 67 00:09:10.580 --> 00:09:12.109 Jeff Kaatz: Doesn't sound like it. 68 00:09:14.558 --> 00:09:23.510 Agah, Hussain: So I have a question. So, Rebecca, what you're saying this, this is a task force, not necessarily a subcommittee of Dspc. Is that correct? 69 00:09:23.510 --> 00:09:39.100 Goldware, Rebeccah: No, this is a board appointed committee that also happens to be tied to the Dspc structure. This committee would exist at least the way the Aps are written. Now this committee would exist regardless of Dspc. 70 00:09:39.810 --> 00:09:40.580 Agah, Hussain: Gotcha 71 00:09:41.260 --> 00:09:44.700 Goldware, Rebeccah: I just don't know if the membership should align. 72 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:56.519 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't know from a faculty perspective, is there? Does it matter? I mean, facilities are 73 00:09:57.698 --> 00:10:08.099 Galicia, Felipe: Did. Well did did the this is a a Board committee. Did the Board have anything in mind about its representation? Did they give any recommendations themselves? 74 00:10:08.100 --> 00:10:12.350 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't. Well, so this is an Ap. So it goes through the Chancellor. 75 00:10:12.923 --> 00:10:23.580 Goldware, Rebeccah: So the board requires that a committee be formed, but not necessarily the makeup of that committee. The Ap. Was crafted internally and 76 00:10:24.050 --> 00:10:30.350 Goldware, Rebeccah: frankly, probably the way that this was written, and when it was written probably predates. Esoc. 77 00:10:31.020 --> 00:10:43.669 Goldware, Rebeccah: It might predate Esoc, but maybe definitely in the Chancellor's office. But maybe even within the institution I don't know that anybody has had depth of conversation on the structure of this committee 78 00:10:44.862 --> 00:10:55.137 Galicia, Felipe: Well, it sounds like that's the 1st step reach out to the Chancellor and see what his vision is for the committee's membership. He might. He might 79 00:10:55.950 --> 00:11:03.329 Galicia, Felipe: pitch it back to Dspc. To have a discussion about that. But I think that's probably where we start 80 00:11:03.330 --> 00:11:05.669 Goldware, Rebeccah: Does this committee have a recommendation, though. 81 00:11:06.530 --> 00:11:17.107 Goldware, Rebeccah: cause I'd rather take him a recommendation of, we want to keep it the same for X reasons, or we think it should match Gsbc. Because continuity or other reasons 82 00:11:19.490 --> 00:11:45.649 Galicia, Felipe: Well, we we wanna all constituent group representations to begin with. Right then there, you know, we can get a little bit further into the weeds about what that means for faculty, like what are the most appropriate faculty, and so on and so forth. I don't know that I have a recommendation on facilities naming in terms of faculty. At this point it would be any faculty interested in participating to that 83 00:11:45.650 --> 00:11:49.680 Goldware, Rebeccah: Is it? Is it necessary for faculty to be on this committee? I would say yes, but 84 00:11:50.850 --> 00:11:58.619 White, Virginia: I well, I'm gonna hop in as faculty and say, yes, I I think it is. And I think, as defined here. 85 00:11:59.020 --> 00:12:13.220 White, Virginia: that it should be a faculty from each college in the district as determined by the college President in consultation with the academic Senate that gives the academic Senate a voice in who that is, and you know that presumably they come with a 86 00:12:13.220 --> 00:12:13.600 White, Virginia: yeah 87 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.820 White, Virginia: purpose or a reason why they would be the best fit for it. So it seems appropriate to me 88 00:12:19.130 --> 00:12:19.700 Jeff Kaatz: Like that 89 00:12:21.350 --> 00:12:34.250 Galicia, Felipe: Yeah, the Senate would have appointed all faculty to all these committees to begin with. And yeah, they would be the ones to look at. Okay. What is the appropriateness of the appointment to each committee? 90 00:12:34.630 --> 00:12:38.840 Goldware, Rebeccah: So it sounds like, we're okay with this structure, then. And we're we're not gonna recommend changes 91 00:12:39.230 --> 00:12:41.300 Bell, Travonne: I I agree with the structure 92 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:42.430 Goldware, Rebeccah: Cool. 93 00:12:43.370 --> 00:12:47.420 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, thank you. I said I was, gonna be quiet, Jeff, go stop 94 00:12:47.650 --> 00:12:58.830 Jeff Kaatz: Oh, no, you're doing great so I think the next one that I have on my list. You and I both wanted to talk about item general under general guidance for C. 95 00:13:00.550 --> 00:13:08.000 Jeff Kaatz: Should this be non college specific, is that is, that about the let's see. 96 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.630 Jeff Kaatz: Be helpful. If I scroll down there for you. 97 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:14.110 Jeff Kaatz: Yeah. So this 4 C. 98 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:27.490 Jeff Kaatz: Not quite sure what the what the ex, what the operational experts are. But, Hussein, you probably 99 00:13:27.930 --> 00:13:32.119 Jeff Kaatz: would be that person, or is there some someone at each college? 100 00:13:33.920 --> 00:13:35.299 Goldware, Rebeccah: We have a number of 101 00:13:35.460 --> 00:13:44.969 Goldware, Rebeccah: facilities that are not tied to the college itself. So part of part of my thought of removing the college bound information. 102 00:13:45.780 --> 00:13:51.779 Goldware, Rebeccah: or it's college and or appropriate like, we would need to tweak that a little bit 103 00:13:52.730 --> 00:13:57.639 Goldware, Rebeccah: because we want Jeff to have the freedom and flexibility to get funds for naming of anything. 104 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:00.800 Goldware, Rebeccah: even if it's not specific and tied to a college. 105 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.340 Goldware, Rebeccah: So, Hussein, I don't know if you have any specifics there 106 00:14:09.805 --> 00:14:11.850 Agah, Hussain: I don't at this point, to be honest. 107 00:14:12.390 --> 00:14:14.477 Agah, Hussain: just have to think it through a little bit 108 00:14:15.530 --> 00:14:19.680 Goldware, Rebeccah: I mean trey. Would the area administrator in theory be facilities? 109 00:14:20.190 --> 00:14:21.150 Goldware, Rebeccah: Who? 110 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:28.850 Goldware, Rebeccah: Because if it's I, I mean, it's a facility thing you're not talking about 111 00:14:29.160 --> 00:14:35.409 Goldware, Rebeccah: knowing depth of information in stem or English, or right from a discipline perspective, so 112 00:14:35.700 --> 00:14:44.399 Goldware, Rebeccah: does the operational expert by default become facilities, or maybe the Vp. Of planning or business 113 00:14:44.400 --> 00:14:45.530 Bell, Travonne: I I think. 114 00:14:45.650 --> 00:14:59.630 Bell, Travonne: for for our campus it'll more likely be the Vp. Of business, and then they will, if they have, you know, need recommendations, they will come to facilities. That's typically in this situation, what would happen here at Norco? So 115 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:04.109 Bell, Travonne: I would assume that's similar at other campuses as well 116 00:15:04.340 --> 00:15:05.850 Goldware, Rebeccah: Janelle, same 117 00:15:05.850 --> 00:15:06.910 Wortman, Janelle: I would agree 118 00:15:09.390 --> 00:15:13.379 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. So maybe it should just tie it back to the Vp 119 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:20.840 Goldware, Rebeccah: of the appropriate designated area. Because to know, would that be business, or would it be planning at Rcc 120 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:23.560 Wortman, Janelle: Yeah, it would be the Vp of business services 121 00:15:23.560 --> 00:15:23.974 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. 122 00:15:24.897 --> 00:15:30.789 Goldware, Rebeccah: Felipe, do you happen to know if it would be Mej or Vp business over at Marina Valley? 123 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:34.669 Goldware, Rebeccah: I mean, I know that's where facilities reports to. But 124 00:15:34.750 --> 00:15:37.390 Galicia, Felipe: Yeah, it seems it seems likely. 125 00:15:38.620 --> 00:15:48.949 Galicia, Felipe: I don't. I don't know who else would. Maybe if Vp. As car confers with the President. Maybe they but otherwise be hurt 126 00:15:48.950 --> 00:16:00.750 Goldware, Rebeccah: So maybe we wanna tweak that language a little bit to reflect the Vp coordinating with. And then it's the Vp slash ABC, because then it ties to Hussein. Then you're brought into it. Your office 127 00:16:00.750 --> 00:16:01.170 Bell, Travonne: So. 128 00:16:01.170 --> 00:16:04.630 Goldware, Rebeccah: On all of the district, not college specific 129 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:05.760 Agah, Hussain: Right. 130 00:16:06.400 --> 00:16:15.810 Bell, Travonne: And that's that's typical. Here at Norco. We'll Bill. Dr. Collins is our Vice President, vice President of business services. He would come to me for recommendation. 131 00:16:16.260 --> 00:16:21.135 Bell, Travonne: Call our President, and he would reach out to Hussein's office and talk to Hussein. 132 00:16:21.630 --> 00:16:25.160 Bell, Travonne: We'll come to a consensus and move forward from there. At that point 133 00:16:25.300 --> 00:16:31.420 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. So maybe Jeff and Hussein, you can tweak that language a little bit to reflect. 134 00:16:31.820 --> 00:16:38.220 Goldware, Rebeccah: Kind of what the group to make sure that it's both the Vps and the Abcs respectively. 135 00:16:38.885 --> 00:16:41.449 Goldware, Rebeccah: Cause. I think the rest of it flows correctly 136 00:16:41.770 --> 00:16:47.850 Jeff Kaatz: Sure I can put. So you said this together and send over to you 137 00:16:47.850 --> 00:16:48.930 Agah, Hussain: Yep. Sounds good. 138 00:16:51.860 --> 00:16:54.839 Jeff Kaatz: I don't know if there's anything in d that. You see, there 139 00:16:56.430 --> 00:17:04.920 Jeff Kaatz: The building name should include the function of that facility and its title. I'm not sure how, if we do that consistently but 140 00:17:08.250 --> 00:17:09.510 Jeff Kaatz: Any thoughts on that 141 00:17:16.810 --> 00:17:18.350 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't know that we have an example 142 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:23.019 Jeff Kaatz: Yeah, I couldn't think of anything, but it just occurred to me that 143 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:32.509 Goldware, Rebeccah: Well, how do like one of the things that came up as I was reading? This is, programs are named like, and it is. It didn't. 144 00:17:33.099 --> 00:17:37.569 Goldware, Rebeccah: If I believe it includes academic programs. 145 00:17:38.980 --> 00:17:45.280 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't. Are there new? I mean, of course, there's been new academic programs. But in theory that is approved. 146 00:17:46.690 --> 00:17:52.089 Goldware, Rebeccah: It doesn't need to. I don't think it should go through the facilities naming group right? But if you added. 147 00:17:52.830 --> 00:17:54.569 Goldware, Rebeccah: I can't a discipline 148 00:17:55.840 --> 00:18:03.863 Goldware, Rebeccah: when it came to. And would it have to go through this committee the way that it's set up like I don't know how it goes through. Now, 149 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:05.230 Goldware, Rebeccah: go ahead 150 00:18:05.600 --> 00:18:23.819 Agah, Hussain: Yeah, I'm just just gonna throw a couple of example we have at Reverse city college, right? We have the Kane building, Victor Charles Kane Administration building. Right? So it's that's this is the Administration building, right? You have the Coyle School of the Arts. So it's named before Coyle, who was a 151 00:18:23.820 --> 00:18:49.280 Agah, Hussain: a donor, but then also talks about the function of the building, which is the being an art, you know, Art Building the latest one. We just opened the fall last year was the life, science, physical science? Well, that's our innovation. But name now, business and law, a business law, and Cis or construction. Sorry and computer information system building. It's like 2 buildings, right? 152 00:18:49.390 --> 00:19:07.210 Agah, Hussain: And that name was not named before any person, right or any. But it was a program, you know, 1 1 wing was for the Admin, for the business alone. The other wing was for the Cis, which is computer information system. That decision made through 153 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.640 Agah, Hussain: the college, and the Chancellor was part of that process 154 00:19:12.910 --> 00:19:24.089 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, I can talk to her about that. But that's not the way the Ap. Is written that he just gets to decide that it has to go through the, it says, retains authority for naming all facilities, events. 155 00:19:24.270 --> 00:19:25.820 Agah, Hussain: Right programs 156 00:19:26.530 --> 00:19:31.930 Goldware, Rebeccah: And then the board delegates how he has to set this up. So I just 157 00:19:33.550 --> 00:19:34.150 Agah, Hussain: I don't mean 158 00:19:34.570 --> 00:19:35.700 Goldware, Rebeccah: I'm like, sh! 159 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:40.669 Goldware, Rebeccah: Do we want to pull that like? Should that be pulled out because it's an academic thing. 160 00:19:40.830 --> 00:19:46.920 Goldware, Rebeccah: and it it's going to them. The Board is approving the name. It's just not coming through this committee. 161 00:19:47.150 --> 00:20:00.239 Goldware, Rebeccah: so they're still retaining the approval of it. I just wanna make sure that there's a box checking of, and maybe it gets included here. And this is something I can talk to Keith about offline, unless you all think I'm jumping to a rabbit hole. But 162 00:20:00.530 --> 00:20:07.470 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't think this committee today, or in the future wants to approve the naming of academic programs 163 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:09.680 Goldware, Rebeccah: that have gone right 164 00:20:09.870 --> 00:20:10.510 Bell, Travonne: Right. 165 00:20:10.510 --> 00:20:12.730 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't think, Ginger, I've seen Ginger's head shake that fast. 166 00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:13.660 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yes. 167 00:20:14.290 --> 00:20:16.890 White, Virginia: All the conversations that we've had 168 00:20:17.210 --> 00:20:20.170 White, Virginia: since I've been a part of the committee is 169 00:20:20.876 --> 00:20:40.860 White, Virginia: talking about naming things after people, not after programs. And so like my assumption was that when a building is built, whoever is involved in the construction of the building, whatever program is involved in that gets a say in what the name of that building is, and then if somebody donates a bunch of money 170 00:20:40.910 --> 00:21:04.159 White, Virginia: to parts of it or to the whole building. Then we have a Comp. Then we have a conversation about putting their name in addition to so like, not that I don't know whether Mr. Kane or his family donated money. But I'm saying like, that's the Administration building. It's named for Kane, so that we would have the conversation about the name. The Kane part of that name, if that was the donation. But that would be it. 171 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:15.759 Goldware, Rebeccah: So that part's not. I don't think that part's clear in here, so I think maybe we want to add, and I'll I can talk to Keith about it, so we'll just make sure that it's in the notes I think we want to add a section of. 172 00:21:16.010 --> 00:21:21.849 Goldware, Rebeccah: unless it is an honorific or an honorary or philanthropic naming 173 00:21:22.170 --> 00:21:25.839 Goldware, Rebeccah: program, you know. Program naming goes through. And then 174 00:21:26.210 --> 00:21:27.880 Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't know if that's a separate 175 00:21:28.930 --> 00:21:35.540 Goldware, Rebeccah: Ap. Like. That's a different can of worms that I'm maybe opening so, cause I don't think we want to name. 176 00:21:35.810 --> 00:21:38.669 Goldware, Rebeccah: Trio is a bad example. Phoenix. Scholars 177 00:21:39.770 --> 00:21:44.930 Goldware, Rebeccah: right like that's like the colleges have differentiated some program namings. 178 00:21:47.610 --> 00:21:51.089 Goldware, Rebeccah: And I don't think that that's necessarily something that we wanna 179 00:21:51.800 --> 00:21:57.819 Goldware, Rebeccah: see. Okay, so that's something I will have an offline conversation about, but it did come up in that 180 00:21:58.190 --> 00:22:08.079 Goldware, Rebeccah: section. There's also some just as a side. There's some general cleanup where we need to add, or property, or add com as appropriate. So there should be some cleanup on this document. 181 00:22:08.210 --> 00:22:09.080 Goldware, Rebeccah: 2 182 00:22:10.010 --> 00:22:15.310 Jeff Kaatz: I think they could. Probably we could put a sentence somewhere in one of the opening paragraphs of the 183 00:22:15.500 --> 00:22:24.120 Jeff Kaatz: Board Policy, or just that, just as this committee deals with honor, epic, and philanthropic namings so 184 00:22:25.150 --> 00:22:25.870 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yes. 185 00:22:26.525 --> 00:22:27.180 Jeff Kaatz: Okay. 186 00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:36.920 Jeff Kaatz: unless otherwise requested by the Chancellor, because then it leaves us the out of being able to help on other things if it comes up. So, Jeff, to your point. I think that's an easy solution 187 00:22:37.110 --> 00:22:40.819 Goldware, Rebeccah: But leave the other because he may need a group that he hands it to. 188 00:22:43.130 --> 00:22:49.210 Goldware, Rebeccah: to facilitate something. I don't know why, but it leaves a little flexibility. 189 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:52.870 Goldware, Rebeccah: What's 190 00:22:53.448 --> 00:23:00.129 Jeff Kaatz: Next, let's see. A letter. Let's see. F. 191 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:15.459 Jeff Kaatz: I think that's pretty clear. I I'm kind of sort sifting through this because we have a there's a naming that we approved last fall that we're still getting kind of stuck in the weeds on getting the plaque actually 192 00:23:15.990 --> 00:23:20.290 Jeff Kaatz: put up for the chef, Bobby in culinary school. 193 00:23:21.430 --> 00:23:31.200 Jeff Kaatz: because it was an honorary naming. So the President kind of walks out through. If it's a philanthropic, then our office sort of walks it through and 194 00:23:33.710 --> 00:23:36.569 Jeff Kaatz: and then, if it's honorary, then it's 195 00:23:36.780 --> 00:23:41.579 Jeff Kaatz: paid for out of the district budget. I believe it says later on in this document. 196 00:23:43.650 --> 00:23:47.519 Jeff Kaatz: but I don't think if there's anything else in that one that you want to talk about, we can 197 00:23:50.870 --> 00:24:02.609 Agah, Hussain: Jeff, I have just comment on E, and regarding the plague. We always. Once we open a new project, we have a building a plaque, and that recognized the Board of Trustees 198 00:24:03.260 --> 00:24:05.299 Agah, Hussain: and Chancellor and the President. 199 00:24:06.030 --> 00:24:21.149 Agah, Hussain: We have a standard design standard that's inherited. It's not part of our district standard, but something we've been using over the last 10 years. I you know it's as simple it could be. It doesn't have any credential for the board. 200 00:24:21.320 --> 00:24:30.340 Agah, Hussain: you know there's no like Board President or discrediterry, or what have you? I just list all the board members and list the President and the 201 00:24:30.500 --> 00:24:32.397 Agah, Hussain: and the Chancellor 202 00:24:33.270 --> 00:24:43.550 Agah, Hussain: and and that's really applies. For you know, major renovation, you know, new projects and so forth. So we have those, you know. We we add that, but it's not 203 00:24:43.840 --> 00:24:46.500 Agah, Hussain: name before any any person or 204 00:24:46.970 --> 00:24:49.810 Agah, Hussain: in memorial of anyone just just wanted. 205 00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:51.890 Agah, Hussain: Everyone should be aware of that 206 00:24:53.300 --> 00:24:53.890 Jeff Kaatz: Okay. 207 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:58.768 Jeff Kaatz: Alright. Is there anything else in in 208 00:24:59.350 --> 00:25:00.880 Jeff Kaatz: Item 4. 209 00:25:03.070 --> 00:25:07.649 Jeff Kaatz: Not. We can move on in in 5. 210 00:25:12.510 --> 00:25:16.009 Jeff Kaatz: I don't. I didn't see anything in there, or Rebecca that 211 00:25:16.941 --> 00:25:20.680 Jeff Kaatz: needs to get tweaked. It's that one's pretty clear to me. But 212 00:25:21.040 --> 00:25:23.469 Jeff Kaatz: any of you have questions we can talk about them 213 00:25:24.520 --> 00:25:32.160 Goldware, Rebeccah: It would only be for clarification on honorary namings that they're probably we probably wanna talk about having a term 214 00:25:32.500 --> 00:25:41.370 Goldware, Rebeccah: that they're not in perpetuity and potentially on our building namings. I don't know 215 00:25:44.390 --> 00:25:56.329 Jeff Kaatz: Yeah. So I I don't. I'm not aware of any namings that have gone through that have been for terms. I think all the ones that I'm aware of, or they've been there. There's I guess there's no 216 00:25:56.740 --> 00:26:04.889 Goldware, Rebeccah: I think part of the reason this comes up is because you have some buildings that are coming down in across multiple of the colleges, and some of those buildings have names on them. 217 00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:05.390 Jeff Kaatz: Right. 218 00:26:05.600 --> 00:26:10.640 Goldware, Rebeccah: And I think that's why some of the colleges and what do we do? Do we switch to a plaque, which is what happens 219 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:23.431 Goldware, Rebeccah: when certain right when Noble when Kane got built, Noble came down. Now there's a plaque somewhere in Kane outside of the President's office about recognizing Noble cool. When 220 00:26:24.600 --> 00:26:28.640 Goldware, Rebeccah: the PAL building comes down. The business building is gonna come down at some point. 221 00:26:29.270 --> 00:26:33.260 Goldware, Rebeccah: Rcc is going to have to determine where they're if and where they're gonna put a plaque 222 00:26:33.909 --> 00:26:39.999 Goldware, Rebeccah: for Alan Powell Trey. I know there's a couple of buildings at Norco that that we've talked about that are 223 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:52.179 Bell, Travonne: Yeah, we where we came our plan. With Vice President, Vice President of business services, and our our president here at the college. The executive cabinet for our our campus discuss 224 00:26:52.360 --> 00:26:53.860 Bell, Travonne: that whenever we 225 00:26:54.500 --> 00:27:20.239 Bell, Travonne: demolish like, we're demolishing our cat building and we're relocating those programs to the stem center that will create a plaque and place it in the stem center somewhere. We would designate a wall or something to place it on. Place that plaque on, and it would do the same like. For for example, we get a planner donated to the college or a tree, and for some reason, because we're doing construction. That tree has to be uprooted. 226 00:27:20.728 --> 00:27:30.429 Bell, Travonne: We may end up creating a a plaque and putting it on our legacy wall in our Css. Css. 2 17 built a room. 227 00:27:30.813 --> 00:27:47.250 Bell, Travonne: But that's our plan here at our campus. We also have plaques that we just happen to don't know what was written on it, because it's faded from wear and tear from the sun, and things like that. So we would reach out to the foundation and ask if they have that information, if they don't, we would just 228 00:27:47.550 --> 00:27:49.939 Bell, Travonne: at the end of the day. We don't. We don't know what it says. 229 00:27:50.110 --> 00:27:50.720 Jeff Kaatz: Yeah. 230 00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.859 Bell, Travonne: And so also for for 231 00:27:53.010 --> 00:27:58.879 Bell, Travonne: for a a bench we have a bench on our campus that it that was donated to us, we consider that an asset 232 00:27:59.080 --> 00:28:00.909 Bell, Travonne: not necessarily a facility. 233 00:28:01.100 --> 00:28:01.980 Goldware, Rebeccah: See? Yeah. 234 00:28:01.980 --> 00:28:02.500 Bell, Travonne: Yes. 235 00:28:02.500 --> 00:28:25.676 Goldware, Rebeccah: This is great like. I would love it to stay as an asset and not facility, because then it keeps it out of our space right for here, and it allows the colleges to move and do within flexibility. And I did have a conversation with Michael, and was like this wall that he's talking about. And hopefully, Jeffy's talked with you about it. It ties with the President's circle and some of her goals. I just 236 00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:34.989 Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, I I think Norco and Riverside, specifically, because they've got names on buildings that are being impacted. I think, both have 237 00:28:35.100 --> 00:28:50.120 Goldware, Rebeccah: either existing or plans forward that are really good and align, and then tie forward with other philanthropic opportunities which is really great. So thank yeah, I thank you for sharing that I had. I I knew Michael was working on some stuff. So that's really great. 238 00:28:52.100 --> 00:28:52.850 Goldware, Rebeccah: What else 239 00:28:52.850 --> 00:28:56.330 Jeff Kaatz: So so item 6 and and 7 kind of 240 00:28:57.120 --> 00:29:11.170 Jeff Kaatz: kind of help guide us when there's, you know, a building comes down. If there's someone. If there's a name and it's not, it's we're not obligated to to keep that name on the new building. But you know, I think there's some. 241 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:20.279 Jeff Kaatz: you know, communications that that would often be done with family members if there are any still alive from associated with that naming. 242 00:29:23.090 --> 00:29:23.880 Jeff Kaatz: Yeah. 243 00:29:24.620 --> 00:29:30.039 Jeff Kaatz: Most any other questions about that those those sections of 6 or 7, 244 00:29:36.650 --> 00:29:39.459 Jeff Kaatz: and then on signage. Let's see. 245 00:29:40.300 --> 00:29:43.690 Jeff Kaatz: Sorry am I keeping up with my scrolling responsibilities. 246 00:29:51.300 --> 00:30:05.859 Jeff Kaatz: So the only, I guess kind of gets to what we just talked about, Rebecca, the last paragraph of of 8, all areas where students, staff, and public gather. You know these public, these assets? Not necessarily public facilities, I mean I I 247 00:30:06.070 --> 00:30:10.342 Jeff Kaatz: I I would love to see that part go away and just leave that up for the colleges. 248 00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:13.639 Jeff Kaatz: But yeah, I don't know how the rest of you feel 249 00:30:20.610 --> 00:30:29.779 Goldware, Rebeccah: My general preference is to leave as much to the colleges as possible. So if there is a plaque or a bench to trace point that you all want to move. 250 00:30:32.080 --> 00:30:33.559 Goldware, Rebeccah: You should be able to do that 251 00:30:36.270 --> 00:30:44.510 Jeff Kaatz: Yeah, just another informational item to I, Mark Wendy, my sister and I have been doing some initial research on. 252 00:30:44.780 --> 00:30:56.914 Jeff Kaatz: because I know there's some of the colors are talking about putting in donor walls and so on. But, one of the things we we want to encourage people to consider, is there? There are these virtual recognition walls that are are very 253 00:30:57.780 --> 00:31:12.140 Jeff Kaatz: handy and also the ones that are fixed on you can put them on. So there, there's more like screens that are embedded onto the wall or tabs that can be easily updated from an office somewhere where someone is a new donor comes 254 00:31:12.260 --> 00:31:25.081 Jeff Kaatz: and gives a gift. It can. It can be easily added, just from the computer, and then it will show up and they can be scroll. They can be scrolling through, or they can be, you know, just up there. But 255 00:31:26.510 --> 00:31:32.981 Jeff Kaatz: I think students are probably more likely to look at those because they're used to looking at screens. 256 00:31:33.990 --> 00:31:35.360 Jeff Kaatz: But anyway. 257 00:31:35.360 --> 00:31:40.900 Goldware, Rebeccah: I think you can also post those on your sites, though, too so 258 00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:51.320 Jeff Kaatz: Websites. There's there's a web recognition that walls or not walls but waste ways to to acknowledge gifts. 259 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.990 Jeff Kaatz: So yeah. 260 00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:54.845 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. 261 00:31:57.430 --> 00:31:59.780 Jeff Kaatz: Nope, that's everything on my list. 262 00:32:03.520 --> 00:32:05.589 Goldware, Rebeccah: I know this was a quick review. 263 00:32:07.290 --> 00:32:12.435 Goldware, Rebeccah: Again, it's an Ap. So it's gonna go through 400 other people. 264 00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:21.399 Goldware, Rebeccah: we're happy to bring this back. I don't at a future meeting, but this group is not going to be slated to meet again until probably 265 00:32:22.330 --> 00:32:25.370 Goldware, Rebeccah: August, September, October. 266 00:32:26.210 --> 00:32:27.220 Goldware, Rebeccah: So 267 00:32:28.780 --> 00:32:38.399 Goldware, Rebeccah: I'm happy to email any draft out to provide comments. But I would like, I mean, from a staff perspective. I do need to keep this moving forward 268 00:32:38.910 --> 00:33:06.060 Goldware, Rebeccah: is that? Does that work for everybody that I can send it out to you all. We won't say that you've approved it because you haven't unless you're comfortable with it. We could take an electronic vote at some point because I do. My my hope is to have this at least for a potential 1st rate at Dspc. In May and or June, so that it can come back in the fall, so I could bring it back to you all at our fall meeting. I don't know that that would be in advance of Dspc. Second, read, though. 269 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:11.530 Goldware, Rebeccah: Vivian, do you really want to review it before it goes to Dspc 270 00:33:12.610 --> 00:33:18.340 Harris, Vivian: My computer must be loving this meeting because it's just sending all these memojis. So yeah, it's been 271 00:33:18.340 --> 00:33:19.510 Harris, Vivian: thumbs up over here 272 00:33:19.962 --> 00:33:21.770 Goldware, Rebeccah: Wow! She really wants 273 00:33:21.770 --> 00:33:34.540 Harris, Vivian: I'm on a device I normally don't use. So I'm just glad it's working. And it's like not freezing or doing things I'm like, oh, these things I was trying to do the thumb, and then everything else came. But I will read through whatever you give me, if you, if you need me to no problem 274 00:33:34.540 --> 00:33:46.159 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. So I guess the intent is that we'll finish. We'll try to get a draft done before the end of the month. But let's say early May. We'll get it all out to you, because, we'll 275 00:33:46.420 --> 00:33:50.200 Goldware, Rebeccah: we'll try to make Dspc. In May. But I'll probably aim for June. 276 00:33:50.500 --> 00:33:51.859 Goldware, Rebeccah: Is there a June meeting? 277 00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:56.359 Goldware, Rebeccah: Felipe? Who knows? Oh, Hussein knows there's a g meeting. Okay. 278 00:33:56.580 --> 00:33:58.339 Goldware, Rebeccah: I'm like somebody has to know if there's do me 279 00:33:58.340 --> 00:34:01.080 Agah, Hussain: I have a 12 items coming to that board. So yes, I know 280 00:34:01.080 --> 00:34:02.949 Goldware, Rebeccah: Whoa! Whoa! 281 00:34:02.950 --> 00:34:06.180 Agah, Hussain: In a preparation for the bond. Yes, 12 items 282 00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:08.409 Goldware, Rebeccah: Could Dspc. 283 00:34:09.598 --> 00:34:14.170 Agah, Hussain: Probably one of 2 to Dspc, but the rest just consent. Items 284 00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:20.340 Goldware, Rebeccah: Just one or 2 to Dspc. That's fine. I just. But I want to go to Dsp. I don't. Wanna. I guess I want to go before you 285 00:34:20.989 --> 00:34:22.690 Goldware, Rebeccah: is what I'm saying. 286 00:34:23.810 --> 00:34:35.770 Goldware, Rebeccah: So we'll get. We'll get a draft together. We'll get it out to the group in advance of it being agenda as you're going to Dspc and get me updated comments again just on the Ap. So we'll red line what we talked about. 287 00:34:36.980 --> 00:34:46.139 Goldware, Rebeccah: and we'll go from there we'll have him. Our next meeting would be again, or probably fall sometime early fall, unless there's some 288 00:34:46.310 --> 00:34:52.350 Goldware, Rebeccah: magical gift that Jeff gets that we don't know about that. Somebody wants to put their name on a building which he could do. I have full 289 00:34:52.350 --> 00:34:53.379 Jeff Kaatz: Working on it. 290 00:34:55.439 --> 00:35:01.469 Goldware, Rebeccah: Awesome. Okay. Anything else on the Ap. Bp, in general. 291 00:35:03.049 --> 00:35:08.199 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, anything for future meetings. 292 00:35:08.629 --> 00:35:13.579 Goldware, Rebeccah: I feel like the colleges have enough to go with, to be able to work with 293 00:35:13.580 --> 00:35:14.230 Bell, Travonne: Bye. 294 00:35:14.230 --> 00:35:15.459 Goldware, Rebeccah: Buildings and whatnot. 295 00:35:15.460 --> 00:35:24.819 Bell, Travonne: Yeah, I just like just to find out what the clarification is on. What's a facility? Because, you know, like I said, our our campus take, you know, the donation 296 00:35:24.820 --> 00:35:25.210 Goldware, Rebeccah: Asset. 297 00:35:25.210 --> 00:35:26.090 Bell, Travonne: It's an asset 298 00:35:26.090 --> 00:35:30.379 Goldware, Rebeccah: Different. Yeah, no, you've you've coded it as an asset. Hussein. 299 00:35:30.810 --> 00:35:33.940 Goldware, Rebeccah: Right? That's an asset that's not a facility. Yeah, see? 300 00:35:34.510 --> 00:35:43.043 Goldware, Rebeccah: Agreement. It's great. So yeah, keep going until something that that, and that's the direction we're going. So you'll be good. 301 00:35:43.450 --> 00:35:49.979 Bell, Travonne: If if so, we had a donor, probably like a month ago, come to our campus. They donated 302 00:35:50.330 --> 00:36:05.130 Bell, Travonne: some artwork from their family, and it had to be relocated because we had to do some renovations in our library. We had a flood a couple of years ago, and we had to relocate that. And are we supposed to notify the families? 303 00:36:05.270 --> 00:36:11.149 Bell, Travonne: Okay, yeah, they were upset. And I'm like, well, it's here just relocated it 304 00:36:11.150 --> 00:36:21.799 Goldware, Rebeccah: No, once they gave it to you, is yours unless they committed you to a location, and that would have been in writing somewhere, so no, once they give it to you, is yours like, if somebody got a piano, and then they had to move the piano 305 00:36:23.050 --> 00:36:25.430 Bell, Travonne: That's why I think those are assets. 306 00:36:25.430 --> 00:36:26.860 Bell, Travonne: Yes, correct. 307 00:36:27.380 --> 00:36:28.320 Goldware, Rebeccah: Like a bench 308 00:36:28.720 --> 00:36:29.260 Bell, Travonne: Yep. 309 00:36:29.410 --> 00:36:30.860 Goldware, Rebeccah: And trees die, sometimes 310 00:36:30.860 --> 00:36:31.580 Bell, Travonne: That's true. 311 00:36:31.580 --> 00:36:34.660 Goldware, Rebeccah: As long as we replant them, and like, keep the carbon right like 312 00:36:34.860 --> 00:36:35.590 Bell, Travonne: Yep. 313 00:36:35.590 --> 00:36:36.280 Goldware, Rebeccah: It's good. 314 00:36:38.120 --> 00:36:40.280 Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, anything else on the Apvp 315 00:36:41.690 --> 00:36:46.070 Goldware, Rebeccah: solid. We'll keep moving forward then. Anything for future meetings. 316 00:36:47.330 --> 00:36:55.610 Goldware, Rebeccah: We'll bring this back. There might be some discussion following Dspc, so that will come up maybe in the fall, and then maybe there'll be 317 00:36:55.780 --> 00:37:00.819 Goldware, Rebeccah: some movement on a name or 2 on Jeff's side. So 318 00:37:01.250 --> 00:37:10.339 Goldware, Rebeccah: we'll see what agenda if there are agenda items. Hussein, especially on your side, is now that the bond is moving. If there are things that please, just let us know 319 00:37:10.740 --> 00:37:11.450 Agah, Hussain: I'll do 320 00:37:11.660 --> 00:37:16.650 Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. Other than that. I don't think there are any next steps. 321 00:37:17.700 --> 00:37:24.960 Goldware, Rebeccah: If other things come up, please let us know we can agendize them, and Renee will follow up early in the fall to get something on our calendars 322 00:37:26.290 --> 00:37:27.150 Goldware, Rebeccah: awesome. 323 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.729 Goldware, Rebeccah: Don't tell anyone you have extra minutes back 324 00:37:29.730 --> 00:37:30.779 Bell, Travonne: Thank you. Everyone. 325 00:37:30.780 --> 00:37:31.859 Goldware, Rebeccah: Have a good one. Happy Friday. 326 00:37:31.950 --> 00:37:32.720 Bell, Travonne: Happy. Friday. 327 00:37:33.020 --> 00:37:33.500 Harris, Vivian: Bye. 328 00:37:33.500 --> 00:37:34.360 Jeff Kaatz: Terrified.