Goldware, Rebeccah: Good morning! Everybody!
Agah, Hussain: Good morning!
Goldware, Rebeccah: I will be on screen in a minute after I get what clearly is jelly off of my screen.
Goldware, Rebeccah: and I know that Renee is laughing at me right now. Oh, good! She's not online. Okay, Ginger's laughing. That's good.
White, Virginia: I'm here here for you
Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. I'm like I can only hear Renee saying hot mess something to that nature
Vigil, Renee: Can't with you. I was gonna text you that you said it out loud.
Vigil, Renee: Happy Friday, everybody happy. Friday. This is an official recorded meeting, too, jelly and all, girl
Goldware, Rebeccah: This meeting is being recorded.
Goldware, Rebeccah: It's for note reasons.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Good morning, everybody
Jeff Kaatz: Morning.
Goldware, Rebeccah: So I there clearly aren't enough boxes yet for everybody to be here. So we'll wait, maybe another minute or 2. If that's okay.
Goldware, Rebeccah: cool.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't know if we have more people coming.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Rene, can you give me a an idea of who is missing?
Goldware, Rebeccah: I got some weird thing on here where I can't see everybody
Vigil, Renee: Jennifer did. Rsvp. It looks like the bulk is here already, though
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, I forget. I guess this is a smaller committee. So okay.
Vigil, Renee: This is a baby committee compared to the larger one. So yeah, I think you're pretty good, and you have forum
Jeff Kaatz: I think read is not here. That's the only one I can think of.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, I think it's part of the discussion today. So we'll go ahead and call the meeting to order.
Goldware, Rebeccah: it's not on here, but I feel like we should just do introductions. I don't know that everybody gets to see and talk to everybody else. So I'm Rebecca older. I'm the Vice Chancellor for institutional advancement and economic development. Jeff, do you want to go? And then, Hussein? And then we can roll through the colleges in whatever order you want to
Jeff Kaatz: Sure Jeff. Cotts, executive director for the Riverside Community College District Foundation
Agah, Hussain: Good morning. This is Hussein Associate, Vice Chancellor, facilities of planning and development.
Agah, Hussain: Virginia
White, Virginia: Virginia White Faculty Biology at Rcc.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Or Vivian, whoever is to or Janelle. Whoever gets to unmute faster
Wortman, Janelle: Janelle Wartman. Facility, utilization Coordinator for Rcc.
Bell, Travonne: I am Trevon Bell. Go by, trey. I'm the director of facilities at Norco.
Bell, Travonne: Sure
Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you, Vivian.
Harris, Vivian: Morning. Happy Friday. Vivian Harris, public Services librarian at Norco College.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you and Rene, just to chime in with more than a last
Vigil, Renee: I'm Rene Vigil Executive Admin assistant to the Vice Chancellor of Institutional Advancement of Economic and economic Development. You know we love long titles at the district. So happy. Friday! Everybody
Goldware, Rebeccah: So thank you. We'll go ahead and do previous minutes from the November meeting. I don't know if anybody has questions comments, but if we could get a motion a second and move that one through
White, Virginia: I moved to accept the minutes from the last meeting. That's Virginia.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you.
Agah, Hussain: I see.
Harris, Vivian: Parents.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. And I'm going to do it the way that Dr. Esoc does it. Are there any abstentions.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Emmy Mace?
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, then we can move those forward. See? Vivian gets to see that. Dspc, right?
Goldware, Rebeccah: That guy's funny sometimes. Okay, topics for discussion. We one of the things that
Goldware, Rebeccah: the collective the district is doing is going through all of the Aps be some of the Bps haven't even been updated. All of Chapter 4, which is the area under advancement has been reviewed. All the those Bps were done.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I think, right around 21
Goldware, Rebeccah: was the last update. Actually, I could probably see what. Sometimes, when you have a hard copy in front of you, you can look at things. Yeah. The 1st one is when it went through board approval. So the Aps haven't necessarily been update.
Goldware, Rebeccah: And so now we're going through again collectively across the district. And I'm trying to get those that are in Chapter 4, 10 facilities. Naming is a board approved committee separate from most of the Dspc. Committees. There's an Ap. That attaches, and it talks about all of our roles and responsibilities and what we do.
Goldware, Rebeccah: So wanted to bring it forward to this group. I'm gonna hand it over to Jeff so that he can. Kind of lead us through this conversation. He's got some talking points.
Goldware, Rebeccah: this is not going to be your only opportunity. So as things come up. Please let us know. I mean they're Ap, so we can always go back and review them, but would like to try to move a draft forward so that general counsel knows that we're working on it. So at this point I'm going to be quiet, and, Jeff, the floor is yours.
Jeff Kaatz: All right. Okay, I'm trying to share my screen. Is it the the board? Okay?
Jeff Kaatz: Alright.
Jeff Kaatz: so I don't know how many of you had a chance to read through this already. But there's there's a few few places where I think we could do some editing, or suggest some edits to to strengthen the document.
Jeff Kaatz: and Rebecca, I know you have a few items, too, that that you'd like to point out the 1st page here. I don't. I don't see anything that that really needs any attention. But if anyone else
Jeff Kaatz: does under items, one or 2
Jeff Kaatz: it's pretty straightforward, I think
Goldware, Rebeccah: So I have like lawyerly questions which I am gonna have separately with Keith of
Goldware, Rebeccah: what is what is the facility?
Goldware, Rebeccah: And I think Hussein would appreciate having a definition there.
Goldware, Rebeccah: And part of that came from a conversation with folks at Norco relative to does the Bench qualify as a facility. Right? So I think that's a side question. I don't think we need to delve into that right now, because we did. We do have a separate path for the colleges to follow. But I think we want a definition at some point or other aspects, which is also in that 1st line of item one. So that's the only
Goldware, Rebeccah: only thing that I would point out there. And that's just a i i mentioned it to Hussein when the 1st question came up from Norco, and we both went. What's the facility? And we went? Dang so. But we still think we've got a path. It's not a problem on Number 2.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I didn't know if we wanted that to match the other Dspc committees, or if this should be a small group.
Goldware, Rebeccah: so there's not
Goldware, Rebeccah: broad representation in the Board Ap. And it could happen that there would almost be no representation from all 3 colleges. We happen to have it. Thank you, Felipe for joining
Goldware, Rebeccah: We happen to have it. But it's not the way that it's written. It doesn't have to happen that way which is different
Goldware, Rebeccah: than the way the Dspc. Committees are set up. But I also don't know if this committee should be the size of some of those Dspc committees. So I want to deposit that for maybe discussion, maybe not determination today. But I don't know if anybody has any thoughts. There
Jeff Kaatz: Doesn't sound like it.
Agah, Hussain: So I have a question. So, Rebecca, what you're saying this, this is a task force, not necessarily a subcommittee of Dspc. Is that correct?
Goldware, Rebeccah: No, this is a board appointed committee that also happens to be tied to the Dspc structure. This committee would exist at least the way the Aps are written. Now this committee would exist regardless of Dspc.
Agah, Hussain: Gotcha
Goldware, Rebeccah: I just don't know if the membership should align.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't know from a faculty perspective, is there? Does it matter? I mean, facilities are
Galicia, Felipe: Did. Well did did the this is a a Board committee. Did the Board have anything in mind about its representation? Did they give any recommendations themselves?
Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't. Well, so this is an Ap. So it goes through the Chancellor.
Goldware, Rebeccah: So the board requires that a committee be formed, but not necessarily the makeup of that committee. The Ap. Was crafted internally and
Goldware, Rebeccah: frankly, probably the way that this was written, and when it was written probably predates. Esoc.
Goldware, Rebeccah: It might predate Esoc, but maybe definitely in the Chancellor's office. But maybe even within the institution I don't know that anybody has had depth of conversation on the structure of this committee
Galicia, Felipe: Well, it sounds like that's the 1st step reach out to the Chancellor and see what his vision is for the committee's membership. He might. He might
Galicia, Felipe: pitch it back to Dspc. To have a discussion about that. But I think that's probably where we start
Goldware, Rebeccah: Does this committee have a recommendation, though.
Goldware, Rebeccah: cause I'd rather take him a recommendation of, we want to keep it the same for X reasons, or we think it should match Gsbc. Because continuity or other reasons
Galicia, Felipe: Well, we we wanna all constituent group representations to begin with. Right then there, you know, we can get a little bit further into the weeds about what that means for faculty, like what are the most appropriate faculty, and so on and so forth. I don't know that I have a recommendation on facilities naming in terms of faculty. At this point it would be any faculty interested in participating to that
Goldware, Rebeccah: Is it? Is it necessary for faculty to be on this committee? I would say yes, but
White, Virginia: I well, I'm gonna hop in as faculty and say, yes, I I think it is. And I think, as defined here.
White, Virginia: that it should be a faculty from each college in the district as determined by the college President in consultation with the academic Senate that gives the academic Senate a voice in who that is, and you know that presumably they come with a
White, Virginia: yeah
White, Virginia: purpose or a reason why they would be the best fit for it. So it seems appropriate to me
Jeff Kaatz: Like that
Galicia, Felipe: Yeah, the Senate would have appointed all faculty to all these committees to begin with. And yeah, they would be the ones to look at. Okay. What is the appropriateness of the appointment to each committee?
Goldware, Rebeccah: So it sounds like, we're okay with this structure, then. And we're we're not gonna recommend changes
Bell, Travonne: I I agree with the structure
Goldware, Rebeccah: Cool.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, thank you. I said I was, gonna be quiet, Jeff, go stop
Jeff Kaatz: Oh, no, you're doing great so I think the next one that I have on my list. You and I both wanted to talk about item general under general guidance for C.
Jeff Kaatz: Should this be non college specific, is that is, that about the let's see.
Jeff Kaatz: Be helpful. If I scroll down there for you.
Jeff Kaatz: Yeah. So this 4 C.
Jeff Kaatz: Not quite sure what the what the ex, what the operational experts are. But, Hussein, you probably
Jeff Kaatz: would be that person, or is there some someone at each college?
Goldware, Rebeccah: We have a number of
Goldware, Rebeccah: facilities that are not tied to the college itself. So part of part of my thought of removing the college bound information.
Goldware, Rebeccah: or it's college and or appropriate like, we would need to tweak that a little bit
Goldware, Rebeccah: because we want Jeff to have the freedom and flexibility to get funds for naming of anything.
Goldware, Rebeccah: even if it's not specific and tied to a college.
Goldware, Rebeccah: So, Hussein, I don't know if you have any specifics there
Agah, Hussain: I don't at this point, to be honest.
Agah, Hussain: just have to think it through a little bit
Goldware, Rebeccah: I mean trey. Would the area administrator in theory be facilities?
Goldware, Rebeccah: Who?
Goldware, Rebeccah: Because if it's I, I mean, it's a facility thing you're not talking about
Goldware, Rebeccah: knowing depth of information in stem or English, or right from a discipline perspective, so
Goldware, Rebeccah: does the operational expert by default become facilities, or maybe the Vp. Of planning or business
Bell, Travonne: I I think.
Bell, Travonne: for for our campus it'll more likely be the Vp. Of business, and then they will, if they have, you know, need recommendations, they will come to facilities. That's typically in this situation, what would happen here at Norco? So
Bell, Travonne: I would assume that's similar at other campuses as well
Goldware, Rebeccah: Janelle, same
Wortman, Janelle: I would agree
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. So maybe it should just tie it back to the Vp
Goldware, Rebeccah: of the appropriate designated area. Because to know, would that be business, or would it be planning at Rcc
Wortman, Janelle: Yeah, it would be the Vp of business services
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Felipe, do you happen to know if it would be Mej or Vp business over at Marina Valley?
Goldware, Rebeccah: I mean, I know that's where facilities reports to. But
Galicia, Felipe: Yeah, it seems it seems likely.
Galicia, Felipe: I don't. I don't know who else would. Maybe if Vp. As car confers with the President. Maybe they but otherwise be hurt
Goldware, Rebeccah: So maybe we wanna tweak that language a little bit to reflect the Vp coordinating with. And then it's the Vp slash ABC, because then it ties to Hussein. Then you're brought into it. Your office
Bell, Travonne: So.
Goldware, Rebeccah: On all of the district, not college specific
Agah, Hussain: Right.
Bell, Travonne: And that's that's typical. Here at Norco. We'll Bill. Dr. Collins is our Vice President, vice President of business services. He would come to me for recommendation.
Bell, Travonne: Call our President, and he would reach out to Hussein's office and talk to Hussein.
Bell, Travonne: We'll come to a consensus and move forward from there. At that point
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay. So maybe Jeff and Hussein, you can tweak that language a little bit to reflect.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Kind of what the group to make sure that it's both the Vps and the Abcs respectively.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Cause. I think the rest of it flows correctly
Jeff Kaatz: Sure I can put. So you said this together and send over to you
Agah, Hussain: Yep. Sounds good.
Jeff Kaatz: I don't know if there's anything in d that. You see, there
Jeff Kaatz: The building name should include the function of that facility and its title. I'm not sure how, if we do that consistently but
Jeff Kaatz: Any thoughts on that
Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't know that we have an example
Jeff Kaatz: Yeah, I couldn't think of anything, but it just occurred to me that
Goldware, Rebeccah: Well, how do like one of the things that came up as I was reading? This is, programs are named like, and it is. It didn't.
Goldware, Rebeccah: If I believe it includes academic programs.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't. Are there new? I mean, of course, there's been new academic programs. But in theory that is approved.
Goldware, Rebeccah: It doesn't need to. I don't think it should go through the facilities naming group right? But if you added.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I can't a discipline
Goldware, Rebeccah: when it came to. And would it have to go through this committee the way that it's set up like I don't know how it goes through. Now,
Goldware, Rebeccah: go ahead
Agah, Hussain: Yeah, I'm just just gonna throw a couple of example we have at Reverse city college, right? We have the Kane building, Victor Charles Kane Administration building. Right? So it's that's this is the Administration building, right? You have the Coyle School of the Arts. So it's named before Coyle, who was a
Agah, Hussain: a donor, but then also talks about the function of the building, which is the being an art, you know, Art Building the latest one. We just opened the fall last year was the life, science, physical science? Well, that's our innovation. But name now, business and law, a business law, and Cis or construction. Sorry and computer information system building. It's like 2 buildings, right?
Agah, Hussain: And that name was not named before any person, right or any. But it was a program, you know, 1 1 wing was for the Admin, for the business alone. The other wing was for the Cis, which is computer information system. That decision made through
Agah, Hussain: the college, and the Chancellor was part of that process
Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, I can talk to her about that. But that's not the way the Ap. Is written that he just gets to decide that it has to go through the, it says, retains authority for naming all facilities, events.
Agah, Hussain: Right programs
Goldware, Rebeccah: And then the board delegates how he has to set this up. So I just
Agah, Hussain: I don't mean
Goldware, Rebeccah: I'm like, sh!
Goldware, Rebeccah: Do we want to pull that like? Should that be pulled out because it's an academic thing.
Goldware, Rebeccah: and it it's going to them. The Board is approving the name. It's just not coming through this committee.
Goldware, Rebeccah: so they're still retaining the approval of it. I just wanna make sure that there's a box checking of, and maybe it gets included here. And this is something I can talk to Keith about offline, unless you all think I'm jumping to a rabbit hole. But
Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't think this committee today, or in the future wants to approve the naming of academic programs
Goldware, Rebeccah: that have gone right
Bell, Travonne: Right.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't think, Ginger, I've seen Ginger's head shake that fast.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Yes.
White, Virginia: All the conversations that we've had
White, Virginia: since I've been a part of the committee is
White, Virginia: talking about naming things after people, not after programs. And so like my assumption was that when a building is built, whoever is involved in the construction of the building, whatever program is involved in that gets a say in what the name of that building is, and then if somebody donates a bunch of money
White, Virginia: to parts of it or to the whole building. Then we have a Comp. Then we have a conversation about putting their name in addition to so like, not that I don't know whether Mr. Kane or his family donated money. But I'm saying like, that's the Administration building. It's named for Kane, so that we would have the conversation about the name. The Kane part of that name, if that was the donation. But that would be it.
Goldware, Rebeccah: So that part's not. I don't think that part's clear in here, so I think maybe we want to add, and I'll I can talk to Keith about it, so we'll just make sure that it's in the notes I think we want to add a section of.
Goldware, Rebeccah: unless it is an honorific or an honorary or philanthropic naming
Goldware, Rebeccah: program, you know. Program naming goes through. And then
Goldware, Rebeccah: I don't know if that's a separate
Goldware, Rebeccah: Ap. Like. That's a different can of worms that I'm maybe opening so, cause I don't think we want to name.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Trio is a bad example. Phoenix. Scholars
Goldware, Rebeccah: right like that's like the colleges have differentiated some program namings.
Goldware, Rebeccah: And I don't think that that's necessarily something that we wanna
Goldware, Rebeccah: see. Okay, so that's something I will have an offline conversation about, but it did come up in that
Goldware, Rebeccah: section. There's also some just as a side. There's some general cleanup where we need to add, or property, or add com as appropriate. So there should be some cleanup on this document.
Goldware, Rebeccah: 2
Jeff Kaatz: I think they could. Probably we could put a sentence somewhere in one of the opening paragraphs of the
Jeff Kaatz: Board Policy, or just that, just as this committee deals with honor, epic, and philanthropic namings so
Goldware, Rebeccah: Yes.
Jeff Kaatz: Okay.
Jeff Kaatz: unless otherwise requested by the Chancellor, because then it leaves us the out of being able to help on other things if it comes up. So, Jeff, to your point. I think that's an easy solution
Goldware, Rebeccah: But leave the other because he may need a group that he hands it to.
Goldware, Rebeccah: to facilitate something. I don't know why, but it leaves a little flexibility.
Goldware, Rebeccah: What's
Jeff Kaatz: Next, let's see. A letter. Let's see. F.
Jeff Kaatz: I think that's pretty clear. I I'm kind of sort sifting through this because we have a there's a naming that we approved last fall that we're still getting kind of stuck in the weeds on getting the plaque actually
Jeff Kaatz: put up for the chef, Bobby in culinary school.
Jeff Kaatz: because it was an honorary naming. So the President kind of walks out through. If it's a philanthropic, then our office sort of walks it through and
Jeff Kaatz: and then, if it's honorary, then it's
Jeff Kaatz: paid for out of the district budget. I believe it says later on in this document.
Jeff Kaatz: but I don't think if there's anything else in that one that you want to talk about, we can
Agah, Hussain: Jeff, I have just comment on E, and regarding the plague. We always. Once we open a new project, we have a building a plaque, and that recognized the Board of Trustees
Agah, Hussain: and Chancellor and the President.
Agah, Hussain: We have a standard design standard that's inherited. It's not part of our district standard, but something we've been using over the last 10 years. I you know it's as simple it could be. It doesn't have any credential for the board.
Agah, Hussain: you know there's no like Board President or discrediterry, or what have you? I just list all the board members and list the President and the
Agah, Hussain: and the Chancellor
Agah, Hussain: and and that's really applies. For you know, major renovation, you know, new projects and so forth. So we have those, you know. We we add that, but it's not
Agah, Hussain: name before any any person or
Agah, Hussain: in memorial of anyone just just wanted.
Agah, Hussain: Everyone should be aware of that
Jeff Kaatz: Okay.
Jeff Kaatz: Alright. Is there anything else in in
Jeff Kaatz: Item 4.
Jeff Kaatz: Not. We can move on in in 5.
Jeff Kaatz: I don't. I didn't see anything in there, or Rebecca that
Jeff Kaatz: needs to get tweaked. It's that one's pretty clear to me. But
Jeff Kaatz: any of you have questions we can talk about them
Goldware, Rebeccah: It would only be for clarification on honorary namings that they're probably we probably wanna talk about having a term
Goldware, Rebeccah: that they're not in perpetuity and potentially on our building namings. I don't know
Jeff Kaatz: Yeah. So I I don't. I'm not aware of any namings that have gone through that have been for terms. I think all the ones that I'm aware of, or they've been there. There's I guess there's no
Goldware, Rebeccah: I think part of the reason this comes up is because you have some buildings that are coming down in across multiple of the colleges, and some of those buildings have names on them.
Jeff Kaatz: Right.
Goldware, Rebeccah: And I think that's why some of the colleges and what do we do? Do we switch to a plaque, which is what happens
Goldware, Rebeccah: when certain right when Noble when Kane got built, Noble came down. Now there's a plaque somewhere in Kane outside of the President's office about recognizing Noble cool. When
Goldware, Rebeccah: the PAL building comes down. The business building is gonna come down at some point.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Rcc is going to have to determine where they're if and where they're gonna put a plaque
Goldware, Rebeccah: for Alan Powell Trey. I know there's a couple of buildings at Norco that that we've talked about that are
Bell, Travonne: Yeah, we where we came our plan. With Vice President, Vice President of business services, and our our president here at the college. The executive cabinet for our our campus discuss
Bell, Travonne: that whenever we
Bell, Travonne: demolish like, we're demolishing our cat building and we're relocating those programs to the stem center that will create a plaque and place it in the stem center somewhere. We would designate a wall or something to place it on. Place that plaque on, and it would do the same like. For for example, we get a planner donated to the college or a tree, and for some reason, because we're doing construction. That tree has to be uprooted.
Bell, Travonne: We may end up creating a a plaque and putting it on our legacy wall in our Css. Css. 2 17 built a room.
Bell, Travonne: But that's our plan here at our campus. We also have plaques that we just happen to don't know what was written on it, because it's faded from wear and tear from the sun, and things like that. So we would reach out to the foundation and ask if they have that information, if they don't, we would just
Bell, Travonne: at the end of the day. We don't. We don't know what it says.
Jeff Kaatz: Yeah.
Bell, Travonne: And so also for for
Bell, Travonne: for a a bench we have a bench on our campus that it that was donated to us, we consider that an asset
Bell, Travonne: not necessarily a facility.
Goldware, Rebeccah: See? Yeah.
Bell, Travonne: Yes.
Goldware, Rebeccah: This is great like. I would love it to stay as an asset and not facility, because then it keeps it out of our space right for here, and it allows the colleges to move and do within flexibility. And I did have a conversation with Michael, and was like this wall that he's talking about. And hopefully, Jeffy's talked with you about it. It ties with the President's circle and some of her goals. I just
Goldware, Rebeccah: Yeah, I I think Norco and Riverside, specifically, because they've got names on buildings that are being impacted. I think, both have
Goldware, Rebeccah: either existing or plans forward that are really good and align, and then tie forward with other philanthropic opportunities which is really great. So thank yeah, I thank you for sharing that I had. I I knew Michael was working on some stuff. So that's really great.
Goldware, Rebeccah: What else
Jeff Kaatz: So so item 6 and and 7 kind of
Jeff Kaatz: kind of help guide us when there's, you know, a building comes down. If there's someone. If there's a name and it's not, it's we're not obligated to to keep that name on the new building. But you know, I think there's some.
Jeff Kaatz: you know, communications that that would often be done with family members if there are any still alive from associated with that naming.
Jeff Kaatz: Yeah.
Jeff Kaatz: Most any other questions about that those those sections of 6 or 7,
Jeff Kaatz: and then on signage. Let's see.
Jeff Kaatz: Sorry am I keeping up with my scrolling responsibilities.
Jeff Kaatz: So the only, I guess kind of gets to what we just talked about, Rebecca, the last paragraph of of 8, all areas where students, staff, and public gather. You know these public, these assets? Not necessarily public facilities, I mean I I
Jeff Kaatz: I I would love to see that part go away and just leave that up for the colleges.
Jeff Kaatz: But yeah, I don't know how the rest of you feel
Goldware, Rebeccah: My general preference is to leave as much to the colleges as possible. So if there is a plaque or a bench to trace point that you all want to move.
Goldware, Rebeccah: You should be able to do that
Jeff Kaatz: Yeah, just another informational item to I, Mark Wendy, my sister and I have been doing some initial research on.
Jeff Kaatz: because I know there's some of the colors are talking about putting in donor walls and so on. But, one of the things we we want to encourage people to consider, is there? There are these virtual recognition walls that are are very
Jeff Kaatz: handy and also the ones that are fixed on you can put them on. So there, there's more like screens that are embedded onto the wall or tabs that can be easily updated from an office somewhere where someone is a new donor comes
Jeff Kaatz: and gives a gift. It can. It can be easily added, just from the computer, and then it will show up and they can be scroll. They can be scrolling through, or they can be, you know, just up there. But
Jeff Kaatz: I think students are probably more likely to look at those because they're used to looking at screens.
Jeff Kaatz: But anyway.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I think you can also post those on your sites, though, too so
Jeff Kaatz: Websites. There's there's a web recognition that walls or not walls but waste ways to to acknowledge gifts.
Jeff Kaatz: So yeah.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay.
Jeff Kaatz: Nope, that's everything on my list.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I know this was a quick review.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Again, it's an Ap. So it's gonna go through 400 other people.
Goldware, Rebeccah: we're happy to bring this back. I don't at a future meeting, but this group is not going to be slated to meet again until probably
Goldware, Rebeccah: August, September, October.
Goldware, Rebeccah: So
Goldware, Rebeccah: I'm happy to email any draft out to provide comments. But I would like, I mean, from a staff perspective. I do need to keep this moving forward
Goldware, Rebeccah: is that? Does that work for everybody that I can send it out to you all. We won't say that you've approved it because you haven't unless you're comfortable with it. We could take an electronic vote at some point because I do. My my hope is to have this at least for a potential 1st rate at Dspc. In May and or June, so that it can come back in the fall, so I could bring it back to you all at our fall meeting. I don't know that that would be in advance of Dspc. Second, read, though.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Vivian, do you really want to review it before it goes to Dspc
Harris, Vivian: My computer must be loving this meeting because it's just sending all these memojis. So yeah, it's been
Harris, Vivian: thumbs up over here
Goldware, Rebeccah: Wow! She really wants
Harris, Vivian: I'm on a device I normally don't use. So I'm just glad it's working. And it's like not freezing or doing things I'm like, oh, these things I was trying to do the thumb, and then everything else came. But I will read through whatever you give me, if you, if you need me to no problem
Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. So I guess the intent is that we'll finish. We'll try to get a draft done before the end of the month. But let's say early May. We'll get it all out to you, because, we'll
Goldware, Rebeccah: we'll try to make Dspc. In May. But I'll probably aim for June.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Is there a June meeting?
Goldware, Rebeccah: Felipe? Who knows? Oh, Hussein knows there's a g meeting. Okay.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I'm like somebody has to know if there's do me
Agah, Hussain: I have a 12 items coming to that board. So yes, I know
Goldware, Rebeccah: Whoa! Whoa!
Agah, Hussain: In a preparation for the bond. Yes, 12 items
Goldware, Rebeccah: Could Dspc.
Agah, Hussain: Probably one of 2 to Dspc, but the rest just consent. Items
Goldware, Rebeccah: Just one or 2 to Dspc. That's fine. I just. But I want to go to Dsp. I don't. Wanna. I guess I want to go before you
Goldware, Rebeccah: is what I'm saying.
Goldware, Rebeccah: So we'll get. We'll get a draft together. We'll get it out to the group in advance of it being agenda as you're going to Dspc and get me updated comments again just on the Ap. So we'll red line what we talked about.
Goldware, Rebeccah: and we'll go from there we'll have him. Our next meeting would be again, or probably fall sometime early fall, unless there's some
Goldware, Rebeccah: magical gift that Jeff gets that we don't know about that. Somebody wants to put their name on a building which he could do. I have full
Jeff Kaatz: Working on it.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Awesome. Okay. Anything else on the Ap. Bp, in general.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, anything for future meetings.
Goldware, Rebeccah: I feel like the colleges have enough to go with, to be able to work with
Bell, Travonne: Bye.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Buildings and whatnot.
Bell, Travonne: Yeah, I just like just to find out what the clarification is on. What's a facility? Because, you know, like I said, our our campus take, you know, the donation
Goldware, Rebeccah: Asset.
Bell, Travonne: It's an asset
Goldware, Rebeccah: Different. Yeah, no, you've you've coded it as an asset. Hussein.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Right? That's an asset that's not a facility. Yeah, see?
Goldware, Rebeccah: Agreement. It's great. So yeah, keep going until something that that, and that's the direction we're going. So you'll be good.
Bell, Travonne: If if so, we had a donor, probably like a month ago, come to our campus. They donated
Bell, Travonne: some artwork from their family, and it had to be relocated because we had to do some renovations in our library. We had a flood a couple of years ago, and we had to relocate that. And are we supposed to notify the families?
Bell, Travonne: Okay, yeah, they were upset. And I'm like, well, it's here just relocated it
Goldware, Rebeccah: No, once they gave it to you, is yours unless they committed you to a location, and that would have been in writing somewhere, so no, once they give it to you, is yours like, if somebody got a piano, and then they had to move the piano
Bell, Travonne: That's why I think those are assets.
Bell, Travonne: Yes, correct.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Like a bench
Bell, Travonne: Yep.
Goldware, Rebeccah: And trees die, sometimes
Bell, Travonne: That's true.
Goldware, Rebeccah: As long as we replant them, and like, keep the carbon right like
Bell, Travonne: Yep.
Goldware, Rebeccah: It's good.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Okay, anything else on the Apvp
Goldware, Rebeccah: solid. We'll keep moving forward then. Anything for future meetings.
Goldware, Rebeccah: We'll bring this back. There might be some discussion following Dspc, so that will come up maybe in the fall, and then maybe there'll be
Goldware, Rebeccah: some movement on a name or 2 on Jeff's side. So
Goldware, Rebeccah: we'll see what agenda if there are agenda items. Hussein, especially on your side, is now that the bond is moving. If there are things that please, just let us know
Agah, Hussain: I'll do
Goldware, Rebeccah: Thank you. Other than that. I don't think there are any next steps.
Goldware, Rebeccah: If other things come up, please let us know we can agendize them, and Renee will follow up early in the fall to get something on our calendars
Goldware, Rebeccah: awesome.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Don't tell anyone you have extra minutes back
Bell, Travonne: Thank you. Everyone.
Goldware, Rebeccah: Have a good one. Happy Friday.
Bell, Travonne: Happy. Friday.
Harris, Vivian: Bye.
Jeff Kaatz: Terrified.