WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.040 --> 00:00:11.700 Eva Petty: Okay. Do we notice if anyone else's waiting are looking to come in. 2 00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:14.160 Sorry about that. 3 00:00:15.420 --> 00:00:17.250 Eva Petty: Um, OK. So I'll call the meeting to 4 00:00:17.250 --> 00:00:17.820 Order. 5 00:00:20.100 --> 00:00:20.910 Eva Petty: Hi everyone. 6 00:00:25.710 --> 00:00:26.730 Eva Petty: Sort of business. 7 00:00:27.690 --> 00:00:29.580 Eva Petty: Will be starting off with the Pledge of Allegiance. 8 00:00:30.870 --> 00:00:35.040 Eva Petty: So where ever you believe there may be a flag. 9 00:00:36.570 --> 00:00:38.160 Eva Petty: Just go ahead and place your 10 00:00:39.450 --> 00:00:46.350 Eva Petty: I'm sorry. Oh yeah, just there's I live on a very patriotic Street. So all I have to do is just look out the window. 11 00:00:47.940 --> 00:00:53.460 Eva Petty: Alright so raise your hand. Um, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 12 00:00:54.330 --> 00:00:54.510 Mary Figueroa iPad: And 13 00:00:54.780 --> 00:00:55.980 Eva Petty: To the Republic for you. 14 00:00:57.750 --> 00:00:58.350 Eva Petty: Nation. 15 00:00:58.680 --> 00:00:59.550 Eva Petty: Under God 16 00:00:59.970 --> 00:01:01.890 Eva Petty: Indivisible, with liberty. 17 00:01:01.980 --> 00:01:03.330 Eva Petty: And justice for all. 18 00:01:07.890 --> 00:01:18.690 Eva Petty: Okay. Um, so the first thing what we want to do this. The first agenda item is to select a chair. Um, do we have any nominations 19 00:01:21.330 --> 00:01:24.030 Patricia: Hi this is Patricia rentals and 20 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.640 Patricia: I had spoken earlier to 21 00:01:27.720 --> 00:01:41.970 Patricia: Bosnia to see if she would be interested. And she said she was, and I think she expects to join us if she's not already on. So I would like to nominate Claudia Rizvi for chair. 22 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:52.890 Eva Petty: Does is are there any other nominations 23 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:57.690 Philip Falcone: No, no, I can you hear me. Vice Chair petty can 24 00:01:57.810 --> 00:01:58.560 Philip Falcone: I can. Okay. 25 00:01:58.590 --> 00:02:00.060 Philip Falcone: I would like to nominate up 26 00:02:00.990 --> 00:02:06.330 Philip Falcone: I would like to nominate a committee member or an Avery for chair, please. 27 00:02:07.530 --> 00:02:14.340 Eva Petty: Okay, so we have Fazio Rizvi and Warren Avery nominated for chair. 28 00:02:15.660 --> 00:02:16.710 Eva Petty: Do we have 29 00:02:18.180 --> 00:02:20.700 Eva Petty: Any other nominations currently going 30 00:02:24.180 --> 00:02:27.030 Philip Falcone: And we need, of course, a second on some of these nominations to 31 00:02:27.150 --> 00:02:33.480 Eva Petty: Okay, so for thought. I'm so sorry if I mispronounced fuzzy 32 00:02:36.150 --> 00:02:40.470 Eva Petty: All who vote for Fozzie say I 33 00:02:51.690 --> 00:02:52.860 Eva Petty: I am so sorry. 34 00:02:53.940 --> 00:02:55.320 Eva Petty: I have to apologize. 35 00:02:56.490 --> 00:02:58.170 Eva Petty: My heart is in my neck right now. 36 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:02.970 warrenavery: Deep breath. You're all good. You're doing great. 37 00:03:03.600 --> 00:03:04.080 Okay. 38 00:03:05.970 --> 00:03:10.860 Eva Petty: Um, the second the motion for classy. 39 00:03:12.090 --> 00:03:13.530 Eva Petty: Okay, second 40 00:03:15.180 --> 00:03:16.740 Eva Petty: There was one I did hear one 41 00:03:19.980 --> 00:03:23.880 Eva Petty: Okay and I'm for Warren 42 00:03:25.830 --> 00:03:28.080 Eva Petty: To second nomination for Warren 43 00:03:31.620 --> 00:03:36.750 warrenavery: And I guess I'll second. For myself, just so I don't look like I went out without a second I mean jeez. 44 00:03:39.690 --> 00:03:40.890 warrenavery: Right, but just 45 00:03:42.600 --> 00:03:48.450 Philip Falcone: Are all of our board of all our committee members present because, um, it seems unusual. We haven't gotten we 46 00:03:49.860 --> 00:03:58.320 Philip Falcone: Maybe we should have done a roll call first I was like I don't know who's let me. Like I said, look at the participants, but want to see if we have we have members. So we should be able to have up 47 00:03:59.190 --> 00:03:59.760 Philip Falcone: There. Okay. 48 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:02.550 warrenavery: Yeah, just to establish a quorum. Maybe that we have enough 49 00:04:02.610 --> 00:04:03.000 Yeah. 50 00:04:04.200 --> 00:04:15.240 Eva Petty: Okay, that's, that's also, um, I noticed that. And I don't know if it might be a technical issue but Dwight Tate, it continues to say that it's connecting to auto I'm an audio. 51 00:04:16.650 --> 00:04:20.220 Eva Petty: So he may have some technical issues. 52 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:29.370 Eva Petty: And then I'm okay. So, committee members and 53 00:04:30.690 --> 00:04:31.680 Eva Petty: Confirm your 54 00:04:32.700 --> 00:04:37.530 Eva Petty: Presence. So by share even here, Philip balcony. 55 00:04:38.940 --> 00:04:39.690 Philip Falcone: Yes, I'm here. 56 00:04:40.440 --> 00:04:42.150 Eva Petty: Okay, Warren. Avery. 57 00:04:42.570 --> 00:04:49.080 Eva Petty: Here, um, I, I believe that Dwight is here. I can see them, but I don't know if he's if we can hear them. 58 00:04:51.330 --> 00:04:53.370 Eva Petty: And then Patricia rentals. 59 00:04:53.670 --> 00:04:58.230 Eva Petty: Here. Thank you. I'm Mike ball Michael Ball. 60 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:00.930 And 61 00:05:01.950 --> 00:05:05.880 Dwight: This is why I am on my phone. Okay. Hi, Dwight. 62 00:05:05.910 --> 00:05:06.930 Eva Petty: Okay, so you're here. 63 00:05:09.660 --> 00:05:13.410 Eva Petty: All right. And then, so I didn't catch is Mike ball in 64 00:05:14.490 --> 00:05:14.910 Eva Petty: In 65 00:05:18.390 --> 00:05:19.590 Eva Petty: Okay, so we don't have 66 00:05:21.420 --> 00:05:24.060 Eva Petty: Mike and and Fozzie 67 00:05:26.010 --> 00:05:26.580 Patricia: I'm hearing 68 00:05:27.630 --> 00:05:33.480 Patricia: I'm hearing. She might be on the YouTube station, instead of having called in 69 00:05:34.650 --> 00:05:39.570 Renee Vigil: Here I just texted her to to to get onto the login for the zoom call 70 00:05:41.220 --> 00:05:43.740 Eva Petty: Yeah, I was a little confused myself. Okay. 71 00:05:45.090 --> 00:05:45.420 Eva Petty: Okay. 72 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.000 Eva Petty: Has anyone heard from Mr ball. 73 00:06:01.350 --> 00:06:02.910 Rebeccah Goldware: I just sent him a message. 74 00:06:04.650 --> 00:06:05.430 Eva Petty: Thank you, Rebecca. 75 00:06:38.820 --> 00:06:40.470 warrenavery: Just as a as a question. I mean, 76 00:06:40.470 --> 00:06:41.880 warrenavery: We, we hope that I hope that 77 00:06:41.910 --> 00:06:49.980 warrenavery: Miss Rizvi and Mr bowler both joining. How long do we, because we have five right we have five here. So we do have a quorum, so 78 00:06:50.970 --> 00:06:57.120 warrenavery: Just in the interest of everybody's time that the the 20 people that are on the call, you know, currently here staff and and otherwise. 79 00:06:58.200 --> 00:06:58.440 warrenavery: Yeah. 80 00:06:58.980 --> 00:07:00.720 warrenavery: Everybody's time. How long do we 81 00:07:01.230 --> 00:07:04.350 warrenavery: How long do we give that is that a vice chair pays decision. 82 00:07:05.880 --> 00:07:08.070 warrenavery: Or do we just is there. 83 00:07:09.270 --> 00:07:16.920 warrenavery: How long do we wait I guess being the RCC right Professor doesn't show up a couple minutes. Everybody, everybody gets to leave class right so 84 00:07:17.520 --> 00:07:18.360 warrenavery: Are we in the same 85 00:07:18.390 --> 00:07:19.500 Eva Petty: We all receive credit 86 00:07:20.070 --> 00:07:26.850 warrenavery: Right. You know, I mean, maybe some people waited longer I was the 10 minute guy myself. I was like, all right now but 87 00:07:27.960 --> 00:07:28.860 Eva Petty: Basia made it 88 00:07:33.450 --> 00:07:37.650 Eva Petty: You're, you're on mute. Miss you're on mute. Miss Basia 89 00:07:37.980 --> 00:07:39.090 Fauzia Rizvi: I apologize. 90 00:07:40.890 --> 00:07:45.840 Fauzia Rizvi: I said I'm sorry to make everybody. Wait, I apologize. Trying having logging issues. 91 00:07:47.940 --> 00:07:48.120 Eva Petty: It's 92 00:07:49.500 --> 00:07:50.610 Eva Petty: Okay, so 93 00:07:51.840 --> 00:07:53.550 Eva Petty: Fuzzy and Miss Patricia had 94 00:07:54.690 --> 00:08:00.150 Eva Petty: She had nominated you for chair and. So just going back 95 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:02.430 Eva Petty: I was 96 00:08:04.350 --> 00:08:06.150 Eva Petty: Looking for second. 97 00:08:07.200 --> 00:08:09.660 Eva Petty: The motion to elect Jewish chair. 98 00:08:11.130 --> 00:08:16.320 Eva Petty: So we can just restart that again. So in so all second for Fawzia 99 00:08:23.250 --> 00:08:23.790 Eva Petty: Put your should 100 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:26.550 Renee Vigil: I was 101 00:08:28.530 --> 00:08:30.240 Renee Vigil: Looking second 102 00:08:40.920 --> 00:08:47.130 Eva Petty: Okay, so we have, but we do have one second, Patricia seconds the 103 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:56.010 Eva Petty: The motion to nominate Plaza. Do we have a second I'm sorry she nominated, but we need a second. Do we have a second 104 00:08:59.400 --> 00:08:59.790 Eva Petty: Okay. 105 00:09:00.780 --> 00:09:02.610 Fauzia Rizvi: In a second. Can I say can 106 00:09:03.750 --> 00:09:03.870 Fauzia Rizvi: I 107 00:09:03.900 --> 00:09:04.410 Learn 108 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.900 warrenavery: I second in my you so you're all good. We're fine. 109 00:09:10.290 --> 00:09:10.710 Okay. 110 00:09:12.450 --> 00:09:13.740 Eva Petty: Okay, so we 111 00:09:14.100 --> 00:09:26.970 Eva Petty: So petition nominated pasa pasa second the nomination. Next we have worn Philip had us Philip had nominated Warren and Warren second. And so now we have 112 00:09:28.830 --> 00:09:32.130 Eva Petty: One in. Is there anyone that will 113 00:09:34.680 --> 00:09:36.540 Eva Petty: Go for Lauren 114 00:09:39.210 --> 00:09:40.140 Eva Petty: On terminology 115 00:09:40.680 --> 00:09:42.780 Philip Falcone: Or you call it for calling for a vote. 116 00:09:43.290 --> 00:09:45.720 Eva Petty: Yes, I'm calling for about four Warren 117 00:09:46.380 --> 00:09:48.660 Philip Falcone: Okay, and then go in and make a roll call. We can vote that way. 118 00:09:50.130 --> 00:09:55.020 Eva Petty: Okay so real call. We'll start with Patricia Reynolds 119 00:09:56.460 --> 00:09:56.910 Eva Petty: Your vote. 120 00:09:58.230 --> 00:09:58.680 Patricia: No. 121 00:10:00.180 --> 00:10:00.660 Eva Petty: Okay. 122 00:10:01.740 --> 00:10:02.430 Eva Petty: For 123 00:10:03.930 --> 00:10:04.860 Eva Petty: Two white 124 00:10:05.610 --> 00:10:06.270 Tate 125 00:10:08.760 --> 00:10:10.890 Dwight: No. Okay. 126 00:10:11.250 --> 00:10:12.030 For 127 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.240 Eva Petty: See, Philip balcony. 128 00:10:16.470 --> 00:10:16.980 Philip Falcone: Yes. 129 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.430 Eva Petty: For fossa risky. 130 00:10:24.150 --> 00:10:24.570 No. 131 00:10:29.970 --> 00:10:32.250 Eva Petty: Did I get everyone in the committee. 132 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:34.230 Philip Falcone: Now you have you and 133 00:10:34.470 --> 00:10:36.480 Eva Petty: Oh, and then there's myself about 134 00:10:38.160 --> 00:10:39.180 Eva Petty: I vote yes 135 00:10:40.860 --> 00:10:45.660 Eva Petty: For Warren. Okay, and then I'll call to vote for fascia. 136 00:10:46.650 --> 00:10:49.710 warrenavery: And I'll just read sure I vote I vote yes for 137 00:10:49.920 --> 00:11:02.670 warrenavery: For myself, Eva, you didn't call on me and you should probably just call on Mr. Wall, just to make sure he's not there. So unless we've already established that he is not present, and we don't need to call his, his name. I don't know how that works. 138 00:11:03.060 --> 00:11:10.500 Rebeccah Goldware: I can affirm to you that he is not on because he is trying to get the piece on the YouTube access. So he is. He is not on this, like, as I brought up so 139 00:11:11.460 --> 00:11:11.670 Okay. 140 00:11:12.990 --> 00:11:16.620 Eva Petty: In that case, do we still do we still wait 141 00:11:18.300 --> 00:11:18.690 Eva Petty: Okay. 142 00:11:19.170 --> 00:11:20.550 Philip Falcone: You have a forum so we're good to go. 143 00:11:21.090 --> 00:11:24.330 Eva Petty: Okay, alright. So, moving to a 144 00:11:25.530 --> 00:11:38.250 Eva Petty: So that's 343 vote for yes for Warren. OK. And then so for Fazio we will copper vote, starting with Patricia rentals. 145 00:11:38.580 --> 00:11:40.530 Eva Petty: Yes. Okay. 146 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:43.980 Eva Petty: For Dwight Tate 147 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:51.990 Eva Petty: Philip, Connie. 148 00:11:52.890 --> 00:11:53.250 Know, 149 00:11:55.710 --> 00:11:56.700 Eva Petty: Warren every 150 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:57.810 Know, 151 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:02.280 Eva Petty: And then myself. 152 00:12:03.390 --> 00:12:03.900 Eva Petty: No. 153 00:12:05.040 --> 00:12:06.990 Eva Petty: I believe that the that's a tie. 154 00:12:07.230 --> 00:12:08.640 warrenavery: Misery you forgotten history. 155 00:12:08.640 --> 00:12:10.890 Eva Petty: Yes, I miss was be. I'm so sorry. 156 00:12:10.920 --> 00:12:12.390 Fauzia Rizvi: Misery has been no, it's okay. 157 00:12:13.290 --> 00:12:14.430 Fauzia Rizvi: Even back line. 158 00:12:17.940 --> 00:12:19.770 Eva Petty: This would have to happen. Um, 159 00:12:19.920 --> 00:12:20.820 Okay, so 160 00:12:22.620 --> 00:12:27.570 Rebeccah Goldware: I have a clarifying question, point of order, and I don't know who is a parliamentarian, and I 161 00:12:28.170 --> 00:12:41.160 Rebeccah Goldware: Forgive me if I need to look this up but as the chair and does the chair vote in the action that is happening or does the chair take action. Okay, I was asking a clarifying question. I see. Philip. Thank you. 162 00:12:42.300 --> 00:12:43.320 Philip Falcone: Yeah, sure. Does vote. 163 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.110 Eva Petty: Okay, so the votes are tied 164 00:12:50.370 --> 00:12:53.520 Eva Petty: If I'm not mistaken, and I do the count. Right. Yeah. 165 00:12:55.560 --> 00:13:00.330 Eva Petty: So this wasn't as cut and dry as I thought it was 166 00:13:00.780 --> 00:13:01.110 Philip Falcone: Going 167 00:13:01.140 --> 00:13:05.250 Eva Petty: To be. I apologize for my lack of education on 168 00:13:06.420 --> 00:13:14.070 Eva Petty: What we do next. So maybe Phillip or Warren or fozia or Patricia. If any of you have 169 00:13:15.870 --> 00:13:19.680 Eva Petty: Any experience on what we do next. If there's a tight. 170 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.200 warrenavery: I'm unsure, in this case. 171 00:13:25.800 --> 00:13:31.590 Patricia: I'm assuming it might be in the bylaws. And that's normally where election rules are kept. 172 00:13:32.850 --> 00:13:45.510 David Casnocha: Excuse me. This is David casnocha bylaws done or dress a tie, but my suggestion would be that since you have a seventh member who is trying to join the meeting and that vote is going to represent the 173 00:13:46.290 --> 00:14:02.340 David Casnocha: Tie breaking vote that you just move on to the next agenda item and come back to this when the, when the person who's trying to get in joins and then you can have him cast a vote for either of the two candidates and that will determine the winner. 174 00:14:05.910 --> 00:14:13.350 warrenavery: And let's just say right that's. That sounds like a great plan if he does not show up right if he does not. And it looks like he's trying to log in. 175 00:14:26.280 --> 00:14:28.200 Philip Falcone: Hi. My so bring mike up to speed. 176 00:14:29.340 --> 00:14:49.650 Eva Petty: You know, Philip. Gosh darn it. Okay, so you're on. Okay, Mike. So we're we're voting to select chair. We have fascia and Warren I'm nominated and there and it's tight so I will 177 00:14:50.940 --> 00:14:54.420 Eva Petty: Ask you, will you vote for Warren 178 00:14:56.730 --> 00:14:58.050 Eva Petty: Would that be yes or no. 179 00:15:01.170 --> 00:15:01.890 Eva Petty: And you're on mute. 180 00:15:02.820 --> 00:15:05.940 David Casnocha: Maybe you should just ask between the two candidates, which would 181 00:15:06.210 --> 00:15:08.460 David Casnocha: Prefer to vote yes for. And then there's a 182 00:15:08.490 --> 00:15:09.630 Mike Vahl: Wobble for Warren 183 00:15:11.370 --> 00:15:16.020 Eva Petty: Okay, so, um, so between fuzzier and Warren, you're going from one 184 00:15:17.310 --> 00:15:18.750 Mike Vahl: Sure that sounds fine. 185 00:15:19.980 --> 00:15:20.610 warrenavery: OK. 186 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:22.230 Eva Petty: So, 187 00:15:23.910 --> 00:15:36.960 Eva Petty: The selection of the chair, it will be. I believe that it's a four votes for votes to three Warren, you have been nominated chair for all those on 188 00:15:38.610 --> 00:15:39.210 Eva Petty: Saying I 189 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:43.260 warrenavery: Have been voted done 190 00:15:43.290 --> 00:15:50.520 warrenavery: So I appreciate it. Alright, so I guess we'll just. We'll just move on going here. So, uh, 191 00:15:51.600 --> 00:16:00.870 warrenavery: So Next on the agenda, then, is public comment. I understand that the public comments need to be written so 192 00:16:01.980 --> 00:16:06.120 warrenavery: Is that Renee, or is that you miss cold where that has the public comments to be read. 193 00:16:08.070 --> 00:16:13.890 warrenavery: Is that I'll refer to whoever on staff receive those comments to read them three them now. 194 00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:19.080 Rebeccah Goldware: Sure. At this point, as of this point and you can correct me if I'm wrong. We have received no public comment. 195 00:16:23.130 --> 00:16:26.820 Renee Vigil: That is correct. I just checked the email. Again, we haven't received any public comment. 196 00:16:28.170 --> 00:16:28.650 warrenavery: Okay. 197 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:42.900 warrenavery: I am going to, I don't see it in the agenda. So I'm going to give this time for any committee members that if you have a comment to me because there was a I see a lot of times in meetings at the end of it. 198 00:16:43.470 --> 00:16:54.930 warrenavery: Where if a committee member has anything updates or anything they would like to say, I'll give it that time now. So if you do raise your hand and I'll call on you. If you have any comments to add 199 00:16:59.250 --> 00:17:01.440 warrenavery: All right, all right, Mr. Miss Falcon. 200 00:17:03.540 --> 00:17:11.280 Philip Falcone: I couldn't find my raise hand button fast enough. I am having some Wi Fi connectivity issues. So I'm going to try that connection to my phone in a minute here. 201 00:17:11.700 --> 00:17:21.360 Philip Falcone: Have a can. Everyone's still hear me, I know my wife has been kind of spotty today. Okay. Thanks. Good. I had a question of, I think it's of staff is it. Do we no longer accept 202 00:17:22.230 --> 00:17:33.750 Philip Falcone: comments from the public in real time. Is it, I noticed on the agenda, it says public comments must be submitted electronically before noon, the day of the meeting of is that the only method of public comment. 203 00:17:34.980 --> 00:17:35.700 Philip Falcone: That we allow know 204 00:17:36.690 --> 00:17:45.480 Rebeccah Goldware: Hey, we are following this structure that the Board of Trustees is following and there is a timeline for receiving request for public comment. It does not require that it had to be 205 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.660 Rebeccah Goldware: We had to receive the email but their comment does not have to be 206 00:17:49.140 --> 00:17:55.050 Rebeccah Goldware: Written so they could be. It allows us to give them, whoever the public is access to this meeting. 207 00:17:55.320 --> 00:18:04.770 Rebeccah Goldware: With that with security measures in place. So we're following the same structure that the Board of Trustees is following. Having said that, I did ask Renee to as she just did. 208 00:18:05.340 --> 00:18:13.860 Rebeccah Goldware: To affirm that when we got to the point of public comment I during the agenda today. We had addressed anything that had come through, whether it had been passed that timeline or not. 209 00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:26.640 Philip Falcone: Okay, so someone wants to comment, they would just, they would send it for the time being, of course, while we're meeting virtually they would send an email to request a link to then speak to the public comment if they want to speak if they don't want to do an email. 210 00:18:27.270 --> 00:18:29.130 Dwight: Correct, correct. 211 00:18:29.250 --> 00:18:38.460 Philip Falcone: Okay, thank you. Because I wanted to make sure that we're having, especially since being that the citizens, go and make sure we have as many options for people to be involved the community to be 212 00:18:38.460 --> 00:18:41.850 Philip Falcone: Involved as possible. So, okay. Thank you for clarifying that. I appreciate that. 213 00:18:43.260 --> 00:18:59.070 warrenavery: And I will just as a follow up to medium inner Falco, and if there is a way that we can do, whether it be a call in line. I know some other cities where maybe they're not doing a zoom because I understand the security issues around 214 00:18:59.280 --> 00:19:01.230 warrenavery: Zoom and and somebody 215 00:19:01.530 --> 00:19:16.140 warrenavery: sabotaging. That way I don't, that's the right word to use, but that way if there's a way to do a call in number. I think that that would be appropriate moving forward. I believed it like Philip said, we are representatives of our community and the citizens and 216 00:19:17.520 --> 00:19:23.550 warrenavery: So if we can do that for the next meeting, I would ask the staff to look into a way that we can have a call in number. 217 00:19:23.700 --> 00:19:24.240 Mike Vahl: Well, the 218 00:19:24.300 --> 00:19:24.930 Mike Vahl: War that are 219 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:27.450 warrenavery: Not part of the zoom, zoom, zoom 220 00:19:27.930 --> 00:19:38.940 Mike Vahl: Was a function of zoom is there's a call in numbers. So because not everybody uses cameras so you can have it right on the number and it'll just have a black screen with a phone number underneath it. 221 00:19:40.500 --> 00:19:42.300 Rebeccah Goldware: So that's the same structure we 222 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:52.140 Rebeccah Goldware: Took to number balls point that structure would be the same in terms of us giving them access to the meeting, but I do know that the district more broadly to 223 00:19:53.310 --> 00:20:04.410 Rebeccah Goldware: To provide as you were pointing out access to the public and the Board of Trustees meetings that is something that we are actively looking at from the district perspective. So if, when we have a solution there we will 224 00:20:05.310 --> 00:20:19.650 Rebeccah Goldware: Borrow it and duplicate it for these meetings and but those meetings happen more regularly. So I'm I'm letting them do a little bit more of a heavy lift and we'll appropriate that process, whenever we can. But we, that is an active thing that the district is looking at as well. 225 00:20:21.120 --> 00:20:26.520 warrenavery: All right. Yeah, I mean bra. The city, the city of Riverside number. So I know they do for their city council means whatever I just 226 00:20:26.760 --> 00:20:33.300 warrenavery: I just want to put that out there and say that I'd like to formally ask. I don't know how that works. But formally asked it at the next meeting. 227 00:20:33.990 --> 00:20:49.800 warrenavery: We have a option for people to call in at the meeting time and not have to email by 12 o'clock, and I appreciate Renee, looking at the email box now but I just like for something in the future. So, okay. Any other comments from any of the other committee members at this point. 228 00:20:52.260 --> 00:20:59.970 warrenavery: Okay. See none, that we will move on to the next item on the agenda, which is where to trust the president, Miss figure. Oh. 229 00:21:01.140 --> 00:21:01.680 Mary Figueroa iPad: Thank you. 230 00:21:03.570 --> 00:21:16.500 Mary Figueroa iPad: First of all, on behalf of the Board of Trustees, let me say thank you for the fact that you're taking this time on to be a representative for the community on this particular committee. 231 00:21:17.520 --> 00:21:20.430 Mary Figueroa iPad: This committee, believe it or not, was formed. 232 00:21:22.110 --> 00:21:27.510 Mary Figueroa iPad: At a time when I was actually President of the Board of Trustees at the very onset and 233 00:21:28.800 --> 00:21:33.720 Mary Figueroa iPad: When we passed measure see at the very beginning. 234 00:21:34.980 --> 00:21:46.920 Mary Figueroa iPad: That being said, I was the one at the very start, who appointed the very first chair because at that time we had just kicked off the committee. 235 00:21:47.610 --> 00:22:01.800 Mary Figueroa iPad: We had gotten the members on board. And so it was up to the President of the Board of Trustees, in order to select the chair I selected Virginia Blumenthal and she was one of the members that had applied for the committee. 236 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:10.440 Mary Figueroa iPad: In fact, it was part of partly what led her to come on to the Board of Trustees subsequently in years to follow. 237 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.540 Mary Figueroa iPad: The reason that I had chosen Virginia was based on the fact that 238 00:22:16.860 --> 00:22:31.650 Mary Figueroa iPad: We needed to give the committee credibility, we needed to give it a reputation measure see at that time was 350 million dollars. It was the most amount of money that anything in this particular area, especially for education had seen 239 00:22:32.520 --> 00:22:42.510 Mary Figueroa iPad: And so we wanted to ensure that the committee had the trust of the community, because that's basically where you're at. 240 00:22:42.930 --> 00:22:52.680 Mary Figueroa iPad: You are the voice of the community on these fiscal matters that involve the bond money and I have to tell you that 241 00:22:53.430 --> 00:23:05.880 Mary Figueroa iPad: Historically, over the years, other districts have gotten in trouble with bond money there has been issues here and there in different districts and 242 00:23:06.540 --> 00:23:27.870 Mary Figueroa iPad: We have with our current structure with you as the bond committee oversight, have been able to not fall into that aspect we have you there in order to give us advice on. Do you see that there's a problem. Do you see 243 00:23:31.530 --> 00:23:36.720 Mary Figueroa iPad: Concerns that's, that's your role. And so the Board of Trustees takes it very 244 00:23:37.380 --> 00:23:57.450 Mary Figueroa iPad: Seriously, when we have the annual report that comes in and you come to our board meetings and you give us the annual report, and we do take a look at it and we do read it and we do depend on the fact that you're giving us that additional oversight and that additional input. 245 00:23:59.370 --> 00:24:06.990 Mary Figueroa iPad: I have to indicate to you that it is one of the ones, especially right now during the current climate that has been 246 00:24:08.250 --> 00:24:16.710 Mary Figueroa iPad: I'm going to say manifested across the nation. There's a lot of attention, a lot of attention on taxpayer money. 247 00:24:17.280 --> 00:24:25.410 Mary Figueroa iPad: And the taxpayers want to know what's happening with their money and they want to know, are they is it being handled the way it's supposed to be. 248 00:24:26.010 --> 00:24:35.820 Mary Figueroa iPad: On and that's your role, your role is to ensure that this district is doing what it's supposed to do with the money that it was entrusted with 249 00:24:36.300 --> 00:24:48.930 Mary Figueroa iPad: And then bring it to the attention of the Board of Trustees, because ultimately, the Board of Trustees, we are the ones that are elected by the community in order to do the fiscal and the financial oversight of the district. 250 00:24:49.950 --> 00:25:01.740 Mary Figueroa iPad: So, in tandem were a partnership, we're working together and you all have incredible backgrounds. You all have your own reputations in the community. 251 00:25:02.610 --> 00:25:15.720 Mary Figueroa iPad: Each one of you at some point or another, is well known. And it's that kind of trust that the community needs to see. And it's that kind of reputation that the community needs to know is there. 252 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:29.490 Mary Figueroa iPad: So I have to say that I want to thank you. I know it's time consuming. I know that it takes a lot of time and then on top of that, it also is a challenge because of the, the new format of the zoom meeting. We can't get together. 253 00:25:30.210 --> 00:25:38.040 Mary Figueroa iPad: I appreciate the comment earlier about the public input. It is definitely, as Mr. Vice Chancellor gold where indicated 254 00:25:38.340 --> 00:25:46.530 Mary Figueroa iPad: It is definitely something that the Board of Trustees is even still trying to work through to ensure that the public does have 255 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:52.590 Mary Figueroa iPad: That access to their representatives and so that they can end up bringing 256 00:25:53.100 --> 00:26:01.560 Mary Figueroa iPad: Questions and comments. And so we are still looking at it and of course whenever you're looking at something, there's always going to be a security issue because 257 00:26:01.800 --> 00:26:13.800 Mary Figueroa iPad: There's got to be somebody out there that decides that they're going to end up messing it up for everybody else because they want to do something that's, you know, unethical. But we are continuing that that that 258 00:26:14.850 --> 00:26:25.800 Mary Figueroa iPad: Structure and we will definitely get back with you, Vice Chancellor Cold War is there at our board meetings all the time. So once we make a change. And we said, we tried a couple of 259 00:26:26.340 --> 00:26:36.030 Mary Figueroa iPad: Sessions bad, but it didn't quite work out. So we'll try another one. And hopefully, then it will be something that you can also copy into likewise. 260 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:40.950 Mary Figueroa iPad: But again, I don't want to take up all your time. I know you've got a full agenda. I was looking at it. 261 00:26:41.490 --> 00:26:49.710 Mary Figueroa iPad: But I did want to come in and I did want to take this time to kick off your new your new committee that you have with your new members. 262 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:59.190 Mary Figueroa iPad: That have just come on, I want to wish you a lot of luck and please let us know if there's anything that you need the staff. I know is incredibly 263 00:26:59.790 --> 00:27:11.670 Mary Figueroa iPad: Available to you for whatever it is that you might need information wise or or whatever. And we're always here also. So if you need to call and talk to one of us, by all means. 264 00:27:12.150 --> 00:27:22.110 Mary Figueroa iPad: Just let us know what it is that we can do to help you. So again, on behalf of the Board. I want to thank you for the time that you're taking in order to do this, and we appreciate all the time that 265 00:27:22.830 --> 00:27:32.370 Mary Figueroa iPad: That you're doing for the community and for the district. So thank you very much and have a really good meeting, I see that it's a long one. So good luck. 266 00:27:34.800 --> 00:27:38.100 warrenavery: All right. Thank you very much, Mr grow. Thank you for your comments. 267 00:27:39.600 --> 00:27:48.180 warrenavery: Okay. Um, we will move on. I understand might be some people that have asked to join as a public comment. 268 00:27:50.220 --> 00:28:00.660 warrenavery: I'm okay with that. If someone if if you want to give access to that link that's allowed, then I'm okay with it for a public comment point of view. 269 00:28:01.830 --> 00:28:16.590 warrenavery: So you can pass along that link. Let me know when they're on and I can come back to it. Just to let everybody know what's going on, that was brought up. So we'll wait for that person to come on the zoom. Then we'll go back to them for a public comment, but in the interest of time. 270 00:28:17.610 --> 00:28:26.700 warrenavery: I am going to move on to the next section on the agenda, which is the bylaws. And I know we had a lots of great discussion, the last meeting. 271 00:28:27.330 --> 00:28:35.430 warrenavery: So we will move on to it looks like there's a staff presentation so machines are gold. Where is that you or someone else from the staff, who's doing that presentation. 272 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:45.990 Rebeccah Goldware: I'm going to go ahead and open this and so thank you for every I'm. Do you want me to keep going, well, Renee is providing access 273 00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:47.430 warrenavery: Or I don't know how long it's 274 00:28:47.820 --> 00:28:58.890 warrenavery: Gonna take, I just don't want to be sitting around here. Right. I want to be respectful of every time you keep things moving in it you know expedient manner. So if it's going to happen right away, great, but I just don't want to. 275 00:28:59.040 --> 00:29:00.840 warrenavery: Say you're all twiddling our thumbs when 276 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:01.680 Rebeccah Goldware: We just be sure 277 00:29:02.250 --> 00:29:05.040 Rebeccah Goldware: Okay, sure. So thank you. I'll just ignore them. 278 00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:06.870 Rebeccah Goldware: And it's been discussed 279 00:29:07.110 --> 00:29:11.250 Rebeccah Goldware: With this group to have a better understanding of our bylaws, and the operation of the CBC 280 00:29:12.120 --> 00:29:17.640 Rebeccah Goldware: My appreciation of Trustee for growth for her comments to help set up the stage and my thanks to David Casanova 281 00:29:18.270 --> 00:29:21.840 Rebeccah Goldware: RCC von Council who I will turn the presentation over to shortly. 282 00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:32.700 Rebeccah Goldware: During one on one conversations that I had with each of you as you join the are CCD citizens bond oversight committee I shared with you, historical documents were information could be found. 283 00:29:33.060 --> 00:29:43.200 Rebeccah Goldware: And addressed any questions or concerns that you may have had I continue to be a resource for you, along with the team that is here and as you continue to do this important work. 284 00:29:43.590 --> 00:29:51.060 Rebeccah Goldware: There are a few specific areas that I'd like to highlight and we're staff can be of assistance to each of you as you fulfill your roles. 285 00:29:51.450 --> 00:29:59.070 Rebeccah Goldware: As you know, this committee is established by the RCC the Board of Trustees as trust you figure out pointed out, including the appointments of its members like you all 286 00:29:59.610 --> 00:30:08.460 Rebeccah Goldware: You each one of the required seats to ensure representation across the community with the primary role to review expenditures for measure C and report that information out. 287 00:30:09.210 --> 00:30:19.470 Rebeccah Goldware: One of the ways to ensure transparency is to follow Brown Act, which this committee is bound to in essence that staff helps to ensure transparency by making meetings publicly available. 288 00:30:19.890 --> 00:30:23.250 Rebeccah Goldware: If you'd like to learn more about Rannoch we can provide you resource information. 289 00:30:23.760 --> 00:30:35.010 Rebeccah Goldware: Staff is here to assist so pleasing the truth. That's when you have questions, a CBC at RCC d.edu email was established to ensure timely review and response of any inquiry. That's received 290 00:30:35.910 --> 00:30:46.680 Rebeccah Goldware: At this time I'd like to ask David customer was struggling yoga Carlson and rough as the RCC de bond council to share more depth and clarity on the roles and responsibilities for the CBC, David. 291 00:30:48.990 --> 00:30:49.500 David Casnocha: Thank you. 292 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.700 David Casnocha: Have attended the last couple of your meetings, although 293 00:30:55.260 --> 00:31:06.630 David Casnocha: Didn't have the need to speak, but I'm here today to give you from the district's point of view and from the larger legal perspective what the role of a bond oversight committee is 294 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:25.560 David Casnocha: So I'm going to start with a 32nd history of Community College finance, which is as follows. Once upon a time, many years ago community college districts could pass local school bonds for facilities that power was lost in 1978 because of Proposition 13 295 00:31:27.030 --> 00:31:41.040 David Casnocha: From 1978 to 1986 there were no school bonds for community colleges RCC and other colleges did non-voter approve borrowings that were payable from the general fund. 296 00:31:41.790 --> 00:31:58.410 David Casnocha: And they use those borrowings for capital facility improvements in 1986 the constitution was amended, allowing for geo bonds to be passed with two thirds vote or approval on the condition that the bond proceeds be used for the acquisition and improvement of real property. 297 00:31:59.910 --> 00:32:11.430 David Casnocha: That 19 86th amendment to the Constitution required two thirds vote or approval and some community college districts past bonds between 1986 and 2000 at that level. 298 00:32:12.090 --> 00:32:23.070 David Casnocha: But during those years there was an intense debate among the school community as to whether or not that was the fair and appropriate threshold to pass a local general obligation bond. 299 00:32:24.180 --> 00:32:35.820 David Casnocha: And that debate culminated in 2000 with another amendment to the California Constitution, providing alternative authority for a community college district to pass a local bond. It was called prop 39 300 00:32:37.230 --> 00:32:45.600 David Casnocha: And in order to pass a prop 39 bond, a district needed two thirds vote or approval of its Governing Board to place the measure on the ballot. 301 00:32:46.680 --> 00:33:05.370 David Casnocha: Get 55% of the voter approval approval and then follow the legislation that was called the prop 39 enabling legislation which legislation was enacted into the government code condition on the passage of Proposition 39 302 00:33:06.420 --> 00:33:16.350 David Casnocha: And so the Constitution and the enabling legislation passed by the state legislature established as the requirements for a prop 39 bond. 303 00:33:16.950 --> 00:33:25.710 David Casnocha: That community college districts couldn't issue bonds. If the estimated tax rate was going to be more than $25 per 100,000 304 00:33:26.280 --> 00:33:36.630 David Casnocha: That it would agree to provide annual financial and performance audits that it would provide the voters, a project list concurrently with the election. 305 00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:48.270 David Casnocha: And that it would establish populate and empower your citizen bond oversight committee and grant to that committee. The powers that the state legislature defined in the education code. 306 00:33:49.050 --> 00:34:03.900 David Casnocha: And the importance of that history is that the statutory framework for a bond oversight committee comes from the state legislature, because the topic of overseeing school bonds is a matter of statewide concern. 307 00:34:04.470 --> 00:34:12.120 David Casnocha: It's not a matter of local concern and as a consequence of that boards of trustees, a community college districts 308 00:34:12.540 --> 00:34:18.780 David Casnocha: Enact bylaws that track the provisions of the education code and no Community College District 309 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:27.960 David Casnocha: Customize is the bylaws to expand or contract the powers, because the powers have been set in the education code. 310 00:34:28.680 --> 00:34:36.570 David Casnocha: And that's the framework in which the meaning of the bylaws, and the functions of the committee, need to be interpreted around 311 00:34:37.290 --> 00:34:55.110 David Casnocha: And so the interpretation starts with the name of your committee, which is an independent citizens bond Oversight Committee, and I know you've been debating two of those words in recent times, the word independent and the word oversight. What are those words mean. 312 00:34:56.580 --> 00:35:06.450 David Casnocha: So the word oversight means not advisory, you are not in advisory committee to the Board of Trustees. 313 00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:16.680 David Casnocha: And you like not being it advisory committee because advisory committees need to file a Form 700 conflict of interest statement WITH THE FAIR POLITICAL PRACTICES COMMISSION each year. 314 00:35:17.520 --> 00:35:27.240 David Casnocha: oversight committees are not subject to that requirement because you're not providing advice to elected officials. So you perform an oversight function. 315 00:35:29.040 --> 00:35:38.100 David Casnocha: The second word independent. What does it mean to be an independent committee, which has been a topic that you all have kicked around in the last month or two. 316 00:35:40.020 --> 00:35:52.620 David Casnocha: I think it means two things. Number one, because the committee is a creature of state statute, it was formed by the board of trustees. 317 00:35:53.130 --> 00:36:01.710 David Casnocha: The Board of Trustees approved its bylaws, which are your bylaws and appoints the members to the committee. 318 00:36:02.370 --> 00:36:14.580 David Casnocha: The first element of being independent means you have to be able to perform your function without interference by the legislative body that you are a committee of so the Board of Trustees. 319 00:36:15.210 --> 00:36:21.990 David Casnocha: So independent in one sense means perform your functions without interference by the board of trustees. 320 00:36:23.370 --> 00:36:33.990 David Casnocha: The second meeting of independent comes from a provision of the ED code that says there can be no conflicts of interest associated with members of the Oversight Committee. 321 00:36:34.530 --> 00:36:45.780 David Casnocha: And therefore, you can't be a district employee, you can't be a district vendor. You can't be on the governing board of the Board of Trustees, you can't have a conflict of interest. 322 00:36:46.440 --> 00:37:05.220 David Casnocha: So that's what it means to be independent, free of interference by the Board of Trustees and no conflicts of interest by the members of the committee that would thwart your ability to objectively and independently review the expenditure of bond funds and so 323 00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:23.400 David Casnocha: Independent has never met and will never mean free, free from the constraints of the statewide statutory chat charges for a bond oversight committee. 324 00:37:24.030 --> 00:37:39.210 David Casnocha: And I think that you will no oversight committee is able to forge its own path and decide for itself what its objectives and goals are the functions of the committee have to be within the statutory framework. 325 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:58.830 David Casnocha: So having said that, I'm going to summarize for you a few sections of the bylaws, which I think you've been probably most worried about, I don't know whether or not you have copies of the bylaws handy. I think Rebecca was going to send them out to you. 326 00:37:59.130 --> 00:38:00.750 warrenavery: They were included in our agenda packet 327 00:38:01.110 --> 00:38:01.470 Okay. 328 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:11.700 David Casnocha: So I guess my first time it is in section one, the committee does not have independent legal capacity from the district that's just a reminder 329 00:38:12.270 --> 00:38:25.260 David Casnocha: That you are a committee formed by the board of trustees. You're not an independent entity independent from the district section to your subject of the Brown Act. You guys have heard that already today. 330 00:38:26.490 --> 00:38:34.800 David Casnocha: Section. Number three is the core element of what your responsibilities are the most important what is found in section three point to 331 00:38:35.580 --> 00:38:52.170 David Casnocha: The committee shall review expenditure reports produced by the district to ensure that bond proceeds were expanded only for the purposes set forth in measure see. So how do you know whether or not expenses were produced 332 00:38:53.190 --> 00:39:02.430 David Casnocha: By the district. How do you know that bond proceeds were expended only for the purposes of measure. See, that's why. Rebecca attached to your agenda item. 333 00:39:03.060 --> 00:39:11.400 David Casnocha: The ballot language for measure C, and that includes both a 75 words statement, which is the shorter version of measure see 334 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:28.890 David Casnocha: The operative words are repair acquire construct equip building sites classrooms, such as your threshold question is, is this expenditure for the repair acquisition construction equipping of buildings sites and classrooms, yes or no. 335 00:39:30.150 --> 00:39:38.010 David Casnocha: The second and longer version of measure C is the bond project list that appeared in the sample ballot for all voters. 336 00:39:38.430 --> 00:39:47.670 David Casnocha: You can read that at your leisure. It has a lot of different examples of the types of projects, the thing that is most important about the bond project list. 337 00:39:48.240 --> 00:40:00.060 David Casnocha: Is that topics been litigated, a number of times in various ports, the California appellate court is the landmark case involving fidelity danza Community College. 338 00:40:00.630 --> 00:40:17.070 David Casnocha: They were challenged by a taxpayer their bond was a prop 39 bond, but it did not get two thirds support it got more than 55%. The challenge was that the bond project list was very broad and that and the taxpayer argued 339 00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:34.680 David Casnocha: Essentially any project on Earth could be authorized by their bond and therefore, it failed the project specificity test of prop 39 the Court rejected that view and said in deciding the lawful expenditure of bond proceeds. 340 00:40:35.730 --> 00:40:44.640 David Casnocha: The project list prepared principally for the benefit of the Oversight Committee and the independent auditors and not as a promise to voters. 341 00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:54.420 David Casnocha: Authorizes the types of projects that are described in the list. So when you look at an expenditure report. You don't have to find a word. 342 00:40:55.110 --> 00:41:01.350 David Casnocha: In the expenditure report that matches a word in the bond project list as presented to the voters. 343 00:41:01.860 --> 00:41:12.300 David Casnocha: So long as the expenditure report describes a project which is the type of project that was described in the bond project list at the voters that approved. 344 00:41:13.080 --> 00:41:24.000 David Casnocha: So that's the interpretive rule that the California appellate courts have applied to the interpretation to the bond project list and the rationale was 345 00:41:24.660 --> 00:41:36.660 David Casnocha: That like riverside when you pass a bond in 2004 and you're still accessing bond phones, what may have been in the courts might a roof repair job in 2004 346 00:41:37.200 --> 00:41:45.570 David Casnocha: Is now a tear down in 2020 when the college is finally able to access bond funds for a particular project and the court argued 347 00:41:46.020 --> 00:41:59.550 David Casnocha: In rule that districts need flexibility and adapting to the changing circumstances that occurred during the history of a bond program, particularly for a larger one like Riverside's was in 2004 348 00:42:00.030 --> 00:42:12.750 David Casnocha: So that's why they adopted this type of project test to ensure more flexibility to a district in the expenditure of bond funds. So that's one half of 3.2 349 00:42:13.590 --> 00:42:24.540 David Casnocha: The other half is you have to satisfy yourself that no bond proceeds were used for inappropriate teacher or administrator salaries or other operating expenses. 350 00:42:25.230 --> 00:42:41.910 David Casnocha: So that's an express provision and prop 39 no teacher or administrator salaries or other operating expenses. So in in 2000 when this when this became the law, I said, that means no staff salaries can be paid out of a prop 39 bucks. 351 00:42:43.200 --> 00:42:48.510 David Casnocha: And that all services with respect to a bond have to be outsourced to a third party. 352 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:59.400 David Casnocha: Districts didn't like that advice because third party vendors are more expensive performing certain functions then district employees being paid a public wage. 353 00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:15.420 David Casnocha: For years after prop 39 was passed the attorney general rules as to the meaning of admitted no teacher or administrator salaries or other operating expenses and held that 354 00:43:16.290 --> 00:43:30.060 David Casnocha: If a district employee meets the but for test, but for measure. See that employee would not be performing his or her job with respect to the bond program, whether it's a secretarial job and accounting job. 355 00:43:30.630 --> 00:43:37.860 David Casnocha: A project oversight job, regardless of what it was. If you met the but for test, you are not an administrator 356 00:43:38.370 --> 00:43:50.010 David Casnocha: And that's provided the legal authority for districts to elect to use district employees to provide certain functions so that if a member of the Oversight Committee season expenditure report. 357 00:43:50.490 --> 00:43:59.400 David Casnocha: With staff salaries, the duty that you have is to ask the question that relate to having you meet the but for tests. So, for example, 358 00:44:01.050 --> 00:44:12.150 David Casnocha: If 100% of Rebecca salary shows up on an expenditure report you would ask, what are your responsibilities at the district, other than assisting the bond oversight committee and if there's 359 00:44:12.810 --> 00:44:22.650 David Casnocha: A list of job responsibilities that she has, then you'll know on the face of it that 100% of her salary couldn't be paid for by bonds. 360 00:44:23.220 --> 00:44:36.270 David Casnocha: So the district has an obligation to account in some reasonable way to satisfy you that bond proceeds are not being used to pay administrator salaries that fail, but for test. 361 00:44:39.990 --> 00:44:49.050 David Casnocha: The second principle responsibility of the Oversight Committee is to inform the public regarding your activities and what your conclusions are 362 00:44:50.370 --> 00:45:00.930 David Casnocha: The Education Code if you refer to section 3.1 of the bylaws is only the first sentence, you shall inform the public regarding the expenditure of bond proceeds. 363 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:12.150 David Casnocha: I've written in myself. The next two sentences in fulfilling this duty all communications to the board or public shall come from the chair acting on behalf of the committee. 364 00:45:12.720 --> 00:45:17.160 David Casnocha: And the chair show release information that reflects the majority view of the Committee. 365 00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:25.830 David Casnocha: I did that because we had some community college oversight committee members who would show up at a city council meeting self identify as an oversight committee member 366 00:45:26.310 --> 00:45:36.960 David Casnocha: And then the want to rent and no one in the public would know whether or not that was the view of the oversight committee or an individual expressing his personal opinions. 367 00:45:37.680 --> 00:45:50.130 David Casnocha: And so the goal of informing the public is one that that advances both the good news and the bad news at the oversight committee, the law doesn't distinguish between information. 368 00:45:50.700 --> 00:46:00.240 David Casnocha: That's critical of the district or laudatory of the district. If you feel on the merits that information either category is important to share 369 00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:03.960 David Casnocha: I think that 370 00:46:06.120 --> 00:46:18.660 David Casnocha: The law nor the bylaws tells you how best to inform the public, you have an obligation through the district to maintain a website that's one way to inform the public 371 00:46:19.890 --> 00:46:28.380 David Casnocha: You have an obligation to prepare a written annual report, which is both posted on the website and available to the community. That's another way to inform 372 00:46:29.160 --> 00:46:42.120 David Casnocha: But I think oversight committees have the freedom to facilitate informing the public, any way that they think is best, whether it's letters to the editor of the newspaper, whether it's requesting that the district. 373 00:46:43.890 --> 00:46:54.270 David Casnocha: Include a letter from the oversight committee in a district released publication that's distributed throughout the Community. 374 00:46:55.470 --> 00:47:16.440 David Casnocha: The district has an obligation to fund reasonable amounts of money associated with informing the public. So that's a topic to be debated by the committee as to how best to inform riverside of your activities and conclusions, the annual report, which is your third principle function. 375 00:47:18.630 --> 00:47:30.600 David Casnocha: The committee has been preparing those obviously since 2005 so there's a long history of form. But if you're a relatively new committee and want to take a fresh look at the annual report. 376 00:47:32.010 --> 00:47:43.290 David Casnocha: I think that's not a bad idea, and most colleges as staff at the district to provide them with samples of and reports from other colleges so that you can see what other people are doing. 377 00:47:43.740 --> 00:47:51.330 David Casnocha: Adopt a format that's suitable for your own and either drafted yourself or in most cases district staff. 378 00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:58.380 David Casnocha: Drafts an annual report and the oversight committee edits it changes it reforms it and votes to approve it. 379 00:47:59.310 --> 00:48:13.680 David Casnocha: The key thing about an annual report is that the punch line has to be that the committee concludes that the bond proceeds that were spent during the preceding accounting period were for 380 00:48:15.450 --> 00:48:32.190 David Casnocha: financing the construction acquisition repair furnishing and equipping of school facilities and not for teacher or administrator salaries, it has to include that conclusion and most oversight committees rely upon the results of the independent audit. 381 00:48:33.270 --> 00:48:40.620 David Casnocha: to shore up their own reviews of expenditure reports that have been provided during the year. 382 00:48:41.940 --> 00:48:43.560 David Casnocha: I'm going to go quickly because 383 00:48:45.120 --> 00:49:02.340 David Casnocha: I want to be able to answer questions if you have any in Section 3.4 you'll just note as you read through these yourself. There's a lot of topics like a window a bond program that are not within the purview of the Oversight Committee, the approval of construction contracts change orders. 384 00:49:03.630 --> 00:49:08.970 David Casnocha: project identification selling of bonds. But my attitude is 385 00:49:10.620 --> 00:49:16.470 David Casnocha: You ought to be hearing about those topics, because you have a due diligence responsibility. 386 00:49:17.040 --> 00:49:25.170 David Casnocha: To inquire as to, for example, on construction contracts. When you hear about a project was where the contracts competitively bid. 387 00:49:25.770 --> 00:49:37.980 David Casnocha: What was the difference between the high bid and the low bid. Why was the bid that you accepted the bid that you accepted. Have you had any experience with this contractor before I think any types of 388 00:49:37.980 --> 00:49:40.860 David Casnocha: Questions along those lines for 389 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:48.090 David Casnocha: Your own diligence perspective is appropriate, but if you don't like the answers. 390 00:49:49.350 --> 00:49:55.140 David Casnocha: There's really no steps that you can take as a follow up to having the district. 391 00:49:56.160 --> 00:49:59.790 David Casnocha: pursued the approval of construction contracts. 392 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:07.800 David Casnocha: Any way that they see fit and consistent with the public contracting laws change orders is another example. 393 00:50:09.630 --> 00:50:18.270 David Casnocha: While you can't approve a change order and it's not reasonable to ask for copies of change orders. If I run the committee, I would ask the question. 394 00:50:18.750 --> 00:50:24.510 David Casnocha: What has been your experience with change orders. Has it been high as it been low if it's high 395 00:50:25.110 --> 00:50:36.630 David Casnocha: You know, what are you doing about it. What's the cause, because within prop 39 there's an anti waste element and part of the role of an oversight committee is to make sure that they've identified 396 00:50:37.140 --> 00:50:46.890 David Casnocha: areas in which taxpayer funds are being wasted and so diligence questions on change orders, I think, are reasonable to ask 397 00:50:48.780 --> 00:50:50.160 David Casnocha: And get informed about 398 00:50:53.880 --> 00:51:00.300 David Casnocha: section for describes other authorized activities that the committee could undertake. 399 00:51:01.860 --> 00:51:12.690 David Casnocha: The one that I think you'd find most interesting is Roman numeral for review efforts by the district to maximize bond proceeds by implementing various cost saving measures. 400 00:51:13.770 --> 00:51:14.370 David Casnocha: So, 401 00:51:16.050 --> 00:51:25.320 David Casnocha: That's your opportunity to ask the staff questions about, as I said earlier, competitive bidding of contracts reusing 402 00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:40.920 David Casnocha: construction plans from other projects to save design costs join use agreements with other public agencies applying for state matching funds to reduce the share of local bond proceeds used for projects. 403 00:51:42.450 --> 00:51:45.210 David Casnocha: Bidding out professional service contracts. 404 00:51:47.040 --> 00:51:52.770 David Casnocha: I think that those sorts of questions are fair game for the district to respond to 405 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:09.780 David Casnocha: For the new members of the committee, the district has a an affirmative legal obligation to allow for committee members to inspect facilities or grounds where bond proceeds have been or will be spent. 406 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:25.650 David Casnocha: And if you ask the district has a duty to make an arrangement to provide the committee with a tour campus tour that reveals where major seed money is have been or will be spent. 407 00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:38.340 David Casnocha: You're off also authorized to review scheduled maintenance proposals are plans, developed by the district. It's never been clear to me why the legislature, put that in, but 408 00:52:39.420 --> 00:52:46.440 David Casnocha: Once upon a time, a number of years ago, the state used to fund deferred maintenance or scheduled maintenance of buildings, they don't do that anymore. 409 00:52:47.040 --> 00:52:58.620 David Casnocha: But I think if I run a committee, I'd want to know that the district has thought about maintenance plans for for facilities that were funded with bond proceeds so that the Community. 410 00:52:59.100 --> 00:53:18.120 David Casnocha: Doesn't face having to pay for a bond to build a building and then five years later, pay for another bond to maintain it and repair it. So I would probably ask questions about where the district gets it scheduled maintenance monies from and how our bond funded facilities. 411 00:53:19.290 --> 00:53:22.410 David Casnocha: being maintained to extend their useful life. 412 00:53:24.660 --> 00:53:39.780 David Casnocha: I want to make a quick comment about the membership on the committee because a number of you received a letter the other day, I imagine that from a sterling who asserted that today's meeting was in violation of State law. 413 00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:52.620 David Casnocha: I disagree with that conclusion. I think the assertion was based on the belief that the committee does not have a bonafide a taxpayer organization member 414 00:53:53.820 --> 00:54:03.600 David Casnocha: Is you'll see in Section 5.1 of the bylaws, the state legislature defined the mix, without giving 415 00:54:04.170 --> 00:54:14.460 David Casnocha: Any more or less importance to any one of these seven members of the committee, a student enrolled and active in a community college support group. 416 00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:30.930 David Casnocha: One member active in a business organization one member active in a senior citizen organization one member active and a bonafide a taxpayer Association one member active in a support organizations such as a foundation and to add large muscles. 417 00:54:31.980 --> 00:54:38.460 David Casnocha: So, to the best of my knowledge, the district has a committee that satisfies 418 00:54:38.550 --> 00:54:40.260 David Casnocha: Each of those criteria. 419 00:54:40.770 --> 00:54:59.760 David Casnocha: And so long as there is a quorum president and notice in the meeting was properly, given this meeting is a lawful meeting. And to the degree that you disagree as to whether or not there is a bonafide a taxpayer Association representative on the committee. It's been my understanding that 420 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:12.000 David Casnocha: The determination as to what a bonafide a taxpayer association is is within the jurisdiction of the Board of Trustees and when they appoint a member 421 00:55:12.930 --> 00:55:23.220 David Casnocha: Who has applied with that moniker in the application, they've made a determination that whatever the association was that was identified on the application. 422 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:34.860 David Casnocha: met their view of what a bona fide attacks Paris association is. And so the letter the email that you may have received challenging the 423 00:55:36.240 --> 00:55:39.180 David Casnocha: Legal integrity of the meeting, I think, is without 424 00:55:44.550 --> 00:55:47.010 David Casnocha: sort of bring in a closed the thing 425 00:55:48.870 --> 00:55:59.190 David Casnocha: We talked about 5.3 you're not subject to form 705.4 you can serve three consecutive terms. 426 00:56:01.020 --> 00:56:04.680 David Casnocha: There's a an application process that has to be followed. 427 00:56:05.850 --> 00:56:24.060 David Casnocha: 5.6 allows the board to remove a committee member for any reason, including failure to attend two consecutive meetings without reasonable excuse to my knowledge, I've never heard of a Community College District removing a member of a bond oversight committee, I know riverside has not 428 00:56:28.710 --> 00:56:45.810 David Casnocha: Section seven, the district is obligated to maintain a website for you, but you have the power to determine what's on that website so that website is going to be a vehicle for you to inform the public, then I think that 429 00:56:46.890 --> 00:56:55.470 David Casnocha: You should have a look at that website and decide for yourself what more might be edit to that website to better inform the community of your activities. 430 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:03.840 David Casnocha: And then maybe lastly I'll just say and responding to the email that was sent around to you. 431 00:57:05.160 --> 00:57:06.780 David Casnocha: There was an assertion that 432 00:57:08.490 --> 00:57:34.680 David Casnocha: Riverside Community College is at risk for a court issuing a restraining order preventing the expenditure of bond funds for failing to properly maintain a committee in accordance with section 15 282. I think that's without merit, just so you can be assured that statute says that 433 00:57:37.080 --> 00:57:54.840 David Casnocha: An injunction can be sought if a district willfully failed to appoint the citizens oversight committee in violation of the requirements of the education code. So you have a committee, it's in good standing. I think that the email that you received 434 00:57:55.890 --> 00:58:02.250 David Casnocha: assumes that there is not a taxpayer representative on the Oversight Committee. 435 00:58:03.390 --> 00:58:11.670 David Casnocha: And just conceding for the moment that that would be true for the sake of argument, but I think factually. It's not true. But if it were to be true. 436 00:58:12.330 --> 00:58:22.710 David Casnocha: Would that result in a risk to the district of being vulnerable to an injunction being granted to prevent the future expenditure of bond funds and the answer is no. 437 00:58:23.250 --> 00:58:35.160 David Casnocha: Because vacancies appear on oversight committees, all the time. And there's nothing special about a taxpayer rep versus a student rep versus a foundation rep versus a business rep. 438 00:58:35.910 --> 00:58:46.200 David Casnocha: And so the duty that a college has in the event that they can see where do exist, is to continue to look for applicants to serve and feel that they can see 439 00:58:46.950 --> 00:58:54.450 David Casnocha: If they fail to in good faith fill a vacancy, then I think they're vulnerable under the sentence that I just read 440 00:58:55.200 --> 00:59:07.110 David Casnocha: But so long as they seek to fill vacancies. If they can cease to exist, then there's no way that a court with enjoying the expenditure upon proceeds, for the reasons that were stated in the email. 441 00:59:08.850 --> 00:59:13.380 David Casnocha: And with that, I'll just close and be happy to answer questions. 442 00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:15.540 David Casnocha: If you're already 443 00:59:23.490 --> 00:59:34.020 warrenavery: Sorry, Mr Casanova, I just wanted to say thank you for your time putting that together. Nicole where thank you as well for your comments. At the beginning, appreciate both of you taking the time to do that. 444 00:59:35.250 --> 00:59:43.620 warrenavery: I know I have a couple questions. I know we do have one speaker who joined he I mentioned that I would go back to them. 445 00:59:44.220 --> 00:59:52.530 warrenavery: So, committee members. I'm going to go to the public comment that is in, and then I will go around the go around the horn and see if anybody has any questions for 446 00:59:53.010 --> 01:00:09.420 warrenavery: Staff to what we just heard. So with that in mind, I believe the public speaker is Mr. Hunter, Mr Hunter. I will give you three minutes and I got my handy dandy stopwatch right here. So once you start speaking. I'll go ahead and start the start the time 447 01:00:11.730 --> 01:00:17.880 Jason Hunter: Yeah, it's a lot of familiar faces I see out there, Jason. I just wanted to inform the Committee that the 448 01:00:20.550 --> 01:00:37.530 Jason Hunter: The instructions on the agenda for public comment was that there was just email only for this meeting and it had to be provided three hours ahead of time. And I'm just, I'm curious as to when the chair or the committee made that change or did the district itself. 449 01:00:38.100 --> 01:00:40.230 Dwight: Without authority and unilaterally just 450 01:00:40.230 --> 01:00:50.700 Jason Hunter: Change how public comment is given to this committee. I think that's problematic because it's been proven in the past and I was the chair. I think I can make this determination that 451 01:00:51.270 --> 01:00:58.950 Jason Hunter: You know, public comment the past was not really disruptive. It was handled it maybe not perfectly, but in a way that allowed the public to 452 01:00:59.340 --> 01:01:04.440 Jason Hunter: Give direct and live public comment to this committee, I think you need to hear that. I think that's very important. 453 01:01:05.220 --> 01:01:16.050 Jason Hunter: For the integrity of this committee and the trust of the community that its bond monies its tax money is being watched over. So I'd like to know how that change. 454 01:01:16.620 --> 01:01:26.460 Jason Hunter: Was made. And then secondly, I'd like to address a couple other concerns. I HAD JUST KIND OF WATCHING THIS MEETING TODAY. The public was locked out of this meeting for the first five minutes. 455 01:01:26.940 --> 01:01:31.440 Jason Hunter: So we have no idea what happened the first five minutes of this meeting if any votes were taken. 456 01:01:32.670 --> 01:01:36.720 Jason Hunter: And so I think I caught the very tail end of when Mr. 457 01:01:37.950 --> 01:01:42.360 Jason Hunter: Avery was elected the chair. And then thirdly, 458 01:01:45.330 --> 01:01:47.040 Jason Hunter: Sorry, I just need to collect my thoughts here. 459 01:01:49.170 --> 01:01:51.990 Jason Hunter: Oh, I believe this is gold where said that 460 01:01:53.460 --> 01:01:59.520 Jason Hunter: There was something there was ability for the public to join in the meeting and give live comment. But that's not on the agenda. 461 01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:05.790 Jason Hunter: And if it's not on the agenda, it doesn't exist because that that's the only thing the public would actually have access to, to know 462 01:02:06.120 --> 01:02:15.780 Jason Hunter: How to join the meeting. I happen to be watching the meeting. I heard her say it. And then I made an email request. But no, but most people from the public are not going to do that. So there really was no way 463 01:02:16.290 --> 01:02:22.620 Jason Hunter: For the public to give live comment at this meeting today and I find that kind of troubling because we've kind of regressed 464 01:02:23.040 --> 01:02:28.590 Jason Hunter: As to how we receive public comment. When I was the chair versus the first meeting there afterwards, all of a sudden 465 01:02:29.220 --> 01:02:39.600 Jason Hunter: It seems very restrictive and quite frankly, I almost kind of wonder if it doesn't violate the Brown Act because the public is supposed to be able to directly address the legislature. 466 01:02:40.020 --> 01:02:53.730 Jason Hunter: Of these meetings. So that's my public comment. I guess I'll all hang around maybe speak a little bit more. When it's time for my three minutes on the rules, unless the chair would like me to speak out because I think the rules just finished. But that was my public comment. 467 01:02:55.080 --> 01:02:58.890 warrenavery: Gotcha. Well, that was two minutes and 40 seconds. So I will go ahead and then 468 01:02:59.910 --> 01:03:13.710 warrenavery: I will go ahead and let's you go ahead and make your public comment on the staff presentation. And then, then we'll move on to the committee member questions. So, Mr Hunter. I'm restarting your time. Go ahead. Okay. 469 01:03:13.950 --> 01:03:20.190 Jason Hunter: So as far as the rules go you know this was a big point of contention, I believe that the last meeting that I shared once again. 470 01:03:20.700 --> 01:03:27.270 Jason Hunter: There was a motion made to have an ad hoc committee meets. I don't know whether or not that happened, but that was a 471 01:03:27.660 --> 01:03:35.340 Jason Hunter: Motion. That was voted upon by this committee to meet and then come back to present at this October meeting the motion was very specific 472 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:45.750 Jason Hunter: And now I'm wondering what happened to that effort. Why are we in violation of our own motion. Instead, what I see is the presentation be given 473 01:03:46.680 --> 01:03:59.970 Jason Hunter: By the district's legal counsel. Once again, this is not the committee's legal counsel, so it's not your interpretation of how the statute works. It's the district's the person of the agency. 474 01:04:00.690 --> 01:04:17.280 Jason Hunter: The body that you're supposed to be over scenes version of how to do oversight and how it works. I find that to be quite frankly a little bit preposterous and date and Mr Casanova cannot cannot legally provide you legal advice he knows that because you're not his client. 475 01:04:18.540 --> 01:04:23.730 Jason Hunter: Is client is the district and there's an obvious bias and there's going to be an obvious conflict of interest there. 476 01:04:24.240 --> 01:04:34.050 Jason Hunter: And so I encourage everybody on the committee to think independently to think about some of the subjects that I tried to introduce during, during my brief, brief stay as the chair. 477 01:04:35.220 --> 01:04:46.560 Jason Hunter: As to what the perception is in the community as to the ability of this committee to operate independently as required under State law given some of the kind of 478 01:04:48.090 --> 01:04:53.070 Jason Hunter: ludicrous. If I say because it really is kind of ludicrous rules that I see in the bylaws as far as 479 01:04:53.340 --> 01:05:01.320 Jason Hunter: Being able to dismiss people for any time in any reason it doesn't matter whether it's ever happened. The past that's irrelevant to the fact that it isn't a rule and the public sees that 480 01:05:01.620 --> 01:05:06.240 Jason Hunter: And they see that as as this committee can't be operating independently under those kinds of rules. 481 01:05:06.630 --> 01:05:14.850 Jason Hunter: I would say. Further, the fact that staff seems to be very heavy handed who chooses to be on its committee with from the appointment process or reopen process. 482 01:05:15.120 --> 01:05:22.200 Jason Hunter: In the case of myself, my reappointment was never brought for it to the board. I find that problematic. The staff is picking the quality of its oversight. 483 01:05:22.590 --> 01:05:33.030 Jason Hunter: Communities not can understand that these issues are very serious and they need to be addressed, and I hope that this community takes that seriously and works on that going forward. Thank you. 484 01:05:34.590 --> 01:05:44.880 warrenavery: All right. Thank you, Mr. Hunter, appreciate your comments. Alright, so we will move on to questions, I will ask the any of the committee members. If you have questions for Mr Casanova 485 01:05:45.210 --> 01:05:53.160 warrenavery: Miss gold. Where are the other staff members. I have a couple questions myself but I'll open it up to the to the rest of the members. First, anyone have a question. 486 01:05:57.720 --> 01:06:02.400 warrenavery: All right, I don't see any questions, I'm just gonna ask a couple questions. Oh, it's rock on I see you. Go ahead. 487 01:06:04.530 --> 01:06:08.760 Philip Falcone: I don't like to always be the first one I like to sometimes. Wait, but it seems like people don't want to speak up. 488 01:06:09.900 --> 01:06:10.740 warrenavery: Gotta be first. 489 01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:28.140 Philip Falcone: I guess so. And it looks like it's gonna be me today. Um, so, my question would be for for Mr Casanova in the on the file Section five one. I know we mentioned, you mentioned the that it doesn't show. I think the word users favoritism or or heavy handed in one direction of these different 490 01:06:29.700 --> 01:06:34.440 Philip Falcone: Qualifiers for members of the board here, the committee. But as far as I know the word Shao 491 01:06:34.830 --> 01:06:46.950 Philip Falcone: From a legal standpoint is a must. Right. So if it says the committee shall consist of a minimum of seven members, so forth. And then that list those seven members wouldn't, wouldn't the word shall be the binding there. 492 01:06:48.900 --> 01:07:05.790 David Casnocha: Yes, it is. So committees, a committee that is in full compliance with the education code and the bylaws would have at least seven members who would satisfy the criteria that are set forth in Section 5.1 493 01:07:07.020 --> 01:07:18.780 David Casnocha: So sometimes vacancies occur on an oversight committee probably statewide and I'm happened to be the bomb council for 90% of the community colleges in California. 494 01:07:19.260 --> 01:07:30.540 David Casnocha: They filling membership on an oversight committee is the biggest challenge. Most districts have with the oversight committee is getting people to want to participate. So they can seize exist. 495 01:07:31.590 --> 01:07:40.200 David Casnocha: It committee can continue to function with a vacancy. The legal obligation is to work diligently and in good faith to fill the vacancy. 496 01:07:41.010 --> 01:07:54.150 David Casnocha: Reason why I said that among those seven members. No one member is more important than another is to respond to the email for Mr ruling that suggested 497 01:07:54.690 --> 01:08:04.170 David Casnocha: That it would be illegal for the committee to me if there was not a member of a bonafide a taxpayer Association president at the meeting. 498 01:08:04.860 --> 01:08:13.380 David Casnocha: That's simply not a true statement. They'd be. Let's just pretend you didn't have a taxpayer Association rep so there'd be a vacancy. 499 01:08:13.950 --> 01:08:22.890 David Casnocha: The district would have a duty to fill the vacancy, but the same would be true if there wasn't a senior citizen on a committee. 500 01:08:23.490 --> 01:08:33.930 David Casnocha: If there was a vacancy you'd still be authorized to meet sending a gave notice and had a quorum and the district would continue to have to work to fill that vacancy. 501 01:08:34.590 --> 01:08:50.580 David Casnocha: So that's what I meant by the law doesn't provide greater status to any one of these five categories over another, they're equally important and the law doesn't explain how they came up with that mix. There was just some political 502 01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:53.490 David Casnocha: Outcome from Sacramento. 503 01:08:54.810 --> 01:08:58.230 Philip Falcone: Okay, thank you. And the other question may be somewhat more 504 01:08:59.310 --> 01:09:12.750 Philip Falcone: I don't know, arbitrary, but I'm this may be even a question for Vice Chancellor gold were so I understand in our bylaws here that it shows that board members can be removed or not their term re up to 505 01:09:14.460 --> 01:09:31.380 Philip Falcone: Based on for any time any reason, based on the the position of the Board of Trustees, but are we are we not entitled to at least some rationale, or or explanation or notice of a board member not being whether P. They resigned, whether it be, they are not 506 01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:39.810 Philip Falcone: reappointed or removed. I just, I think it's kind of, it's an unusual to arrive in a meeting so 507 01:09:39.870 --> 01:09:53.250 David Casnocha: The only reason I normally don't even talk about that section, when I review the bylaws for people. The only reason why I mentioned it today was because the email that you, I assume you were saying. 508 01:09:53.310 --> 01:09:53.730 Philip Falcone: I got it. 509 01:09:54.990 --> 01:10:00.630 David Casnocha: Said had the phrase removal of Jason Hunter from service on the committee. 510 01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:11.610 David Casnocha: That's the only reason I responded to that section of the bylaws because, to my knowledge, no one was removed from the committee, committee members terms expired. 511 01:10:12.180 --> 01:10:31.920 David Casnocha: And what a committee members terms expire. There's nothing to say that they can't apply to be reappointed to the committee for a second term because you can serve three consecutive terms before you have to take a break. So any member of an oversight committee whose term as expired. 512 01:10:33.300 --> 01:10:41.700 David Casnocha: You get a thank you for your service letter and you have the opportunity to submit an application form to be considered for reappointment of the committee. 513 01:10:42.450 --> 01:10:57.420 David Casnocha: And so that's the only reason why I called that section out and said, no one in my experience has ever been removed because it really would have a chilling effect on the public conversation regarding the functionality of the Oversight Committee. 514 01:11:01.050 --> 01:11:11.040 David Casnocha: I think the the logic of including that in the bylaws was there are districts where someone volunteers to be on the committee and they come to the first meeting and then never show up again. 515 01:11:12.330 --> 01:11:20.610 David Casnocha: And there needs to be a mechanism for that, for there to be a vacancy in that chair so that it can be filled by someone who would show up. 516 01:11:21.630 --> 01:11:35.970 David Casnocha: And so there is a lot of delinquency and attendance at some districts and the goal of the removal section is was really responding to. How can we get active participation. If we have a member who is 517 01:11:36.120 --> 01:11:38.310 Dwight: Not coming to meetings, that's really 518 01:11:39.180 --> 01:11:40.200 David Casnocha: All that was involved. 519 01:11:40.980 --> 01:11:51.870 Philip Falcone: Thank you. I think that's just probably a lack of I'm not familiar with the process from the district level at my background family comes from city of Riverside board and commissions and the way they operate is that 520 01:11:52.440 --> 01:12:01.260 Philip Falcone: When your term is coming to to next spider you receive a letter from the city clerk that says your term is expiring, would you be interested in serving 521 01:12:02.130 --> 01:12:11.400 Philip Falcone: For another term rather than sending sending in a new application. So that's perhaps my experience from a city level, which I know of course is different from the district level, so 522 01:12:12.450 --> 01:12:13.170 Philip Falcone: Thank you for that. 523 01:12:15.900 --> 01:12:18.330 warrenavery: That all the questions. Mr. Malcolm. 524 01:12:19.530 --> 01:12:20.820 Philip Falcone: For now, yes. Thank you. All right. 525 01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:24.810 warrenavery: I just have a follow up question maybe to the process. Right. So, you know, 526 01:12:25.830 --> 01:12:30.240 warrenavery: Philip brought up the point and city, you get a you get a note saying, Hey, would you like to do this again. 527 01:12:31.590 --> 01:12:42.270 warrenavery: In, you know, this is my second second meeting right so I'm not familiar with the renewal process. I don't think any committee members on this are in their second term, maybe, maybe I'm wrong, and we're all newbies but 528 01:12:43.500 --> 01:12:55.320 warrenavery: What is the process at the end. Do you get a letter saying, hey, as a reminder, your term is up, you must file another application is it up for the committee member to 529 01:12:55.740 --> 01:13:03.930 warrenavery: To be aware of themselves self awareness of their term is up and they need to file a an application. When do you file that application. And you know how much time. 530 01:13:04.200 --> 01:13:13.020 warrenavery: It should you do it before your term is up for all of us, right, that may want to to re up. Is there a timeline and then what does that process go to 531 01:13:13.950 --> 01:13:26.820 warrenavery: multiple applications. And then how is the decision may to go to the board on who is recommended. So maybe if if that's you miss school where Mr. Casanova, someone could kind of talk through that process of the renewal process. 532 01:13:28.320 --> 01:13:28.770 Dwight: Sure. 533 01:13:29.040 --> 01:13:38.760 Rebeccah Goldware: I'm to be quite candid. There are not a lot of written procedures. So those are things that within the structure of this committee, we can have a discussion about 534 01:13:39.240 --> 01:13:51.570 Rebeccah Goldware: Within the structure of the bylaws in David help me. I think it's 5.5 and it does lay out the latter part of the process which is as applications are solicited 535 01:13:51.960 --> 01:14:01.560 Rebeccah Goldware: And in that process and how we go out and solicit information. And that's basically as broadly as we can go to cast a broad NET applications are then come into the 536 01:14:01.980 --> 01:14:12.000 Rebeccah Goldware: District Office and my experience with this is fairly limited. We haven't had one, a lot of applications to David's point earlier of finding board members is not easy. 537 01:14:12.330 --> 01:14:16.860 Rebeccah Goldware: And and so the applications come in those then go through 538 01:14:17.400 --> 01:14:29.520 Rebeccah Goldware: To directory sock from myself and there's discussion and then applications move forward to the board for consideration that front process and then the post. We haven't had a lot of 539 01:14:29.910 --> 01:14:44.850 Rebeccah Goldware: Folks turnout in my term I came after people had already left, and there have been a couple of a people who have turned out both at the most recent past July meeting. And then before that I want to say it was I 540 01:14:46.140 --> 01:14:57.300 Rebeccah Goldware: December, January, and then in my first meetings I in mid 2019 we think a few people for their service, but the clarity from 541 01:14:59.430 --> 01:15:05.640 Rebeccah Goldware: That that renewal process I there. I don't have any process setup and we can 542 01:15:05.730 --> 01:15:06.540 David Casnocha: Establish that 543 01:15:07.260 --> 01:15:09.540 David Casnocha: She felt to work. 544 01:15:09.780 --> 01:15:17.040 David Casnocha: With the legal advice that the district and all my districts receive is one of the winter term expires. 545 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:25.110 David Casnocha: In some ways, it would be convenient to simply reappoint the person for a second term, whose term has expired. 546 01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:36.210 David Casnocha: But I think in some ways that would frustrate the intent of the law, which is to seek as broad public participation in the process as possible. That's why the bylaws say 547 01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:49.290 David Casnocha: That the process includes advertisement for members in local newspapers and on the website solicitation of local groups for applications. 548 01:15:49.710 --> 01:15:58.980 David Casnocha: So, so the advice that I give is when a term expires, the district should go through the process of advertising for evicted is when a term expires, there's going to be a vacancy. 549 01:15:59.670 --> 01:16:10.290 David Casnocha: So they have to advertise for applicants receive applications to give everyone a chance if they wanted to serve to serve and that includes 550 01:16:10.890 --> 01:16:20.520 David Casnocha: The termed out committee member who has the opportunity to submit an application, along with anyone else from the public, but there has to be, I think, 551 01:16:21.120 --> 01:16:32.010 David Casnocha: A public process to make sure that if there is somebody out there who's always wanted to serve on the committee that they have their chance to submit an application and be considered by the board of trustees. 552 01:16:33.990 --> 01:16:51.990 warrenavery: Okay, thank you. And I guess to that point, the, the bylaws, the current by law states a minimum of seven people. So you had mentioned that the biggest challenge for a committee, any committee is getting people to serve it to have that minimum seven number 553 01:16:53.610 --> 01:16:58.650 warrenavery: Is there a reason why we if and I don't know how many applications were accepted but 554 01:16:58.980 --> 01:17:07.950 warrenavery: Is there a reason why we don't allow people to be on to go above that seven. Let's say somebody drops off to your point, Mr casnocha somebody just starts to not show up. 555 01:17:08.190 --> 01:17:20.850 warrenavery: Somebody challenges, any one of the seven of us and our affiliation and then realize that one of us doesn't belong to who we said we belong to any number of things right, then you have that 556 01:17:21.210 --> 01:17:26.250 warrenavery: That the bench right, if you will. You got that you got someone else to it's already part of the committee to fill that spot. 557 01:17:27.330 --> 01:17:36.870 warrenavery: I guess I'm curious as to why why we're limiting the committee to seven, when the file I say only a minimum seven but there's no maximum number. I don't believe that the bylaws. 558 01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:43.770 David Casnocha: Say a maximum. Now, there's no there's no maximum number. So the law. You're right, and saying it's at least seven members. 559 01:17:44.250 --> 01:17:59.070 David Casnocha: So most committees have seven members are riverside unified, I think, has 13 members. So the arguments against a larger number are number one you need more people to show up to have a quorum. 560 01:18:00.060 --> 01:18:10.170 David Casnocha: So that's always a challenge. What do I need to have a quorum. Number two, there must have been a reason why of the seven seats that are required. 561 01:18:10.830 --> 01:18:26.970 David Casnocha: There'd be five representatives of certain perspectives. So if a district where to go out and say, well, let's have 15 members five representing the mandatory groups and 10 at large. Well, then you could get 10 friends of the 562 01:18:26.970 --> 01:18:28.260 David Casnocha: College to show up. 563 01:18:29.070 --> 01:18:38.010 David Casnocha: And it would be 10 to five, and there must have been some legislative reason of why these five mandatory seats. 564 01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:52.230 David Casnocha: Are sought their input is sought in the conversation. And if they get overwhelmed by at large members, then whatever the unique perspective of a senior or a business person or a taxpayer representative or a student 565 01:18:52.680 --> 01:19:00.420 David Casnocha: Would get lost in the noise of having 10 at large members, but you could certainly do that. And I think that 566 01:19:00.900 --> 01:19:17.520 David Casnocha: The Oversight Committee doesn't have the authority to change the bylaws. But if you were going to continue the conversation about what you think the bylaws should say in a perfect world and make a recommendation to the district as to what changes, you would recommend they consider 567 01:19:18.630 --> 01:19:31.560 David Casnocha: Among the recommendations would be doing large the size of the committee from seven to nine or seven to 10 or whatever you think were appropriate in, and I suspect that the Board of Trustees would have to consider that request. 568 01:19:34.290 --> 01:19:37.320 warrenavery: And I am going on to my questions and I'll go around the community. 569 01:19:38.550 --> 01:19:50.400 warrenavery: Is there someone. Is it new school where your staff, Mr cast noches. The District Council cuckoo verifies what's on. I don't know the answer right it verifies on part of the business community. 570 01:19:51.030 --> 01:20:02.400 warrenavery: Mr ball is a member of the senior citizen me right who is there someone that goes through and verifies what we put on our application or is the process to trust us until there's a reason not to. 571 01:20:06.150 --> 01:20:17.430 Rebeccah Goldware: Hey, my, my go to is trust but verify. And so while we don't go through the entire CVS that gets submitted to do complete backgrounds. 572 01:20:17.940 --> 01:20:22.800 Rebeccah Goldware: And that that's not the intent or what we have asked you all for permission to do 573 01:20:23.220 --> 01:20:35.970 Rebeccah Goldware: And but yes we do validate certain things. For example, if somebody submit an application and did not move it within the district that would not be something that we would consider and 574 01:20:36.810 --> 01:20:47.280 Rebeccah Goldware: Frankly, I missed one with Eva, she was still a student at the time when she originally submitted her application. And so we had to wait until she was no longer a student and 575 01:20:48.510 --> 01:20:57.060 Rebeccah Goldware: So yes, to some we don't do thorough background full backgrounds on our applicants so 576 01:20:57.960 --> 01:20:59.250 Rebeccah Goldware: I'll just curious. Yes. 577 01:20:59.790 --> 01:21:03.990 warrenavery: Right. All right. Um, alright, so I have the seven responsible for the 578 01:21:04.200 --> 01:21:06.720 Mike Vahl: Reward I was born in 1957 579 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:07.800 warrenavery: Well hey us 580 01:21:08.220 --> 01:21:08.970 Mike Vahl: Last week, 581 01:21:09.360 --> 01:21:17.280 warrenavery: I wouldn't, I wouldn't believe it, Mr ball. That's why I was challenged. I thought you were going to be the one challenge about being part of the senior citizen group. That's all I'm saying. 582 01:21:19.980 --> 01:21:20.400 Mike Vahl: Well, 583 01:21:21.930 --> 01:21:34.890 warrenavery: The other thing, and maybe this is just a point is we talked about. I know. The next thing on the agenda is the ad hoc committee to talk about some changes. And I know last time we we kind of all had some of these issues about the term independence this jackass nurture brings up the 584 01:21:36.120 --> 01:21:38.580 warrenavery: The independence side of it. 585 01:21:39.750 --> 01:21:48.240 warrenavery: I know I'm concerned that the board can remove anybody for any reason. Right. So I think that that kind of goes that that that 586 01:21:48.570 --> 01:21:59.490 warrenavery: That fear. I don't know. I think you may have used the term fear of of a decision or something. I think that there there is something to that that was to say, if I vote one way or the other. I disagree. 587 01:21:59.850 --> 01:22:10.530 warrenavery: That the board could say, you know what, we don't like that decision not saying it has happened or would happen. I think it just opens itself up right when you say can be removed for any reason. 588 01:22:10.710 --> 01:22:12.990 warrenavery: You know, cause must be you were 589 01:22:12.990 --> 01:22:32.730 David Casnocha: To ask me, What would my recommendation to the district be if a request to modify that provision that said removal would only be limited to cases in which a, a member missed two consecutive meetings without reasonable explanation and cut the rest of the stuff. Cut the for 590 01:22:32.790 --> 01:22:33.690 David Casnocha: Whatever cause 591 01:22:33.930 --> 01:22:34.200 Dwight: Yeah. 592 01:22:34.350 --> 01:22:36.750 David Casnocha: I would think that's a reasonable request, I would 593 01:22:36.750 --> 01:22:54.780 David Casnocha: Probably tell the district that's something that we should be able to write up and submit the Board of Trustees for approval, because that just that's not in the education code. So I think that that would be something that would be positive outcome of a request like that. Okay. 594 01:22:55.080 --> 01:22:57.450 warrenavery: I appreciate that. I will open it. 595 01:22:59.370 --> 01:23:07.560 warrenavery: I will ask any other committee members. Does anybody else have any other questions for Mr Casanova Jim is cold, where any other staff members. 596 01:23:11.550 --> 01:23:22.740 warrenavery: I give a second for any streaming issues. I don't see any questions. So thank you for your staff presentation. I think the next step is, and the next part of the agenda is the formation of the ad hoc committee. 597 01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:34.500 warrenavery: To go through some of these recommendations. I think the school where you talked about a renewal process, putting something in developing a renewal process for for all of us. 598 01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:42.540 warrenavery: Maybe a process to verify information on there or something and then the removal of a committee member 599 01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:51.180 warrenavery: Those three things come first to mind for me that we need to have an ad hoc committee for and I'm sure there may be some other things that 600 01:23:52.050 --> 01:24:05.790 warrenavery: That we discuss. So in the formation of an ad hoc committee, I will open it up to the committee members. Now, who would like to be a member of that ad hoc committee, Mr ball. I see. And as admins Rizvi yes 601 01:24:06.120 --> 01:24:06.450 Fauzia Rizvi: Yes. 602 01:24:06.810 --> 01:24:11.640 warrenavery: All right, sorry, the names were on there. I just had to remember I had some Miss Rizvi Mr Vol. 603 01:24:15.270 --> 01:24:19.050 warrenavery: writing this down so I don't forget. Is there anybody else. Miss petty 604 01:24:22.830 --> 01:24:35.820 warrenavery: All right, I see that. And then I don't know if there's a number of how many should be on an ad hoc for all right then I will take the fourth mile take this four spot unless anybody else on the committee, really, really wants to 605 01:24:35.970 --> 01:24:49.320 David Casnocha: But if you have four members of a subcommittee, and you have a meeting. That's a quorum, so that that would be a Brown Act meeting, you'd have to notice open to the public, which is why three 606 01:24:49.710 --> 01:24:57.180 David Casnocha: Okay, would be a much easier subcommittee to manage so you wouldn't have Brown Act requirements to satisfy 607 01:24:57.690 --> 01:25:03.090 warrenavery: Appreciate that. So, miss, Peggy. I don't mind if you'd like to be on there. Oh, Miss cold where I'll go ahead to 608 01:25:03.930 --> 01:25:28.680 Rebeccah Goldware: It's a point of order in the Minutes, the action item. I'm scrolling. Forgive me, and at the July I believe 23rd meeting the auction that Mr vol noted was to have a committee of four members. So I guess I would ask that you reestablish the committee with a lower number 609 01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:33.690 warrenavery: Mr. Hall, would you be willing to redo your motion to have three 610 01:25:34.110 --> 01:25:38.010 Mike Vahl: I will change the number to three of the emotion. We can revoke 611 01:25:38.460 --> 01:25:40.470 warrenavery: All right, so three. Do we have a second to move the 612 01:25:40.470 --> 01:25:42.540 Philip Falcone: I second that. I second that motion. 613 01:25:42.660 --> 01:25:45.510 warrenavery: Mr file colon seconds. Any discussion on that motion. 614 01:25:46.590 --> 01:25:50.100 warrenavery: Great, then I will call the question, Mr. Malcolm. 615 01:25:50.850 --> 01:25:52.650 warrenavery: Yes, Miss patty. 616 01:25:55.110 --> 01:25:55.590 Eva Petty: Yes. 617 01:25:56.670 --> 01:25:57.420 warrenavery: Miss Reynolds 618 01:25:59.400 --> 01:26:00.030 warrenavery: Miss Rizvi 619 01:26:00.630 --> 01:26:00.990 Yes. 620 01:26:02.010 --> 01:26:02.670 warrenavery: Mr. T. 621 01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:05.850 Dwight: Yeah, and Mr ball. 622 01:26:06.150 --> 01:26:15.690 warrenavery: Yes, and then I will also go yes so it's unanimous will have an ad hoc committee of three those committee members. Miss Patty, did you want to remove yourself or did you want to be on your call. 623 01:26:17.790 --> 01:26:20.190 Eva Petty: Um, so if I remove myself then you'll go ahead 624 01:26:20.310 --> 01:26:22.320 warrenavery: And I would I would take on that third. Yes. 625 01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:24.240 Eva Petty: Okay, then I 626 01:26:24.780 --> 01:26:25.740 Eva Petty: Move myself. Thank you. 627 01:26:26.010 --> 01:26:32.610 warrenavery: All right, and for a point of order, do we need to have a motion and a vote on these three members. Okay. 628 01:26:32.820 --> 01:26:33.510 warrenavery: I think I should 629 01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:38.430 warrenavery: But the motion for the three Members, Mr. Baum is Rizvi and myself to be on the ad hoc committee. 630 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:45.720 Philip Falcone: Yes, I moved that those three members, as stated by our chairman to be on the ad hoc committee to examine our bylaws. And that's my motion. 631 01:26:47.730 --> 01:27:02.070 warrenavery: Alright, Mr ball seconds that so the motion for Mr ball is where is the and myself to be on the Ad Hoc Committee to review the bylaws, and then come back at a future meeting with our recommendations to the committee. 632 01:27:03.300 --> 01:27:05.850 warrenavery: That is the motion. So we'll go through them as Falco home. 633 01:27:06.240 --> 01:27:06.840 Philip Falcone: Yes. 634 01:27:07.200 --> 01:27:08.820 Eva Petty: If any. Yes. 635 01:27:09.180 --> 01:27:10.920 Patricia: This Reynolds Yes. 636 01:27:11.070 --> 01:27:12.450 Fauzia Rizvi: Thursday. Yes. 637 01:27:12.990 --> 01:27:14.880 Dwight: This retake it 638 01:27:15.300 --> 01:27:15.990 warrenavery: Mr ball. 639 01:27:16.650 --> 01:27:18.840 warrenavery: Yes, and I vote yes so it's 640 01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:20.190 warrenavery: Unanimous so there we go. 641 01:27:21.300 --> 01:27:35.640 warrenavery: I think it's farther in the meeting. So I will take the responsibility of reaching out to you, Mr volume is Rizvi to set up our time at a time that works for the three of us to to get together and meet 642 01:27:36.780 --> 01:27:48.120 warrenavery: Julie at the last committee member and I might need to make emotion I miss my bad. I got I got going fast, right, last time we had Mr younger that was part of it. And I remember people will 643 01:27:48.180 --> 01:27:52.230 warrenavery: Like to his comments and like to his, his views on it. 644 01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:59.190 warrenavery: As a member of the public. Are we allowed to invite someone to that to 645 01:27:59.190 --> 01:28:03.330 warrenavery: Make their comments school where I'll leave that with you. What's your take. 646 01:28:03.510 --> 01:28:11.520 Rebeccah Goldware: I actually would like to defer to i by Mr cash nota on the engagement of outside within the 647 01:28:11.970 --> 01:28:29.730 Rebeccah Goldware: Ad Hoc subcommittee and would request. I also that when communications and meetings are happening that you make sure that myself and Renee are included. So we can continue to support, David, could you please address the outside membership to a subcommittee. 648 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:47.100 David Casnocha: Well, I don't think it would be a member of the subcommittee. But if the subcommittee wanted to get a point of view, express to the subcommittee from an outside person who they thought was knowledgeable in the field. 649 01:28:49.230 --> 01:28:56.100 David Casnocha: I mean, I don't know for sure, but it would strike me is not a completely unreasonable thing for a subcommittee to 650 01:28:57.150 --> 01:29:06.180 David Casnocha: Ask and time to provide his thoughts, whenever the subcommittee met but it wouldn't be as a member of the committee would be 651 01:29:06.810 --> 01:29:07.140 Again, 652 01:29:08.610 --> 01:29:20.010 warrenavery: Fine get opinions. I just want to make sure that we're doing everything by the book, I don't need to say in public right that we're going to ask him to be part of that if Mr ball and Miss Rosie and I agree that we want to have that 653 01:29:20.340 --> 01:29:21.060 warrenavery: Third party. 654 01:29:21.420 --> 01:29:28.500 warrenavery: Out there. So if we don't need to have emotion and we can invite you, Mr Casanova Jim is cool, whoever we want to be part of that. 655 01:29:28.830 --> 01:29:37.230 warrenavery: If that's understood, then I will have that as an understanding that the three of us will decide who we want to be part of that this was me, did you have a comment or question. 656 01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:39.360 warrenavery: You're on you. 657 01:29:42.240 --> 01:29:52.170 Fauzia Rizvi: So it all three of us has to be agreed on. Who's going to be who we are and ask for help or, you know, getting information. 658 01:29:52.920 --> 01:30:06.870 warrenavery: I don't necessarily think it has to be an agreement, I think any one of us could ask, and then we could ask those questions because because it's a discussion right, ultimately, it'll be for the three of us we can take anybody's things and say yes or no. 659 01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:15.540 warrenavery: But my feeling is if you wanted to invite someone whoever that might be that you could ask questions get an opinion, Mr ball and myself. 660 01:30:16.470 --> 01:30:28.200 warrenavery: That's, that's my, my take on and that's how I would like to proceed, just so we can get a wide basis of support and and questions and then it's up to the three of us to decide what we do with that information. 661 01:30:29.400 --> 01:30:30.120 warrenavery: That Sound fair 662 01:30:33.930 --> 01:30:34.290 warrenavery: Okay. 663 01:30:34.590 --> 01:30:37.050 warrenavery: Cool. All right, now we have a subcommittee. 664 01:30:37.260 --> 01:30:39.120 warrenavery: I should say an ad hoc committee. 665 01:30:40.230 --> 01:30:47.400 warrenavery: And then we will decide I'll reach out to both of you for the decisions or when we're going to do it. So Next on the agenda if 666 01:30:49.230 --> 01:30:56.520 warrenavery: HIS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. Everyone's had a chance to look at the minutes I will entertain a motion to 667 01:30:58.380 --> 01:30:59.370 warrenavery: approve the minutes. 668 01:31:01.170 --> 01:31:03.660 Patricia: You need separate motions or is one motion. Good. 669 01:31:09.150 --> 01:31:09.840 Patricia: Did you hear me. 670 01:31:10.140 --> 01:31:11.040 warrenavery: No, I'm sorry. I can see it. 671 01:31:11.370 --> 01:31:13.770 Patricia: Yeah. Did you do you need separate motions are 672 01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:20.280 warrenavery: in one motion demotion because there's two separate agenda items. So we'll start with minutes from July 16 2020 673 01:31:20.730 --> 01:31:21.990 Patricia: Okay. I'll move approval. 674 01:31:23.400 --> 01:31:23.970 warrenavery: We have second 675 01:31:26.220 --> 01:31:26.760 Eva Petty: A second 676 01:31:27.120 --> 01:31:30.720 warrenavery: All right, Miss Rizvi has a second. All right. Any discussion on the 677 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:33.750 Philip Falcone: Minutes, Miss. Miss Reynolds made the motion. 678 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:41.760 warrenavery: I mean it's rounds miss them. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Alright, so called question on APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM July 16 struck home. 679 01:31:42.300 --> 01:31:44.130 warrenavery: YES, IT'S PETTY 680 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:46.260 Eva Petty: Yes. 681 01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:48.330 Patricia: Miss Reynolds Yes. 682 01:31:48.540 --> 01:31:49.950 Fauzia Rizvi: Miss Rizvi yes 683 01:31:50.940 --> 01:31:51.570 warrenavery: Mr. T. 684 01:31:52.410 --> 01:31:53.880 Dwight: Yeah, Mr ball. 685 01:31:54.390 --> 01:31:57.720 warrenavery: Yes, and I believe, yes. So it's a seven zero unanimous. 686 01:31:58.950 --> 01:32:03.990 warrenavery: Alright, next. Do I have a motion for approval of minutes from July 23 2020 687 01:32:07.980 --> 01:32:08.940 Patricia: I'll move approval. 688 01:32:09.420 --> 01:32:11.460 Fauzia Rizvi: All right. I'll second. 689 01:32:12.330 --> 01:32:16.620 warrenavery: Review again with that. Sorry, I'm getting a computer charger. Alright, so 690 01:32:17.820 --> 01:32:23.550 warrenavery: We will do the color of the question on the APPROVAL OF MINUTES. Thank you miss home. 691 01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:26.040 warrenavery: Yes, Miss patty. 692 01:32:26.490 --> 01:32:27.000 Eva Petty: Yes. 693 01:32:27.510 --> 01:32:28.350 Miss Reynolds 694 01:32:29.790 --> 01:32:30.750 warrenavery: I'm sorry, you say yes. 695 01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:31.500 Patricia: Yes. 696 01:32:31.530 --> 01:32:33.060 warrenavery: Thank you, Miss Rosie. 697 01:32:33.390 --> 01:32:35.100 warrenavery: Yes, Mr. T. 698 01:32:35.940 --> 01:32:37.830 Dwight: Yes. And as well. 699 01:32:38.430 --> 01:32:39.030 Mike Vahl: Yes. 700 01:32:39.270 --> 01:32:54.870 warrenavery: All right. And I go, yes. So the Minutes are approved. Alright, moving on in the agenda measure see financial update report on Prop 39 funding financial and performance audit and letter presented by heading McGee from Clifton Larson Allen. 701 01:32:56.010 --> 01:33:06.990 Aaron Brown: So thank you share a read. This is Aaron ground Vice Chancellor of business and financial services. We have with us tonight john Garrity who is the controller for the district. 702 01:33:07.320 --> 01:33:09.090 Aaron Brown: As well as Heather McGee from 703 01:33:10.380 --> 01:33:20.640 Aaron Brown: The firm of CLA who perform the work on the measure see audit. First, I'd like to have john introduce the topic and then introduce Heather. 704 01:33:22.110 --> 01:33:29.190 John Geraghty: Hello i'm john Garrity I'm the district controller. Thank you, Chair Avery and board member for letting us present the annual audit. 705 01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:41.550 John Geraghty: Audit was completed by the audit for Clifton Larson Ellen Cl. Cl. A LLP got a director Heather Biggie now present on the audit reports, the committee. 706 01:33:43.590 --> 01:33:49.110 Heather McGee - CLA: THANK YOU, JOHN. Thank you, Erin. And thank you, Susan, the oversight committee for having me on tonight. 707 01:33:49.920 --> 01:34:00.690 Heather McGee - CLA: I feel like all the Board of Trustees introduction and then with the attorney that a lot of background on why you have an audit performed of Proposition 39 708 01:34:01.410 --> 01:34:14.700 Heather McGee - CLA: Has already been laid out for me so I don't have to do all that explanation. So thank you to them. And so somebody was going to bring up the audit reports and share screen. So let me bring that up. 709 01:34:25.530 --> 01:34:29.190 Renee Vigil: Mark or Archaea, can I have one of you guys share your screen, please. 710 01:34:30.360 --> 01:34:31.410 Renee Vigil: Or allow me to 711 01:34:32.250 --> 01:34:34.050 Heather McGee - CLA: Or I can, I can do it easily. 712 01:34:35.730 --> 01:34:40.470 Renee Vigil: I think we can hold for just security. So if somebody can share the agenda. 713 01:34:40.470 --> 01:34:40.890 Heather McGee - CLA: Okay. 714 01:34:41.280 --> 01:34:42.210 Renee Vigil: That would be awesome. 715 01:34:44.340 --> 01:34:46.770 Heather McGee - CLA: And I'll tell you which page to go to whoever brings that up. 716 01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:27.780 Heather McGee - CLA: There we go. So if you could turn to. So I'm going to refer to Adobe page. So in case anybody has their agenda up that way you can follow along very easily and the audit report. There you go. We have a table of contents, if you'll go to just the next page, which is page. 717 01:35:29.070 --> 01:35:33.690 Heather McGee - CLA: 20 and then go to 21 okay this is the page. I was going to look at 718 01:35:34.140 --> 01:35:41.250 Heather McGee - CLA: So your report includes two reports and one is on the financial statements and one is on the performance on it. 719 01:35:41.490 --> 01:35:52.350 Heather McGee - CLA: So the very beginning of the report starts with the what we refer to as attrition traditional financial statements. So it will include the balance sheet and the changes in revenues and expenditures 720 01:35:53.130 --> 01:36:02.220 Heather McGee - CLA: The opinion for this portion of the report is the page that we're looking at. Actually, if you go to the next page. I will point to where that opinion is 721 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:18.630 Heather McGee - CLA: So in the financial world. The main reason why an organization has a financial audit done so that somebody can rely on the financial information contained in the report. So the opinion that the district has received in regards to the bond and 722 01:36:19.350 --> 01:36:21.510 Heather McGee - CLA: Their capital outlay projects for the bonds. 723 01:36:22.350 --> 01:36:34.140 Heather McGee - CLA: Is a unmodified opinion but you're not going to see that language. What you're going to see is up at the very top of the letter Andrew opinion and it refers to in material respects presented fairly 724 01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:42.450 Heather McGee - CLA: And that's that's key language, especially if you serve on other boards and you're seeing other presentations. Then on the financial statements. That's always 725 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:49.320 Heather McGee - CLA: The information, the language that you're wanting to to see. So the slang for that is a clean opinion. 726 01:36:49.830 --> 01:37:05.880 Heather McGee - CLA: So the main thing with the financial statement portion of the audit is that there's really three points that most board members want to be aware of. They want to know what the opinion is if there were any audit adjustments and if there are any findings. So if we can go to page 23 727 01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:15.930 Heather McGee - CLA: Page 23 is the start of the financial statements. This is the balance sheet. And then the next page is the statement of revenue expenditures 728 01:37:16.200 --> 01:37:31.080 Heather McGee - CLA: There were no audit adjustments this year on the information that prepared is with the information that was provided by the district. So this should also match up with any type of reporting that you receive from management regarding the projects. 729 01:37:32.100 --> 01:37:35.700 Heather McGee - CLA: And as far as findings. If we go to page 23 730 01:37:38.580 --> 01:37:53.760 Heather McGee - CLA: I'll go ahead and get to the punch line there were no findings. This year, of course, throughout the audit, we're looking at a lot of information we're looking at the internal controls, we're looking at documentation. Actually it's page 23 of the Adobe document. I'm sorry 32 731 01:37:56.340 --> 01:38:07.140 Heather McGee - CLA: We're looking at a lot of data and information. And along the way, we might have some suggestions for management on how to improve documentation and so 732 01:38:08.070 --> 01:38:26.850 Heather McGee - CLA: We have those conversations and the audit world that comes up to different levels, whether we disclose them in a management letter or if we include them in the audit report. So at this point, there are no findings. Um, so actually this is the end of the report is it is it 32 733 01:38:27.990 --> 01:38:28.830 Heather McGee - CLA: The Adobe file. 734 01:38:31.980 --> 01:38:34.770 Renee Vigil: Sorry, Heather, can you clarify which page. Oh 32 735 01:38:34.830 --> 01:38:35.820 Heather McGee - CLA: Now it's popping up. 736 01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:36.600 So sorry. 737 01:38:38.550 --> 01:38:39.360 Renee Vigil: I know 738 01:38:39.960 --> 01:38:40.920 Renee Vigil: I'm like, where I said, 739 01:38:42.690 --> 01:38:43.410 Renee Vigil: Well, geez. 740 01:38:43.440 --> 01:38:46.530 Heather McGee - CLA: There you go. There we go. Perfect. Never on The Know, or on the right page. 741 01:38:48.480 --> 01:38:51.780 Heather McGee - CLA: OK, so the findings are included in the financial report. 742 01:38:51.780 --> 01:38:59.640 Heather McGee - CLA: In which there were none. And also, if there were findings. Last year we would also follow up and report on that there were no fun, you did last year's report either 743 01:39:00.210 --> 01:39:11.310 Heather McGee - CLA: So that's the financial piece of the audit on the next the next portion of this report, if you go to the next page has to do with the performance piece and that has a lot to do with 744 01:39:11.970 --> 01:39:17.880 Heather McGee - CLA: You know, the great background that we got from the attorney and you can stop right there. That's great. And 745 01:39:18.750 --> 01:39:31.050 Heather McGee - CLA: Really the when the voters approve this they wanted to make sure that certain projects were completed. So this is that piece of the required audit that's being performed. So this is referred to as 746 01:39:31.530 --> 01:39:45.450 Heather McGee - CLA: Performance and it has a little bit different language. Earlier we are talking about presented fairly material respects where this letter, we're looking at the very last paragraph and it's as a result of our test that there's 747 01:39:47.040 --> 01:39:59.550 Heather McGee - CLA: That they indicate that there in significant respects that the funds were spent correctly. So really this letter is driven by specific objectives if we go to the next page. Page 34 748 01:40:02.550 --> 01:40:10.890 Heather McGee - CLA: Will see those objects chapters are listed out. So those objectives really are to obtain a detail of all the expenditures charge to that fun 749 01:40:11.250 --> 01:40:20.550 Heather McGee - CLA: And then select and test those expenditures accordingly accordingly to make sure that they match up with the approved projects approved by the voters basically 750 01:40:21.510 --> 01:40:38.370 Heather McGee - CLA: If we go to the next page will have a summary of the procedures performed. So for our audit. We did test 20 non salary expenditures which amounted to $2 million 300 on excuse me 2,034,448 751 01:40:39.210 --> 01:40:47.640 Heather McGee - CLA: That came out to a coverage of 68% so that's actually a pretty high coverage and again if you work with other organizations or see other 752 01:40:47.940 --> 01:40:58.980 Heather McGee - CLA: audit reports presented this is unique and normally you don't get that coverage. So this is a very specific audit with a high coverage of expenditures that are being tested. 753 01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:10.650 Heather McGee - CLA: As the attorney was referring to with what salaries can be charged to we do we look at the the salaries and this is us reporting back that we reviewed everybody that's charged to the bond project. 754 01:41:10.890 --> 01:41:29.010 Heather McGee - CLA: And made sure that whoever's be in charge there that it's appropriate. They are not administrative personnel. They're individuals who are specifically working on the bond project. So in conclusion, with our tests and the expenditures were spent correctly for this fiscal year. 755 01:41:32.940 --> 01:41:36.780 Heather McGee - CLA: Anything else you would like to add john or any questions from the committee. 756 01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:51.150 John Geraghty: No, I just appreciate all everything you did. I mean, this is a more challenging year as everybody's remote and you did a great job and performing this on it and you know we found new ways to get data back and forth. 757 01:41:53.010 --> 01:41:57.960 Heather McGee - CLA: We did. It's really what everybody is going through is definitely going to change the way that we do business. 758 01:42:00.450 --> 01:42:08.340 warrenavery: Right, MISS MAGGIE. Thank you. I think this is just, I'll make sure does any committee members have any questions for em security. 759 01:42:09.360 --> 01:42:13.950 Patricia: No questions. I just want to say thank you to the staff and the management. 760 01:42:15.120 --> 01:42:26.880 Patricia: I know we stop Ivers come and look at things we were always nervous to get that final report and this looks really good. And you're right, you're a very difficult time so I appreciate all your hard work. Thank you. 761 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:28.410 Patricia: Thank you. 762 01:42:28.590 --> 01:42:29.820 Heather McGee - CLA: Okay, have a great meeting. 763 01:42:30.660 --> 01:42:40.260 warrenavery: Thank you, Miss Reynolds and I think she speaks for all of us as thanking you for your time and effort, putting this out. So thanks, Miss Reynolds for for that and thank you both to for putting that together. 764 01:42:40.620 --> 01:42:52.110 warrenavery: I think for its information. There's nothing procedurally. I don't think we need to vote to receive and file. I think this is just all information, so we'll move on to the project commitments summary report. 765 01:42:53.910 --> 01:42:58.500 Aaron Brown: Thank you again and a chair. Every the next report is the 766 01:43:00.150 --> 01:43:04.680 Aaron Brown: Project commitment summary report and this is a report of 767 01:43:06.480 --> 01:43:21.240 Aaron Brown: Budget action taken by the board during the period in question as well as any expenditures that have been made and it's reflected on this report here to give that report is Mitch ask our director of business services. 768 01:43:22.650 --> 01:43:41.730 Majd Askar: Hello, so I'm the project commitment summary report is a financial report and this is a summary of all financial activities as of sep tember 32,020 the highlighted sections are going to reflect financial changes. That was last reported at the July 2020 meeting. 769 01:43:42.750 --> 01:43:52.620 Majd Askar: So you'll see that there's a reduction in cash in hand at 1.1 million since we last reported and that's mainly related to the expenditures 770 01:43:53.460 --> 01:44:07.920 Majd Askar: Related to the student services. Welcome Center project at miRNA Valley then Clark corrections platform a project that Marina Valley and elevator modernization and fire alarm system repair project at Marina Valley. 771 01:44:08.820 --> 01:44:21.390 Majd Askar: There's more expenses, but those are the larger expenses related to that cash reduction that you see there's also an increase in total peace proceeds, and that is due to interest in income. 772 01:44:22.500 --> 01:44:30.960 Majd Askar: And if you go on to the white one, one second. I'm sorry. And there's also you'll see at the very bottom, the change in 773 01:44:31.860 --> 01:44:43.140 Majd Askar: In progress projects and that is related to the changes in budget that would be attributed to the budget increase for the riverside city college life science and physical science project. 774 01:44:44.400 --> 01:44:47.940 Majd Askar: In a matter of 6,000,006.3 million for measure see 775 01:44:49.170 --> 01:44:55.860 Majd Askar: And we also have the reconciliation of the feasibility planning, management staffing budget line. 776 01:44:56.730 --> 01:45:16.410 Majd Askar: Which was a reduction of 780 7000 so those were the budget changes if you go on to the next pages, Renee. You'll see the highlights that are specific to those changes as it relates to budget increases or as it relates to any of the expenditures 777 01:45:17.370 --> 01:45:22.020 Majd Askar: Not detailed in both sections. If you have any questions, I can go over that. 778 01:45:24.630 --> 01:45:34.860 warrenavery: So just the 1.1 is what we actually spent in this last quarter. There's 1.1 billion out of measure see on the projects that were already approved. That's actually the money that that was paid out during this time. 779 01:45:35.220 --> 01:45:38.460 Majd Askar: Correct. That's cash. Okay, decrease 780 01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:46.620 warrenavery: And and I don't know the answer. Maybe it was approved before when there are budget changes, you know, life science building said okay, you know, change and it costs more. 781 01:45:47.100 --> 01:45:56.250 warrenavery: Was that done and approved for previous was that already brought to to our committee, a while back, or is this something now that we we see how, what's that process. 782 01:45:56.310 --> 01:46:15.810 Majd Askar: So when we approve a budget, it goes to our Board of Trustees for board approval. They approve the measure C. And they also approved other funding in this mike science project we have additional funding and that's when the state as well as the general fund funding for this project. 783 01:46:16.080 --> 01:46:28.500 Aaron Brown: Yeah, so every, every project budget that uses utilizes Mr safe and goes to our Board of Trustees for approval, you'll see on the neck in the section eight major see project update 784 01:46:29.010 --> 01:46:40.560 Aaron Brown: One of the items. A is board reports and that will reflect the action bar board from the time of the last citizens bomb oversight committee meeting. Gotcha. Okay, thank you. 785 01:46:40.620 --> 01:46:41.640 Thanks for the clarification. 786 01:46:43.770 --> 01:46:54.810 warrenavery: All right. Does anybody else on the committee have a question. I can't see everybody so any other committee members with her sharing her screen. Any other committee members have any other questions for Mr. 787 01:46:55.710 --> 01:47:06.180 warrenavery: Or not. I can see everybody. I don't see any questions. So, on behalf of the committee, thank you so much for your time and bringing this together. I appreciate it. Thank you. Welcome. 788 01:47:07.380 --> 01:47:12.240 warrenavery: Okay. Next, the capital Program Executive Summary Report. 789 01:47:12.570 --> 01:47:29.100 Aaron Brown: So thank you again. Maj will stay on the line to go over this report as well. This is our planning worksheet as it relates to the allocation of funds to each of our entities, as well as the various projects that are associated with them. So imagine, go ahead. 790 01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:34.680 Majd Askar: So you're going to continue going Renee to the 791 01:47:35.790 --> 01:47:36.990 Majd Askar: There we go, there we go. 792 01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:48.360 Renee Vigil: You want Page one of this report match because it would be afraid. 793 01:47:49.740 --> 01:47:52.260 Majd Askar: We're gonna go to the capital programming. 794 01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:53.820 Aaron Brown: Page 58 795 01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:57.450 Renee Vigil: Sorry. Thanks again. 796 01:48:02.310 --> 01:48:02.760 Majd Askar: Right here. 797 01:48:04.470 --> 01:48:19.890 Majd Askar: So as Aaron mentioned, this is a budget document that we use to keep track of projects that have been sent to the board and approved by a board. It keeps track of budgets per entity as well. The changes that you will see reflected on this report. 798 01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:25.380 Majd Askar: Were for the period of July one through September 30 and they include 799 01:48:26.430 --> 01:48:38.370 Majd Askar: What we just talked about. That was the feasibility and planning, management staff budget line that was reconciled from a fiscal year 1920 estimated Budget to Actual 800 01:48:39.120 --> 01:48:48.660 Majd Askar: And there was also the budget change to the riverside city life science physical science project in the amount of 6.3 million for the measure see 801 01:48:52.590 --> 01:48:58.200 Majd Askar: OK, so the remaining pages just detailed that and you'll see that entity. 802 01:49:00.450 --> 01:49:11.160 warrenavery: And then I noticed on that first page, it looks like uncommitted funds. That's what's that's what's left over. That's still left to be spent for measure C is the 1.1 million bottom right hand corner. That's what's still leftover 803 01:49:11.400 --> 01:49:17.310 Aaron Brown: Correct. It's not. Yeah, it's amount that has not been committed to a specific project at this point. 804 01:49:17.640 --> 01:49:27.900 Aaron Brown: Okay, there's actually you'll know you may have noticed on the project commitment summary report. There's $40 million of actual cash to spend on the various projects. 805 01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:36.060 Aaron Brown: Most of which have already been committed, but there is still a little over a million dollars that has not been committed to a specific project. 806 01:49:37.770 --> 01:49:42.540 Aaron Brown: So that's available for future commitments. Okay. 807 01:49:47.220 --> 01:49:47.970 warrenavery: Is that, is that 808 01:49:49.080 --> 01:49:51.330 warrenavery: Is that the report, Miss Oscars, you have other stuff. 809 01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:52.320 Majd Askar: That's it. It's 810 01:49:53.040 --> 01:49:54.060 warrenavery: Going to cut you off on 811 01:49:54.120 --> 01:50:02.700 Majd Askar: Okay, no, no, I'm fine. That's it. The, the remaining pages just detail by entity those changes. Okay, thank you. 812 01:50:03.360 --> 01:50:08.580 warrenavery: Thank you Amy committee members have any questions for Miss asked her, Mr. Brown. 813 01:50:10.830 --> 01:50:18.180 warrenavery: Don't see any questions. So once again, on behalf of the committee, thank you for thank you for being here today and thank you for your time putting this together for us. 814 01:50:20.010 --> 01:50:25.380 warrenavery: Alright, moving on to section eight of the agenda measure see project updates. 815 01:50:26.430 --> 01:50:32.490 warrenavery: Stole your thunder, a little bit there, Mr. Brown, but looks like we have board reports august 2020 through September 2020 816 01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:51.270 Aaron Brown: Yeah, thank you, thank you again to recovery. So on this session we have more reports and also the literacy project summary status updates, which will be presented by our Associate Vice Chancellor of facilities planning and development Hussein, a guy. So who's saying, Please go ahead. Sure. 817 01:50:51.630 --> 01:50:59.010 Hussain Agah: Awkward evening, everyone. This is for seeing, I guess, a few basketball star facilities planning and development and thanks for waiting. You're on the right page. 818 01:50:59.730 --> 01:51:14.910 Hussain Agah: So this is the board report we have actually indeed we have 5.3 persons last time we met. So this is the first one. This is the selection of the architectural services for riverside city coming to life science physical science and the 819 01:51:15.180 --> 01:51:16.830 Dwight: Amount of 2.3 million 820 01:51:16.830 --> 01:51:21.630 Hussain Agah: Of which we utilize mature see for the for this project. 821 01:51:22.980 --> 01:51:25.260 Aaron Brown: So, and in one of the things that 822 01:51:27.150 --> 01:51:33.030 Aaron Brown: David casnocha mentioned earlier was the efficient use of resources so 823 01:51:33.990 --> 01:51:47.550 Aaron Brown: Maybe since we have a whole new crop of citizens bond oversight committee members. We may I think it would be beneficial to have a session on what our process and procedures are as it relates to the acquisition of 824 01:51:48.420 --> 01:51:59.730 Aaron Brown: Professional Services, as well as what we do as far as bids, but this is an example of a public request for proposal and qualifications for architectural services. 825 01:52:00.870 --> 01:52:13.260 Aaron Brown: I don't recall exactly how many were. I think there was five and then there's a committee established to review all of the submissions based on this specs that we put out for puzzle. 826 01:52:14.100 --> 01:52:27.990 Aaron Brown: The committee that evaluates all of those proposals and goes through a scoring criteria and then ultimately makes a selection and recommends a that selection to the Board of Trustees for approval. 827 01:52:31.200 --> 01:52:40.830 warrenavery: To then this report is was the background. And then, was it the and I see the background was a architectural firm then chosen and recommend it to the board at the last at the last meeting. 828 01:52:41.940 --> 01:52:43.680 Hussain Agah: Nothing. Oh, yes. Okay. 829 01:52:44.550 --> 01:52:51.900 warrenavery: And then this is part of the I see 2.2 million. This was already part of the committed funds towards the life sciences project correct not anything new. 830 01:52:52.230 --> 01:53:03.180 Aaron Brown: Yes, correct. They, they approve a total project budget and this is the one of the expenditures that are associated with that project total project budget. 831 01:53:03.630 --> 01:53:04.320 warrenavery: Fair enough. Thank you. 832 01:53:06.990 --> 01:53:17.190 Hussain Agah: Next report is page one on 8pm and scroll down, lots of the pages. It's basically the copy and professional services, which is about 50 833 01:53:18.870 --> 01:53:22.020 warrenavery: This is the winning bid here or it was this the RFP that 834 01:53:22.200 --> 01:53:25.680 Hussain Agah: That's actually the architecture or services agreement. Okay. 835 01:53:27.090 --> 01:53:29.250 Hussain Agah: All the backup including their proposal. 836 01:53:31.770 --> 01:53:32.700 Hussain Agah: Page 28 837 01:53:41.730 --> 01:53:55.200 Hussain Agah: Report, the Board of Trustees approve the agreement amendment number one for HP architectural for Moreno Valley students service will come center project and the amount of 19 400,000 838 01:53:57.030 --> 01:53:59.970 Hussain Agah: For additional to the architect. Okay. 839 01:54:03.180 --> 01:54:07.410 Hussain Agah: Next point is 111 hundred 33 840 01:54:15.240 --> 01:54:23.100 Hussain Agah: This report approving the riverside city college life science physical science for construction project and the project budget in the total 841 01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:29.130 Hussain Agah: Amount of 30 842 01:54:32.490 --> 01:54:34.680 warrenavery: You're not on mute. You might want to go. There we go. Okay. 843 01:54:36.270 --> 01:54:36.510 warrenavery: So, 844 01:54:36.660 --> 01:54:44.850 Hussain Agah: So this, this boy report approving the riverside city college life science physical science for construction project in the total amount of 35 million 845 01:54:45.990 --> 01:54:57.300 Hussain Agah: Which includes portion of, you know, Steve. Steve, Steve. Find the project, which includes the capital outlay funding from the state was measure C and additional resources local resources. 846 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:02.820 Hussain Agah: And this this was approved by the board on August eating. 847 01:55:05.730 --> 01:55:06.000 Right. 848 01:55:07.140 --> 01:55:13.980 Hussain Agah: Next item 1126 849 01:55:21.150 --> 01:55:27.270 Hussain Agah: This this item basically approving contract agreement amendment number one with Tony coil God 850 01:55:28.320 --> 01:55:32.160 Hussain Agah: Contractors, which is basically constructor, which is the Senior Services for 851 01:55:33.750 --> 01:55:40.710 Hussain Agah: But in a body college Ben Clark drink center correctional platform in the total amount of 30,000 852 01:55:43.800 --> 01:55:44.100 Okay. 853 01:55:45.780 --> 01:55:49.980 Hussain Agah: Last one is between 29 854 01:55:55.560 --> 01:56:06.990 Hussain Agah: This board report approving the Construction Management Services Agreement with the CW driver for the marina Valley College bank or training center education building phase one. 855 01:56:08.100 --> 01:56:11.250 Hussain Agah: The entire project actually is me. Just see mine. 856 01:56:15.570 --> 01:56:15.960 warrenavery: Okay. 857 01:56:16.890 --> 01:56:19.530 Hussain Agah: So that concludes the body report for this time. 858 01:56:20.940 --> 01:56:26.280 warrenavery: Great, thank you. Any questions for Mr a god or Mr. Brown from the committee members. 859 01:56:28.860 --> 01:56:31.770 warrenavery: Seeing none, Mr. God thank you on behalf of the 860 01:56:31.770 --> 01:56:36.330 warrenavery: Community for putting this together and and presenting this information to us. 861 01:56:38.100 --> 01:56:43.740 warrenavery: Alright, so moving on measure see project summary status updates. 862 01:56:45.690 --> 01:56:47.880 Aaron Brown: So take this one as well. 863 01:57:00.720 --> 01:57:12.660 Hussain Agah: Right. So as you can see this. The somebody update report as of October 15 and you can see three three colleges. I'm going to start off with the riverside City College. 864 01:57:13.740 --> 01:57:31.680 Hussain Agah: So we have the riverside city college life science physical science with construction project we discuss the approval of the project by the board in August. The project is currently in the preliminary planning phase. So, we are moving forward with the design. 865 01:57:31.710 --> 01:57:34.500 Hussain Agah: Meeting with the stakeholders to develop the 866 01:57:34.860 --> 01:57:36.870 Hussain Agah: Facility and the design of a solid 867 01:57:39.180 --> 01:57:50.580 Hussain Agah: The next project for riverside City College is the greenhouse building project. This was approved by the board and the total amount of 672,000 which includes 868 01:57:51.870 --> 01:58:05.460 Hussain Agah: 500 a month 500,000 from measure C and the rest of lack of resources. The project is currently under construction and expected to be completed by end of this year. 869 01:58:08.190 --> 01:58:19.410 Hussain Agah: At Medina Bali college and we have three academic projects funded by me to see, including the student service for comm center. We are currently in construction phase. 870 01:58:20.970 --> 01:58:25.950 Hussain Agah: And within budget of the project experience have you delayed is geared to 871 01:58:27.030 --> 01:58:45.090 Hussain Agah: My different shut down for concrete plans due to the heatwave and Mine didn't shut down for 60 by the, by this thing. So it's only 10 days and we believe we're going to be able to recover those over the course of the construction period. 872 01:58:46.890 --> 01:58:55.530 Hussain Agah: The other project and Marina volley colleague is Ben Clark training several things. One, we are in the final stages of the design of the projects and 873 01:58:56.580 --> 01:59:06.060 Hussain Agah: In potentially will be signed by the sign up by the College. By the end of the year and submitting to the division of state architect. 874 01:59:07.350 --> 01:59:16.440 Hussain Agah: In during this period. Also we we engage the construction management company which is CW driver and they started as of 875 01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:18.840 Hussain Agah: As of two weeks ago. 876 01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:35.220 Hussain Agah: The last program, but nobody nobody nobody colleges, the elevator and fire alarm upgrades the elevator project is has been completed as of September 20 the fire alarm is chemically 877 01:59:36.240 --> 01:59:44.430 Hussain Agah: It's in the design, development phase and will be submitted to the division of state architect for approval. When the design. When the design is complete. 878 01:59:46.980 --> 01:59:59.880 Hussain Agah: The last project we see here is for like Marina, sorry, I'd be normal College, which is the field field turf in the only pending item on that project is 879 02:00:00.690 --> 02:00:14.160 Hussain Agah: The accessibility scope, a fork and that still pending Vivian's the artistic for approval so as soon as he gets approved by the by the seat, we will build it out and install the in 880 02:00:15.480 --> 02:00:16.920 Hussain Agah: Flight or for that project. 881 02:00:18.330 --> 02:00:23.940 Hussain Agah: That concludes the report for the construction update and we'll be happy to answer any question. 882 02:00:25.440 --> 02:00:28.440 warrenavery: Great, thank you. Any questions from committee members. 883 02:00:30.330 --> 02:00:34.170 warrenavery: I don't see any. So Mr. Got one. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. 884 02:00:36.660 --> 02:00:37.830 warrenavery: Oh, you're on you and Mr ball. 885 02:00:39.480 --> 02:00:41.160 Mike Vahl: I've got the raise hand up here, but 886 02:00:42.180 --> 02:00:43.470 warrenavery: I didn't see it. My bad. 887 02:00:43.830 --> 02:00:44.280 Okay. 888 02:00:45.420 --> 02:00:47.490 Mike Vahl: Who's saying you list. 889 02:00:49.560 --> 02:00:54.270 Mike Vahl: The last I think was the last one you showed from the 890 02:00:55.680 --> 02:00:59.550 Mike Vahl: Board actions are the second to the last one with the life sciences building 891 02:01:00.600 --> 02:01:04.560 Mike Vahl: For 6.7 million. Isn't that the future project. Correct. 892 02:01:07.230 --> 02:01:09.630 Hussain Agah: Um, I'm not sure which one you're referring to. 893 02:01:09.960 --> 02:01:11.070 Mike Vahl: Page 108 894 02:01:11.310 --> 02:01:12.270 Mike Vahl: I think it was 895 02:01:12.870 --> 02:01:14.610 warrenavery: Anything back to the board reports. 896 02:01:18.270 --> 02:01:18.540 I think 897 02:01:23.310 --> 02:01:23.850 Mike Vahl: That 898 02:01:25.920 --> 02:01:27.000 Mike Vahl: One 113 sorry 899 02:01:28.080 --> 02:01:29.610 Mike Vahl: This one says 900 02:01:31.230 --> 02:01:36.570 Mike Vahl: This is been approved with 6,000,006.1 million for measure see 901 02:01:37.020 --> 02:01:42.450 Mike Vahl: Right. Wouldn't that be listed as a future project in your list on page 155 902 02:01:43.320 --> 02:01:45.450 Hussain Agah: Actually not the first project that we talked about. 903 02:01:46.500 --> 02:01:47.160 Mike Vahl: That's what 904 02:01:47.490 --> 02:01:48.510 Hussain Agah: The first project. 905 02:02:01.770 --> 02:02:02.190 Hussain Agah: Signs 906 02:02:03.480 --> 02:02:04.110 Hussain Agah: Look too far. 907 02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:09.930 Mike Vahl: First projects was five years. 908 02:02:10.200 --> 02:02:18.090 Hussain Agah: Watching right um it was part of the five year construction, a plan. It's the life science physical science reconstruction. 909 02:02:18.630 --> 02:02:21.780 Mike Vahl: Okay. Yep. Okay, all I saw was the headline. 910 02:02:23.400 --> 02:02:23.850 Hussain Agah: Okay. 911 02:02:24.120 --> 02:02:24.480 Mike Vahl: Thank you. 912 02:02:25.020 --> 02:02:34.950 Hussain Agah: And the only reason we can be extinct in the five year capital construction plan because it's state funded project and has a big component finding 26 913 02:02:34.950 --> 02:02:36.150 Mike Vahl: Million over to the state. 914 02:02:36.570 --> 02:02:37.020 Hussain Agah: That's true. 915 02:02:38.520 --> 02:02:40.080 Mike Vahl: Okay, great. Thank you. 916 02:02:41.850 --> 02:02:45.780 warrenavery: All right, any other questions for Mr. Dr. 917 02:02:47.820 --> 02:02:55.680 warrenavery: I don't see any so much regard, Mr. Brown. Thank you for your time on putting together this report as well. Appreciate it. Thank you. 918 02:02:57.780 --> 02:03:04.320 warrenavery: Alright, so moving on to number nine business from committee members. I think this is stuff that we talked about in our last 919 02:03:05.310 --> 02:03:21.510 warrenavery: Meeting campus tours. Obviously, we're still in the coven world. So it has here, possibly virtual tours. I don't know if that's a school where Mr. Brown, if that's someone has any thoughts are as broad ideas for us for these tours. 920 02:03:22.260 --> 02:03:30.570 Rebeccah Goldware: I'm happy to start the conversation. And so this I believe number Rizvi raised this 921 02:03:31.110 --> 02:03:37.620 Rebeccah Goldware: One or two meetings ago and the pandemic is proving to be interesting. One of the things that I think 922 02:03:38.010 --> 02:03:52.680 Rebeccah Goldware: The colleges in general would be open to instead of groups coming. We could do one or two. So what at this point I'm knowing that Riverside County, while we are in red there is active discussion about shifting back into purple. 923 02:03:53.100 --> 02:04:04.170 Rebeccah Goldware: And knowing that our college our colleges are online through the spring, with the exception of a handful of lab type of situations where we have a little more flexibility. 924 02:04:04.560 --> 02:04:12.600 Rebeccah Goldware: And if it would be acceptable to this group between myself and Renee, we would coordinate with the various colleges and set up. 925 02:04:13.080 --> 02:04:20.490 Rebeccah Goldware: At most, to have you on to visit and that would allow us to coordinate with the staff on the sites. 926 02:04:21.090 --> 02:04:26.940 Rebeccah Goldware: One, not to violate Brown Act as well and then allow some flexibility with schedules, as I know 927 02:04:27.600 --> 02:04:32.850 Rebeccah Goldware: You all have different times of day, that will be the next point. We talked about in terms of scheduling these meetings. 928 02:04:33.210 --> 02:04:48.900 Rebeccah Goldware: And but that would allow some folks to be able to come in the morning if that would fit better within their schedules. So that was an idea I want to deposit to the committee. The other option if we wanted to have large a larger group is I would probably need to wait until 929 02:04:50.310 --> 02:04:56.070 Rebeccah Goldware: The beginning of early 21 to reengage conversation at our next meeting in January. 930 02:04:58.320 --> 02:05:06.450 warrenavery: Is really, I know you brought this to the board's attention last meeting, would you like to, you know, any comments or thoughts. I'll let you go first. Since you brought it last time. 931 02:05:06.960 --> 02:05:12.060 Fauzia Rizvi: I'm open to going to people if that's okay with everybody to, you know, one to two people. 932 02:05:12.930 --> 02:05:23.070 Fauzia Rizvi: It might be a lot of work for the staff and coordination, but this is something that we can do. Or we can all wait early next year, see how things go. 933 02:05:23.610 --> 02:05:39.570 Fauzia Rizvi: This pandemic, you know, especially next couple of months, how it turns out. And we can wait till then, I have I'm okay. It was a suggestion that I thought that it's a nice idea for us to see where the money has been spent and mirror what's going on so 934 02:05:41.490 --> 02:05:53.250 warrenavery: I agree, Miss Rosie. I know it's a lot for the, the staff, but maybe, maybe not. Everybody wants to do it right, too. So maybe if you throw it out there. Hey, here's a time I'll take the first two who say yes. 935 02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:56.280 warrenavery: That type of thing. And then here's the next opportunity. 936 02:05:56.490 --> 02:06:11.580 warrenavery: The first two to say yes. And then maybe you nobody says yes, that they want to go to that tour. Right. So if you're okay with that staff and then knowing that the committee members. When you get an email from this goal, where or this visual that says, hey, 937 02:06:12.120 --> 02:06:15.570 warrenavery: It's time for a meeting, then you got then you got to go right so 938 02:06:16.800 --> 02:06:17.610 warrenavery: How's that sound. 939 02:06:21.330 --> 02:06:24.480 Eva Petty: Good. I was gonna say I had a question. 940 02:06:24.510 --> 02:06:26.190 Eva Petty: Sorry, sorry, Mike. Hold on. Real quick, I 941 02:06:26.190 --> 02:06:32.250 Eva Petty: Just wanted to ask, real quick, um, were there any other potential 942 02:06:33.330 --> 02:06:36.540 Eva Petty: Virtual options or that's that's 943 02:06:37.650 --> 02:06:38.520 Eva Petty: Not an option. 944 02:06:40.170 --> 02:06:49.140 Rebeccah Goldware: I would love for that to be an option. I don't have a drone policy yet so I don't have a drone and the other option that we can look into. 945 02:06:49.590 --> 02:06:56.760 Rebeccah Goldware: That I am getting information still on. I don't have a lot of clarity on it yet, is we could create the tour. I mean, 946 02:06:57.180 --> 02:07:04.380 Rebeccah Goldware: I have an iPhone. Many of us have phones with cameras. We could go through and walk the space and create 947 02:07:05.160 --> 02:07:21.060 Rebeccah Goldware: In essence, a video for you. And that is it is different than coming to the physical location. And that's something my appreciation I candidly didn't notice archaea, who's on this call and helping on the back end today and for sharing some information. So that's another 948 02:07:22.710 --> 02:07:24.120 Rebeccah Goldware: Piece that we could look into. 949 02:07:24.570 --> 02:07:27.420 Rebeccah Goldware: For those who may not be able to or want to come on site. 950 02:07:27.630 --> 02:07:30.210 Rebeccah Goldware: So that's something we can consider as well. 951 02:07:31.620 --> 02:07:32.220 warrenavery: As well. 952 02:07:33.330 --> 02:07:39.240 Mike Vahl: I wouldn't be opposed just to waiting till spring, see if this thing kind of sort of 953 02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:46.200 Mike Vahl: Dies cells down after hopefully the vaccine starts out there and 954 02:07:47.250 --> 02:07:51.990 Mike Vahl: You know, this thing's gone to another season and just we could just because 955 02:07:53.070 --> 02:07:59.460 Mike Vahl: Being there live is just so much more effective. I mean, the first time I went to. I've seen pictures, five years of 956 02:08:00.690 --> 02:08:04.080 Mike Vahl: reno Valley campus. And the first time I would rather I go, it's totally different. 957 02:08:05.910 --> 02:08:10.950 Mike Vahl: Than so really the live is better than Memorex so 958 02:08:12.660 --> 02:08:22.830 Mike Vahl: I would be I think maybe we could we maybe we can address it at the January meeting or even the April depending on, you know, see where Cove, it is in 90 days. 959 02:08:23.760 --> 02:08:33.330 Mike Vahl: And if you have to kick it another 90 days, I don't think, you know, walk around campus as of April is a bad thing, either because it's not 100 yet hopefully 960 02:08:34.620 --> 02:08:35.280 warrenavery: All right, Miss patty. 961 02:08:35.820 --> 02:08:42.630 Eva Petty: I'm sorry, I have one more question. Um, as Mike was and I do good mike to it's good to be able to 962 02:08:43.740 --> 02:08:45.150 Eva Petty: Bless you. The sun, the same 963 02:08:47.010 --> 02:08:55.350 Eva Petty: Is would that be contingent, it would we be able to get together at in a larger group if it goes down to purple. Is that the only 964 02:08:56.460 --> 02:09:01.710 Eva Petty: Issue or is that if it goes to purple. It could be a limited is a smaller group. 965 02:09:02.520 --> 02:09:05.850 Rebeccah Goldware: Purpose actually more restrictive, it would be no access 966 02:09:07.140 --> 02:09:16.200 Rebeccah Goldware: Read allows us and read allows the county to have a little more flexibility. There's a little businesses are more flexible, you can have 967 02:09:16.500 --> 02:09:24.300 Rebeccah Goldware: Up to X percent inside and things like that. So it allows it allows us at the at the colleges to have a little more flexibility to move people around. 968 02:09:24.630 --> 02:09:38.820 Rebeccah Goldware: They would still all be social distance we still would not likely be going into buildings and you would be mast, we would do protocols that are in place for the district. So all of those would still stay in place and and candidly, regardless of what color, Warren. 969 02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:40.230 Rebeccah Goldware: Thank you. 970 02:09:41.730 --> 02:09:47.910 warrenavery: Is anybody any committee members dying to get out there. Let's just put it that way to go to Mr balls point 971 02:09:48.390 --> 02:09:55.410 warrenavery: Anybody. Maybe that's the wrong terminology. These days, dying to get out there, but is anybody really want to go right now. 972 02:09:56.070 --> 02:10:11.550 warrenavery: Or is everybody good with let's see what happens in January, see where we're at. And then we can put it on. Let's make sure it's on the agenda at our next meeting as well to discuss. Everybody good with that Miss Rizvi. Are you good with that. I know you put that on there. 973 02:10:13.350 --> 02:10:14.280 Fauzia Rizvi: Tony okay with it. 974 02:10:14.640 --> 02:10:16.350 warrenavery: All right, then we will 975 02:10:17.460 --> 02:10:21.510 warrenavery: We will put this on the next agenda to discuss once again. And our next meeting. 976 02:10:23.160 --> 02:10:23.670 warrenavery: All right. 977 02:10:24.990 --> 02:10:31.590 warrenavery: And speaking of that, what I want to segue. Our next on the agenda is the schedule of CBS Evening. 978 02:10:32.610 --> 02:10:42.210 Rebeccah Goldware: So I bring this forward to you all and it has become apparent we have internal conflicts and frankly, half of the staff in this meeting. 979 02:10:42.750 --> 02:11:00.990 Rebeccah Goldware: Are required to be in two different places. And so the other meeting has gone on without us, which is fine and this meeting is the only one that is flexible to move. And if we could shift and even a day so that it could remain. I think we're on the third 980 02:11:02.850 --> 02:11:11.340 Rebeccah Goldware: Thursday of the month. It could be the third Wednesday of the month, and I would not select Tuesday's only because CITY COUNCIL AND COUNTY. 981 02:11:12.030 --> 02:11:23.610 Rebeccah Goldware: Boards meet those days. And some folks like to participate in multiple meetings. And so I bring that question before you all we can move it to the first week of the month, the last week of the month, it's 982 02:11:24.120 --> 02:11:34.770 Rebeccah Goldware: It's this one Thursday in the month is causing some hardship and the time again at three o'clock works for you all, and the meetings have been noted as an hour. 983 02:11:35.070 --> 02:11:49.920 Rebeccah Goldware: I we should have them at 90 minutes. Most of our agenda is have enough regular business that we go past that hour mark. So in the future, we will schedule them for 90 minutes unless we are otherwise from the group. So that's the 984 02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:58.050 Rebeccah Goldware: Idea that I put before you all in terms of moving forward with the schedule in 2021 and adjusting the date. 985 02:12:01.110 --> 02:12:02.280 warrenavery: All right. Does anyone have 986 02:12:02.280 --> 02:12:04.950 warrenavery: Any thoughts for misquote where 987 02:12:05.010 --> 02:12:17.520 warrenavery: Everybody like Thursday's are, I mean, should we, I guess we have two options. We either move to a different Thursday, a different either the second Thursday of the month, or we move to continuing me the third week but 988 02:12:17.700 --> 02:12:20.700 warrenavery: Wednesday. So those are right like already pick any 989 02:12:20.760 --> 02:12:26.340 warrenavery: Not Tuesday. So those are two options, any committee members have any thoughts taco. 990 02:12:26.940 --> 02:12:30.240 Philip Falcone: I would just just prefer if we it just my personal 991 02:12:31.290 --> 02:12:40.770 Philip Falcone: preference is to go to the second Thursday, if it's if it stays on the third Wednesday. I'm going to be available. I have a recurring monthly meeting on the third Wednesday at three o'clock. 992 02:12:41.580 --> 02:12:53.430 warrenavery: Alright, so we have, we want you there fill up. We want you in our meeting. So, all right. So, uh, does anybody opposed to the second you said the second Thursday. Is that what you propose Philip 993 02:12:54.060 --> 02:12:57.660 Philip Falcone: Really, it could be. Honestly, it could be anything besides the third Wednesday, but I 994 02:12:57.840 --> 02:12:59.580 Philip Falcone: Just throw something out there. Yes. 995 02:12:59.640 --> 02:13:01.140 Philip Falcone: The second second Thursday. 996 02:13:01.890 --> 02:13:03.210 Dwight: Wednesday's are hard for 997 02:13:03.210 --> 02:13:06.030 Fauzia Rizvi: Me to because we've grown our council meetings on 998 02:13:07.410 --> 02:13:08.580 Fauzia Rizvi: That day so I 999 02:13:08.580 --> 02:13:10.050 Fauzia Rizvi: Prefer thirsty as well. 1000 02:13:10.080 --> 02:13:11.010 Dwight: Any Thursday. 1001 02:13:11.280 --> 02:13:11.910 Fauzia Rizvi: Is good for me. 1002 02:13:12.390 --> 02:13:13.110 Philip Falcone: Yes, I agree. 1003 02:13:13.590 --> 02:13:16.800 warrenavery: Does anybody opposed to moving our meetings to the second Thursday. 1004 02:13:19.980 --> 02:13:28.530 warrenavery: All right, Miss cold where i think i think you have a consensus among the group that the second Thursday works for everyone and and will change the meetings accordingly. 1005 02:13:29.130 --> 02:13:42.450 Rebeccah Goldware: We'll go ahead and get that scheduled updated and you will see the invites come through from Renee and or the CBC and email. I'm in the next couple of weeks for the bat for the 21 calendar year. Thank you. 1006 02:13:43.500 --> 02:13:44.190 Rebeccah Goldware: Great. 1007 02:13:44.880 --> 02:13:54.150 warrenavery: before we adjourn. Is there anything else that any committee members would like to add to the next agenda any items. 1008 02:13:55.740 --> 02:14:00.540 warrenavery: You'll have your chance beforehand, but this is just a chance now in public to to get that out there. 1009 02:14:01.680 --> 02:14:14.430 warrenavery: The only thing I will put it there is a to discuss the recommendations of the ad hoc bylaws committee to discuss and take action on our recommendations and make that an action item. 1010 02:14:14.940 --> 02:14:21.840 warrenavery: Will bring back recommendations to the committee to then vote. Yay or nay on the on the recommendations that we bring 1011 02:14:24.390 --> 02:14:37.560 warrenavery: All right, so, and like I said, you'll have a chance to add anything else. Seeing no other everyone. Thank you for your time and your service today. Have a great. Have a great night. Thank you. Meeting injured. 1012 02:14:38.190 --> 02:14:38.610 Patricia: Thank you. 1013 02:14:38.760 --> 02:14:42.420 Eva Petty: Thank you. Thank you, Lauren for accepting the nomination. 1014 02:14:44.850 --> 02:14:46.200 Eva Petty: See you guys next time.